Matthew Dellavedova

[abrahavt]

Delly played pretty good tonight. Yeah, he missed some open 3's, but each time he did he grabbed the offensive rebound keeping the possession alive. He also finally started to shut down Schroeder at the end of the 3rd. In fact, when the Hawks went on their run, Delly was about the only one effective at stopping his man.

If you compare how Delly played versus how Schroeder played there is no comparison. Delly was just running around like a madman while Schroeder was actually scoring basket. We cannot afford to have a person that cannot score in the playoffs. Find another PG. Nate Robinson is available and would be an upgrade.

 

[DionWaters]

Delladova is as useless to this team as the "ve" in his last name

 

[NeilR]

Cavs Win By Over 30 - RCF Furious

By Randolph Keys 8:01 PST

CLEVELAND - Matthew Dellavadova has the audacity to fit in during the Cavaliers blowout over the Boston Celtics. Read more in the cranky asshole blog tomorrow morning...

We should have this as a clickable response, just a fill in the blank spot for opposing team

 

[priceFTW]

We all know that Delly can't create offense and can have a difficult time keeping guards in front of him, but he does have particular strengths and those strengths keep earning him playing time (in addition to necessity).

Defending the three

Defending against the three pointer: Opponents are shooting 29.2% from three against him, 4.5% LOWER than what they normally shoot, and overall 1.2% lower from all over the court. For comparison, here are what other players' numbers against the three look like:

Roberson: 26.8% allowed, 9.2% lower than average compared to what those shooters he's faced normally shoot
MCW: 29.3% allowed, 6.4% lower than average
T. Allen: 30.3% allowed, 4.8% lower than average
Delly: 29.2% allowed, 4.5% lower than average
Middleton: 31.6% allowed, 4.0% lower than average
Bradley: 32.5% allowed, 2.9% lower than average
Beverley: 33.1% allowed, 2.0% lower than average
Kyrie: 34.3% allowed, .9% lower than average
Bledsoe: 34.6% allowed, .5% lower than average
Iggy: 34.6% allowed, .4% lower than average
D. Green: 35.6% allowed, .3% lower than average
Wall: 34.8% allowed, .4% higher than average
Rubio: 36.8% allowed, .5% higher than average
Rondo: 35% allowed, .8% higher than average
Dion: 36.7% allowed, 1.2% higher than average (though he's very good at defending the mid-range, 15-22ft)
Kwahi: 37.9% allowed, 2.9% higher than average
J. Nelson: 39% allowed, 4.5% higher than average (overall FG% defense is 2.4% higher than average allowed)

Rebounding

With Delly off the court, the Cavs' defensive rebounding % is 73%, good for 25th in the league.
With Delly on the court, the Cavs' defensive rebounding % is 76.7%, good for 5th in the league.

With Delly off the court, the Cavs' offensive rebounding % is 26.6%, good for 10th in the league.
With Delly on the court, the Cavs' offensive rebounding % is 28.4%, good for 2nd in the league.

With Delly off the court, the Cavs' total rebounding % is 50.7%, good for 9th in the league.
With Delly on the court, the Cavs' total rebounding % is 51.7%%, good for 4th in the league.

He does a really good job of getting a body on guards so that they don't get long rebounds, something I wish Kyrie (and when Dion was here) did more often. Our defensive rebounding numbers have been poor all year long and with a better effort from our perimeter guys and from KLove, our defensive numbers in the playoffs could be really, really stout. Last year, with Delly on court, the Cavs' total rebounding was the best in the NBA, 2nd best defensively and 2nd best offensively. With him off the court, it was 6th defensively and 16th offensive.

To sum up, with the right players around him (i.e., James), he does his job and is a positive for us. He's not someone who is going to take over any game and we all wish he could create something offensively, but he doesn't deserve all the blame that he gets. Earlier in this thread I posted his numbers in 5 man lineups. Here's some numbers from 4 man lineups and one 5 man lineup, the best 5 man lineup in the NBA right now (yes, only 34 minutes, but used against 4-5 different teams).

