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Possible destinations and trades for our vet.

I think the Sixers make alot of sense for JR and/or Korver. Furkan Korkmaz and/or second round picks as returning assets for them. Bayless as the expiring to match salary.

JR to Houston for Brandon Knight and Marquese Chriss. Houston needs more shooters and they have declined Chriss's 4th year option. Brandon Knight is coming off ACL surgery and I don't think Houston can wait for him to get healthy. Cavs buy on Knight low and maybe move him in the 2019-2020 season.

George Hill is a tricky one for me, I think we have to wait for an injury. I was hoping the Suns would come out playing alittle better and wanted a PG to take them to the next level. I don't think they waste assets in bring one in this year.

TT is extremely hard to move. Evan Turner has a equally bad contract but is playing alright for the Blazers right now. I'm not sure they would move him for TT.
 
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George Hill is a tricky one for me, I think we have to wait for an injury. I was hoping the Suns would come out playing alittle better and wanted a PG to take them to the next level. I don't think they waste assets in bring one in this year.
Suns reportedly interested in Scary Terry.. maybe the Cavs could offer consolation prize George Hill.

I would think you need to include Warren in that deal and I guess Bender?

Suns NEED, NEED, NEED vets to put around Booker, Ayton and Bridges. You can't develop everyone. The sooner they can add vets, the sooner those guys make big time leaps from already high places.
 

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Suns reportedly interested in Scary Terry.. maybe the Cavs could offer consolation prize George Hill.

I would think you need to include Warren in that deal and I guess Bender?

Suns NEED, NEED, NEED vets to put around Booker, Ayton and Bridges. You can't develop everyone. The sooner they can add vets, the sooner those guys make big time leaps from already high places.
I'm not sure how much they value TJ Warren. I think Warren is good value back for Hill. I actually think they bought out Tyson Chandler too early, he could have included in a deal for Hill.

I wouldn't mind Bender since they didn't pick up his option, they clearly don't see him as part of their future. Since he was a higher pick, we could resign him up to the 5.8 million he was going to make and that makes it easier chance to resign him vs a guy like Furkan Korkmaz who we could only resign for alittle over 2 million if we traded for him.

Trading Hill would open us up to trade Korver for Delly and a draft pick which I think would be very good for the team.
 

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Just wanted to share this with you guys.. Stay competitive while tanking and develop Sexton and Jedi. I think they should play in the backcourt together. and Hood should go to the bench. All those guys are streaky. TJ Warren is a scoring machine and can take much pressure off Collin and Cedi while Anderson bombs away and TT controls the paint. JR is not going anywhere so we may as well play him off the bench with two other shooters an athletic pf and a true center. Pick and roll with LNjr and JC, with Z inside and JR and Hood on the wings is pretty solid if coached correctly.

pg. C.Sexton/J.Clarkson
sg. C.Osman/JR.Smith
sf. TJ.Warren/R.Hood
pf. R.Anderson/L.Nance JR.
c. T.Thompson/A.Zizic/C.Frye
 

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Possible destinations and trades for our vet.

I think the Sixers make alot of sense for JR and/or Korver. Furkan Korkmaz and/or second round picks as returning assets for them. Bayless as the expiring to match salary.

JR to Houston for Brandon Knight and Marquese Chriss. Houston needs more shooters and they have declined Chriss's 4th year option. Brandon Knight is coming off ACL surgery and I don't think Houston can wait for him to get healthy. Cavs buy on Knight low and maybe move him in the 2019-2020 season.

George Hill is a tricky one for me, I think we have to wait for an injury. I was hoping the Suns would come out playing alittle better and wanted a PG to take them to the next level. I don't think they waste assets in bring one in this year.

TT is extremely hard to move. Evan Turner has a equally bad contract but is playing alright for the Blazers right now. I'm not sure they would move him for TT.
Bayless was sent out in the Butler trade. Mike Muscala is the big contract that can come back unless Philly gives up on Fultz and we want his broken shot.

Korkmaz had his option declined so there aren't any real benefits to getting him in this way. The Cavs could give him a raise based on his current salary or pay him out of the MLE. Basically they can pursue him as a free agent if they desire.

