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Kyle Anderson putting up crazy stats
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I wonder how much his slowness affects him at the next level? College guys can chase him from behind and poke out the ball, and can give him some trouble with pressure. What will a guy like avery bradley do to him? Although he is 6'7 and can see over the pesky pressure guards it's been somewhat of a problem.
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maybe he'll come into the league and play like old man Andre Miller from the start. He'll definitely be interesting to follow as he tries to make the jump
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[INDENT]UCLA's Kyle Anderson is in the PAC-12's top ten in scoring, rebounding, assists (6.4 - 1st) and steals. "Slo-Mo" really knows how to play.
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I have no particular fascination with this guy other than his stat line, but thought I would check back in and see where he is...
Despite an absolutely horrible game recently against Oregon, he is still looking pretty strong...
15.4 pts/8.7 rbs/6.8 assts/1.6 steals on 50% shooting (53% from 3) in 33 mpg. Also 3.2 TOs, which sounds bad until you compare him to another recent stat sheet stuffer that I just thought of....Evan Turner, who averaged 4.4 TOs his final year at OSU. Here is Turner's stat line for comps:
20/9/6/1.7 steals on 52% shooting (36% from 3) in 36 mpg.
So actually I think Turner is a decent comparison...a playmaking forward with good balls skills, limited athleticism, who can really rebound. Turner has shown these skills in the NBA; he's just not done them efficiently enough to be a good player. Most problematic, he has never improved his shooting. Anderson's 3 point shooting numbers, which are based on a relatively small sample size, perhaps augur well for him in comparison to Turner. He just needs to show he can maintain a high percentage while shooting more.
Anderson is up to #27 on DX (he was #40 a month ago).
Despite an absolutely horrible game recently against Oregon, he is still looking pretty strong...
15.4 pts/8.7 rbs/6.8 assts/1.6 steals on 50% shooting (53% from 3) in 33 mpg. Also 3.2 TOs, which sounds bad until you compare him to another recent stat sheet stuffer that I just thought of....Evan Turner, who averaged 4.4 TOs his final year at OSU. Here is Turner's stat line for comps:
20/9/6/1.7 steals on 52% shooting (36% from 3) in 36 mpg.
So actually I think Turner is a decent comparison...a playmaking forward with good balls skills, limited athleticism, who can really rebound. Turner has shown these skills in the NBA; he's just not done them efficiently enough to be a good player. Most problematic, he has never improved his shooting. Anderson's 3 point shooting numbers, which are based on a relatively small sample size, perhaps augur well for him in comparison to Turner. He just needs to show he can maintain a high percentage while shooting more.
Anderson is up to #27 on DX (he was #40 a month ago).
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I don't think he'll be drafted in the top-10 either way. I LOVE his game - he's talented as hell and has as high of an IQ as anyone - but his body won't allow him to be anything special at the next level. Not someone you gamble a top-10 pick on; in this draft, you're hoping for a potential star in that range.
Anderson is a point-forward in a 40 year old's body. He could probably initiate offense at a NBA-PG level through passing, but he will not be much of a creator off the dribble. I don't see him being a lights-out 3PT shooter at the next level, nor an elite rebounder alongside the hyperathletic trees in the NBA.
Defense is going to be his biggest problem, once again due to his athleticism. I honestly don't think he'll ever be able to consistently play starers minutes at the next level because of it. Who does he guard? He's got some size but not enough to prevent a mauling from the league's big men. Asking him to guard SF's would essentially be opting to play 4v5.
Not to be a downer as again I like Anderson as a player, but not with our 1st. He's not nearly that level of prospect.
Anderson is a point-forward in a 40 year old's body. He could probably initiate offense at a NBA-PG level through passing, but he will not be much of a creator off the dribble. I don't see him being a lights-out 3PT shooter at the next level, nor an elite rebounder alongside the hyperathletic trees in the NBA.
Defense is going to be his biggest problem, once again due to his athleticism. I honestly don't think he'll ever be able to consistently play starers minutes at the next level because of it. Who does he guard? He's got some size but not enough to prevent a mauling from the league's big men. Asking him to guard SF's would essentially be opting to play 4v5.
Not to be a downer as again I like Anderson as a player, but not with our 1st. He's not nearly that level of prospect.
He's certainly slow for a point guard, but for his size he's a pretty decent athlete. A year ago he measured (in terms of height, weight, wingspan, and reach) about the same size as Tristan did at the combine. He's far bigger than any point or shooting guard in DX's database, and he's as big as any SF not named Kevin Durant. Pretty much any player his size will look slow trying to play PG.
As for his rebounding, he has the highest rebound rate on his team, and in fact has a higher rebound rate than Tristan did in college. He just had a game-high 15 boards against Arizona...Aaron Gordon had the second most with 8. There are many players in the NBA who prove to be above-average rebounders in spite of mediocre athleticism, and I have little doubt he will be one of them.