M. Dellavedova | L. James | T. Mozgov | I. Shumpert | T. Thompson: +49 per 100 possessions, 34 minutes played.

With this lineup, we are making 15 more shots than the opponent per 100 possessions, shooting 15% better, shooting 25% better from three, grabbing 13% more offensive rebounds and 13% more defensive rebounds. Delly is a part of that.

M. Dellavedova | K. Irving | L. James | K. Love: +24.8 per 100, 68 total minutes played.
M. Dellavedova | L. James | I. Shumpert | T. Thompson: +24.3 per 100, 122 total minutes played.
M. Dellavedova | L. James | K. Love | T. Thompson: +15.6 per 100, 196 total minutes played
M. Dellavedova | K. Irving | L. James | T. Thompson: +12.9 per 100, 81 total minutes played
M. Dellavedova | L. James | S. Marion | T. Thompson: +6.6 per 100, 82 total minutes played
M. Dellavedova | K. Irving | K. Love | T. Thompson: +.2 per 100, 157 total minutes played
M. Dellavedova | K. Irving | M. Miller | T. Thompson: -5.6 per 100, 76 total minutes played

 

[PedroFlu]

If you go numbers, he gets 2 rebounds a game in 20 minutes. 4.4 pgs, 0.34 FG. This is very poor. When you dig lineups and etc, of course you can find some positive stuff. But numbers wise it's bad.

Eye test is also bad.

In the league you have:

Schroder
Devin Harris/Barea
Bayless
Patty Mills/Cory Joseph
Mo Williams
Beno Udrih
Jarrett Jack
Marcus Smart/Isiah Thomas
Lin
Sessions
Livingston
Chalmers
Norris Cole
DJ Augustin
Aaron Brooks
CJ Watson
Greivis Vasquez
Prigioni
Zach LaVine


Look, this is the general level of average NBA backup PGs.

Delly is not on this level. He is a 3rd string PG, and should not be playing 20 min a game.

It's not his fault though. This is on Blatt and Griffin, who didn't manage to get a backup PG. We don't really have one now, and this takes a toll on the team.

Currently Cavs have 7 good rotation players. It's thin, they are on the limit. If one of the starters get injured, they can kiss championship hopes goodbye. They are on the limit, depth wise. Blatt will have to address this next season, and it will probably be the last opportunity for it before this roster is completely locked down for several years.

 

[thunder_down_under]

If you go numbers, he gets 2 rebounds a game in 20 minutes. 4.4 pgs, 0.34 FG. This is very poor. When you dig lineups and etc, of course you can find some positive stuff. But numbers wise it's bad.

Eye test is also bad.

In the league you have:

Schroder
Devin Harris/Barea
Bayless
Patty Mills/Cory Joseph
Mo Williams
Beno Udrih
Jarrett Jack
Marcus Smart/Isiah Thomas
Lin
Sessions
Livingston
Chalmers
Norris Cole
DJ Augustin
Aaron Brooks
CJ Watson
Greivis Vasquez
Prigioni
Zach LaVine


Look, this is the general level of average NBA backup PGs.

Delly is not on this level. He is a 3rd string PG, and should not be playing 20 min a game.

It's not his fault though. This is on Blatt and Griffin, who didn't manage to get a backup PG. We don't really have one now, and this takes a toll on the team.

Currently Cavs have 7 good rotation players. It's thin, they are on the limit. If one of the starters get injured, they can kiss championship hopes goodbye. They are on the limit, depth wise. Blatt will have to address this next season, and it will probably be the last opportunity for it before this roster is completely locked down for several years.

You get given all the numbers that prove otherwise but still come out with negative fluff about what is expected from a back up PG...the only number where is struggles is points...he is about 2points shy of where you would want him ( about 7 points per game would be acceptable), his rebounding is ok compared to others; his 3point shooting is better than many, his assists to turnovers is more than acceptable and as the analysis above shows, he makes his teammates and the team better when he is on the court...and he is only a second year player on a team which is basically new compared to his first year...
There is no doubt that he and we struggle when he plays extended minutes, but only when he plays extended minutes without Bron or Kyrie on court...his first half against the Suns with Bron on court was a very good half of ball...when he is paying with the bench there is an issue, but that is as much him as the other players...not sure him at 9 is the issue

 

[DionWaters]

he makes his teammates and the team better when he is on the court

I don't care what bullshit numbers you pull up, this is absolutely not true

You guys lack any critical thinking skills and fail to see past numbers. It's not hard to see delladova has literally no basketball skills.