The Cavs want first round value for Korver - so they expect a late first rounder from a team competing for a playoff spot. From the Sixers they'd want that or possibly Zhaire Smith.
 

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Just wanted to share this with you guys.. Stay competitive while tanking and develop Sexton and Jedi. I think they should play in the backcourt together. and Hood should go to the bench. All those guys are streaky. TJ Warren is a scoring machine and can take much pressure off Collin and Cedi while Anderson bombs away and TT controls the paint. JR is not going anywhere so we may as well play him off the bench with two other shooters an athletic pf and a true center. Pick and roll with LNjr and JC, with Z inside and JR and Hood on the wings is pretty solid if coached correctly.

pg. C.Sexton/J.Clarkson
sg. C.Osman/JR.Smith
sf. TJ.Warren/R.Hood
pf. R.Anderson/L.Nance JR.
c. T.Thompson/A.Zizic/C.Frye
Where's Kevin Love?
 

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The more I think about it, the more I think the Delly for Korver trade makes WAY too much sense for both teams.

Kyle Korver

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Delly + a 1st round pick


Why in the world would any team say no? Saves MIL $2+ million a year for the next 2 years, not to mention more money from what they'd pay a rookie on a rookie contract.

Cavs get Delly back who Milwaukee clearly wants to rid themselves of and the Cavs get what they really want - another 1st rounder.
 

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The more I think about it, the more I think the Delly for Korver trade makes WAY too much sense for both teams.

Kyle Korver

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Delly + a 1st round pick


Why in the world would any team say no? Saves MIL $2+ million a year for the next 2 years, not to mention more money from what they'd pay a rookie on a rookie contract.

Cavs get Delly back who Milwaukee clearly wants to rid themselves of and the Cavs get what they really want - another 1st rounder.
It does make sense but the Bucks have alot of protections on their 1st round picks for the next couple years. They likely won't convey their pick to the Suns this year because of it's 1-3 protected and 17-30. It's most likely will convey next year because it's 1-7 protected. So by the Stepien rule we wouldn't be able to get their pick till 2022 unless they can get a first round pick from another team before getting Korver.

Are there any interesting young players the Bucks would give up? I thought George Hill for Delly and Thon Maker could make sense.
 

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It does make sense but the Bucks have alot of protections on their 1st round picks for the next couple years. They likely won't convey their pick to the Suns this year because of it's 1-3 protected and 17-30. It's most likely will convey next year because it's 1-7 protected. So by the Stepien rule we wouldn't be able to get their pick till 2022 unless they can get a first round pick from another team before getting Korver.

Are there any interesting young players the Bucks would give up? I thought George Hill for Delly and Thon Maker could make sense.
I'd say their two most "interesting" young pieces are Thon Maker and DiVincenzo. I could see Maker being expendable, but he's not exactly an exciting prospect if you ask me. I highly doubt they'll make DiVincenzo available considering he was their 1st round pick just last year and has played fine for them.

I would do something like:

Cavs get: 2022 1st round pick, Delly, Maker, and DiVincenzo

Bucks get: 2022 2nd rounder, Hill, Korver


However the salaries definitely wouldn't match up and therefore a 3rd team would have to be added and who knows what would happen then.




Milwaukee rotation would be:

PG - Hill, Brogdon,
SG - Bledsoe, Korver, Connaughton
SF - Middleton, Snell
PF - Giannis, Ilyasova
C - Lopez, Henson

Pretty solid team there with plenty of shooting ability.
 

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I wish this wizards disfunction didn't start happening until Love was trade eligible. Beal for Love could be a possible trade if the wizards wanted to try to keep winning and not go into a rebuild.
 

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I'd say their two most "interesting" young pieces are Thon Maker and DiVincenzo. I could see Maker being expendable, but he's not exactly an exciting prospect if you ask me. I highly doubt they'll make DiVincenzo available considering he was their 1st round pick just last year and has played fine for them.