He's definitely a tweener between the 3 and the 4 defensively. I haven't watched enough film of him to get a feel for how he would fare against SFs (again, he's obviously slow for a PG, but how slow is he by SF standards?). He would have the size advantage pretty much every night; it's just a question of if he's quick enough laterally to be more than a big traffic cone. He certainly has adequate size and quickness to defend PFs, but he would have to pack on a bit of muscle.
Overall, I guess I'll say I think his athleticism problems are overblown. People say UCLA "hides" him on defense because he's not guarding point guards, but really that's an unrealistic standard for a guy his size. And he makes enough athletic plays (like this dunk the other day, sorry for the shitty footage) on both ends of the court that I think he can overcome his limitations.
As for his rebounding, he has the highest rebound rate on his team, and in fact has a higher rebound rate than Tristan did in college. He just had a game-high 15 boards against Arizona...Aaron Gordon had the second most with 8. There are many players in the NBA who prove to be above-average rebounders in spite of mediocre athleticism, and I have little doubt he will be one of them.
He's definitely a tweener between the 3 and the 4 defensively. I haven't watched enough film of him to get a feel for how he would fare against SFs (again, he's obviously slow for a PG, but how slow is he by SF standards?). He would have the size advantage pretty much every night; it's just a question of if he's quick enough laterally to be more than a big traffic cone. He certainly has adequate size and quickness to defend PFs, but he would have to pack on a bit of muscle.
Overall, I guess I'll say I think his athleticism problems are overblown. People say UCLA "hides" him on defense because he's not guarding point guards, but really that's an unrealistic standard for a guy his size. And he makes enough athletic plays (like this dunk the other day, sorry for the shitty footage) on both ends of the court that I think he can overcome his limitations.
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Could seem him going in the lotto if he has a strong showing in the tourney and puts his athleticism ?s to rest at the combine and in private workouts. For the Cavs sake though, hope we stay far away from him.
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Don't forget he has a 9' standing reach. He has rashard Lewis or tayshaun prince length to go with a great knack for rebounding, and he smothers small forwards. He has a lot of skills for a lot of positions. He transcends labels. He's a basketball player. I think his best position is going to be the 4. Give him a post center like Jefferson and I think he'll have a great impact.
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I think college forwards who like to play with the ball in their hands often have trouble being efficient enough to be good players in the NBA. They have to adjust their game in response to stronger defenses in the NBA in order not to be a turnover machine. Plus they really have to be better ball distributors and passers than the guards on their team to justify running the offense through them. This is tough, especially in a league with a lot of good young point guards.
Anderson is faced with the additional question of what position he will defend.
However, if he is able to survive defensively, and his offensive game translates well enough to stay on the court, he will very likely rebound in the NBA. Rebounding has very little to do with athleticism. It's a skill, and some players can do it well and some cannot. Anderson clearly can. From what I have seen of UCLA this year (someone correct me if I am wrong), but he doesn't pad his rebounding numbers by being in the rebounding lane (that is, the spaces adjacent to the basket) during opponent's foul shots.
Anderson is faced with the additional question of what position he will defend.
However, if he is able to survive defensively, and his offensive game translates well enough to stay on the court, he will very likely rebound in the NBA. Rebounding has very little to do with athleticism. It's a skill, and some players can do it well and some cannot. Anderson clearly can. From what I have seen of UCLA this year (someone correct me if I am wrong), but he doesn't pad his rebounding numbers by being in the rebounding lane (that is, the spaces adjacent to the basket) during opponent's foul shots.
I don't necessarily envision him as a bring-the-ball-up-the-court point guard in the NBA. Quick wing defenders will pester him to no end and make it difficult for him to get comfortable on offense (think about when Durant tried to play PG in the playoffs last year and just got wrecked by Tony Allen). I see him taking on a Nic Batum kind of role, except that he's significantly bigger than Batum, and probably a better facilitator than Batum as well. Some example Nic Batum plays from the Blazers' last game:
Knifes a pass between two defenders to Robin Lopez, who finishes with the dunk:
Whips a pass cross court to Dorell Wright, who drains the 3:
Finds Lillard cutting to the basket, Lillard catches and lays it in:
Batum could probably average a couple more assists if you make him initiate the offense on every play, but that would defeat the point. What's so deadly about him is that he allows the Blazers to put two great facilitators on the court at the same time. The result is a more diverse and unpredictable offense that can keep the defense on its heels and generate a lot of high-percentage looks.
Knifes a pass between two defenders to Robin Lopez, who finishes with the dunk:
Whips a pass cross court to Dorell Wright, who drains the 3:
Finds Lillard cutting to the basket, Lillard catches and lays it in:
Batum could probably average a couple more assists if you make him initiate the offense on every play, but that would defeat the point. What's so deadly about him is that he allows the Blazers to put two great facilitators on the court at the same time. The result is a more diverse and unpredictable offense that can keep the defense on its heels and generate a lot of high-percentage looks.