 

[Jscc]

Eye test is also bad.

I don't care what bullshit numbers you pull up, this is absolutely not true [...].

Come on guys. This is CavFanatic stuff.

 

[TitleTown]

I don't care what bullshit numbers you pull up, this is absolutely not true

You guys lack any critical thinking skills and fail to see past numbers. It's not hard to see delladova has literally no basketball skills.

Did you just use "critical thinking skills" and "fail to see past the numbers" as if they're synonymous?

If all you care about is the "seeing" part, then you are not talking about critical thinking at all. Your name says it all, DionWaiters.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Remember when Delly proved to be a better fit for this team than Dion, and then started over him? That was awesome.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

The Cave should be able to find a pretty solid young PG in the draft. The NCAA is crawling with them nowadays with the way the rules have changed the game. There wasn't a single move to be made where the Cave could have realistically gotten a Schroeder-level backup PG. Dellavedova is a good fit for what were trying to do and he plays with a lot of heart. Some of the people in this thread seem to think there were better options available and would have rather us gotten some washed up scrub like Nate Robinson or Jameer Nelson which would have also likely cost us either an asset in a trade or cutting Joe Harris. At the end of the day, backup PGs matter way less in the playoffs. Delly just needs to make threes and he will be as useful as any PG we could get. You guys act like a backup floor general would actually make a different when between LBJ and Kyrie we even have a hard time getting Love enough touches. If Delly shoots 40% from three in the playoffs were maximizing our backup PG contributions as it stands with THIS ROSTER, and that's a fact.

 

[Ohio]

The backup PG market died with Mo being traded to Charlotte. Delly is better than all of the rest of the rumored targets by a large margin.

 

[Cayman13]

The Cave should be able to find a pretty solid young PG in the draft. The NCAA is crawling with them nowadays with the way the rules have changed the game. There wasn't a single move to be made where the Cave could have realistically gotten a Schroeder-level backup PG. Dellavedova is a good fit for what were trying to do and he plays with a lot of heart. Some of the people in this thread seem to think there were better options available and would have rather us gotten some washed up scrub like Nate Robinson or Jameer Nelson which would have also likely cost us either an asset in a trade or cutting Joe Harris. At the end of the day, backup PGs matter way less in the playoffs. Delly just needs to make threes and he will be as useful as any PG we could get. You guys act like a backup floor general would actually make a different when between LBJ and Kyrie we even have a hard time getting Love enough touches. If Delly shoots 40% from three in the playoffs were maximizing our backup PG contributions as it stands with THIS ROSTER, and that's a fact.

Fair enough post. I am not a fan personally, and for one major reason: he shoots too much. He should not be coming in the game and shooting floaters, one legged push shots, and driving to the basket, unless it's for a kick out. My personal opinion. Wide open 3's once in awhile, okay. But he shoots way too much for the caliber player he is. If I were him, I'd concentrate on distributing and getting the actual offensive threats some good looks.

 

[mhi]

Fair enough post. I am not a fan personally, and for one major reason: he shoots too much. He should not be coming in the game and shooting floaters, one legged push shots, and driving to the basket, unless it's for a kick out. My personal opinion. Wide open 3's once in awhile, okay. But he shoots way too much for the caliber player he is. If I were him, I'd concentrate on distributing and getting the actual offensive threats some good looks.

That's because half the teams don't guard him. It's funny actually because recently, the smart teams have started running him off the 3pt line (which teams will do to you in playoffs regardless of who you are, aka they're gonna make full rotations) and that's why you're seeing these floaters and push shots.

Count me in as one of the guys who would prefer we draft a PG, but I don't necessarily trust our scouting to get a solid player there. And with Griffin, I think he just trades for one.

 

[NeilR]

Faso I wonder how long we have to wait until we get the braying horde posting comments about 'how bad was Delly' etc?