I would do something like:

Cavs get: 2022 1st round pick, Delly, Maker, and DiVincenzo

Bucks get: 2022 2nd rounder, Hill, Korver


However the salaries definitely wouldn't match up and therefore a 3rd team would have to be added and who knows what would happen then.




Milwaukee rotation would be:

PG - Hill, Brogdon,
SG - Bledsoe, Korver, Connaughton
SF - Middleton, Snell
PF - Giannis, Ilyasova
C - Lopez, Henson

Pretty solid team there with plenty of shooting ability.
If you add Tony Snell the salaries match but like you said they aren't going to give up DiVincenzo, Sterling Brown or DJ Wilson though would make more sense. Keeps them virtually even cap wise next year and gives them insurance with Hill in case Bledsoe or Middleton bolt

Hard to say they would entertain trading Maker though after Henson's injury
 

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Philly would be a nice landing spotting for Hill,,they need a vet guard to go with the rest of the talent they have. Fultz aint gonna cut it this year if they
want to make noise in the playoffs. A trade of Hill and Korver for Fultz (you could route him elsewhere say Phoenix.) then Philly could ride Hill this year and use his expiring next year to bring in another experienced free agent point guard. Hill and Korver for Fultz and Chandler would probably be close salary wise...they could throw in another body if they had to. I don't know how much value Philly has on Fultz at this time but he doesn't fit ,,they need to move on from him,,,whether the cavs offer would be good enough is the question.
 

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Philly would be a nice landing spotting for Hill,,they need a vet guard to go with the rest of the talent they have. Fultz aint gonna cut it this year if they
want to make noise in the playoffs. A trade of Hill and Korver for Fultz (you could route him elsewhere say Phoenix.) then Philly could ride Hill this year and use his expiring next year to bring in another experienced free agent point guard. Hill and Korver for Fultz and Chandler would probably be close salary wise...they could throw in another body if they had to. I don't know how much value Philly has on Fultz at this time but he doesn't fit ,,they need to move on from him,,,whether the cavs offer would be good enough is the question.
It's so hard to gauge what Fultz trade value is. Ive watched sixers games but never bother to take notice of what Fultz was doing. It doesn't help he is going to see a specialist for his shoulder and wrist now.

I think Hill and Korver fit what they are doing cap wise and giving them shooters for this season. It will allow them to go after a max player and keep Korver next year. If they get the max player they can go resign Hill to the MLE.

Question is if they will want to move Wilson Chandler who has been playing heavy minutes since they traded for Butler.
 
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Philly would be a nice landing spotting for Hill,,they need a vet guard to go with the rest of the talent they have. Fultz aint gonna cut it this year if they
want to make noise in the playoffs. A trade of Hill and Korver for Fultz (you could route him elsewhere say Phoenix.) then Philly could ride Hill this year and use his expiring next year to bring in another experienced free agent point guard. Hill and Korver for Fultz and Chandler would probably be close salary wise...they could throw in another body if they had to. I don't know how much value Philly has on Fultz at this time but he doesn't fit ,,they need to move on from him,,,whether the cavs offer would be good enough is the question.
The more I think about it, we should be in discussions to get Fultz if the sixers try to move him. His value can't be that high and we have win now pieces to give them. Korver and their pick of Hill or Clarkson will help them alot.

I don't think a Sexton and Fultz pairing would be anywhere close to as bad the Clarkson and Sexton pairing we currently have. I think both could play 10-12 minutes a game with each other. Fultz seems like a better natural assist guy than Sexton. His per 36 assists for last season was 7.5. At 6'4 he can play SG for stretches.
 

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The more I think about it, we should be in discussions to get Fultz if the sixers try to move him. His value can't be that high and we have win now pieces to give them. Korver and their pick of Hill or Clarkson will help them alot.

I don't think a Sexton and Fultz pairing would be anywhere close to as bad the Clarkson and Sexton pairing we currently have. I think both could play 10-12 minutes a game with each other. Fultz seems like a better natural assist guy than Sexton. His per 36 assists for last season was 7.5. At 6'4 he can play SG for stretches.
I would not make any moves without waiting for a doctors report first. Good knows what is wrong with his shoulders. We already met our quota of injured players in our squad.
 

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