Morris Claiborne Vs. Trent Richardson: pick a side

[Damage]

The best defense in the NFL (49ers) didn't draft either of their starting corners last year[/B]. How many first round corners have the Steelers drafted?

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? The past 30 Super Bowl teams didn't draft a Punter, therefore don't draft a punter. You're using ruhtard retard logic - 2 completely independent items. Your fuzzy logic doesn't work this time, buddy. Maybe it works for KScott

And I'm basing it off of common fucking sense. Besides QB, name a more difficult position. Just because a team didn't draft a CB doesn't mean it isn't the most difficult position to play, lol. What are you even talking about?


Ohh, 1 more point: I am willing to bet that if the 49ers or the Steelers (nice random teams you picked, btw) did have Joe Haden & Morris Claiborne, they would be pretty fucking happy. (And for the record, Carlos Rodgers was a 1st round pick).

To put it more simply: I'm sure because the Jets drafted Revis it means their Super Bowl chances are now over. That's what you're implying...& that idiot KScott agreed with you. Good luck with that.

 

[Silky Smooth]

This is so tough for me. On one end if we draft Claiborne we would have 2 great corners and our pass defense would be great for years to come. If we take Trent we can have a face to our franchise and a player that defenses actually have to game plan for. He also would help our defense which is another thing to think about.

 

[DJTJ]

Does anyone actually put faith into sports science? They thought Maybin was going to be an absolute force.

 

[Damage]

Does anyone actually put faith into sports science? They thought Maybin was going to be an absolute force.

Lol, they're the worst.

"Data reveals that each hand exerts 10 lobs of force. Just a few more pounds of force than it takes....(dramatic pause)...to break an egg."

The fuck?

 

[Soda]

Sports Science is entertainment. We all pay attention to sports more than the average person and can see through the crap. The 40 something year old dudes who are fair-weather fans think it is cool.

 

[cdt]

Lol, they're the worst.

"Data reveals that each hand exerts 10 lobs of force. Just a few more pounds of force than it takes....(dramatic pause)...to break an egg."

The fuck?

I remember one I beleive where they said Chad Johnson had with height, reach, and jumping ability could cover more ground than any other NFL receiver. I think he's yet to have a decent season.

I won't be mad with either pick, Trent would be fun, Mo might be smarter. (The smarter pick :chuckles

 

[Damage]

I remember one I beleive where they said Chad Johnson had with height, reach, and jumping ability could cover more ground than any other NFL receiver. I think he's yet to have a decent season.

I won't be mad with either pick, Trent would be fun, Mo might be smarter. (The smarter pick :chuckles

The funniest one was Joe Haden's. Said he could jump from the 3 point line and get rim or some shit, lol.

 

[AZ_]

Are you basing this on anything or just pulling it out of your ass? The best defense in the NFL (49ers) didn't draft either of their starting corners last year. How many first round corners have the Steelers drafted?

Yeah, it was the Steelers selection of a running back which triggered their years of success.....oh wait....

Seriously, I want TRich and all....but this logic is retarded.

 

[Damage]

Yeah, it was the Steelers selection of a running back which triggered their years of success.....oh wait....

Seriously, I want TRich and all....but this logic is retarded.

It's insane. It's making this assumption:

The Steelers & 49ers have 2 of the best defenses in the NFL. Neither the Steelers nor the 49ers drafted a CB. Therefore, the CB position doesn't matter.

And I want to point out, again, that KScott thanked this post. Both posters should be tarred and feathered.

 

[SalvadoranCavsfan]

I'm from Columbus and I went to my first Browns game last season. It was the epic 6-3 win over Seattle. I still enjoyed myself, but is it too much to ask for a good player on offense?

 

[ohiorulez]

Trent Richardson could possibly have a HOF career. You dont pass that up. Oh and we could use some offense lol... Also I feel like we could find good/decent corners in the late-ish rounds (3-6) We do not necessarily need a top 10 corner, we already have one, we need a good #2 corner.

 

[Steve_424]

Does having a great defense do anything if you have zero big playmakers on offense? Monterio Hardesty, Greg Little, Mohamed Massaquoi. and Josh Cribbs - those are our current "playmakers". I'm not going to be upset if they take Claiborne, but a great defense won't equate to wins if the Browns still can't score points.

I've seen numerous reports on Trent Richardson that say he is as good as Adrian Peterson. He's a perfect fit for the West Coast Offense. He'd take a great amount of pressure off of McCoy. He's the best choice for the Cleveland Browns. As long as we come away with him, Claiborne, or Blackmon, I'll be happy...but I want Trent in Brown and Orange.

 

[Steve_424]

Gregg Doyel makes a pretty strong case for Richardson here.

Running backs aren't worth a top-five pick? Trent Richardson is

By Gregg Doyel | CBSSports.com National Columnist

There's an argument to be made that Alabama's Trent Richardson shouldn't be drafted as early as he'll be drafted next week. And it's a compelling argument. In the past decade, only seven running backs have been picked in the top 10 of the NFL Draft -- and just one of them was worth it: Adrian Peterson, who went No. 7 overall in 2007.

That's the argument against Trent Richardson.

Here's the argument for Trent Richardson: He's better than Adrian Peterson.

That's my position, anyway, and I'm never wrong on this sort of thing. Well, I'm not. In my illustrious career here at CBSSports.com (shaddup), I've weighed in on exactly one top-10 draft pick. It was 2006. The pick was Vince Young. I laughed at it, said he wasn't worthy of the No. 3 pick, said a whole lot of other stuff that angered people in Tennessee and Texas. I was right, of course. I was so right, it's almost embarrassing to brag about it. Vince Young would fail? Well, duh -- who couldn't see that one coming?

Lots of folks, actually. Back in 2006.

Point being, the same sort of fervor will be spoken about Trent Richardson some day, only in the opposite direction, and I want to get out front of that as well. When he's the best running back in the NFL, don't bother saying, "Well, everyone saw that coming." No, everyone didn't. Everyone is saying he's the best running back prospect in 2012, but I'm not seeing a lot of talk that he'll be the best back in the league.

What I'm seeing is a lot of debate about whether Trent Richardson is worth going as early as he's going to go. I've seen it on NFL.com, and I've seen it here at CBSSports.com, and that's just the start. It's everywhere, and it's a fascinating concept: In today's NFL, have running backs been so devalued by the passing explosion -- and their careers so compromised by the league's violence -- that they're no longer a value pick early in the first round?

It's a great question, but I have an even better answer:

He's worth it when he's as good as Trent Richardson.

Again, we haven't seen a guy like this since Adrian Peterson. Before him? Marshall Faulk. Then Barry Sanders. That's how far back you have to go to find three more promising running backs, pre-draft, than Trent Richardson. Along the way, of course, other guys have overachieved. Emmitt Smith, the all-time rushing leader, went 17th overall in 1990. Curtis Martin, the No. 4 all-time rusher, was a third-round pick in 1995. Chris Johnson, the only back to reach 2,000 yards in the past eight years, went 24th overall in 2008. Scouts miss on guys. It happens.

It isn't happening with Richardson, but still his value is being debated. He looks to be headed to Cleveland with the fourth pick, and if that doesn't happen the Bucs are ready to grab him at No. 5, but the debate rages on: Should he go fourth or fifth?

And I say: No -- he should go third.

Look, this is a quarterback's league, so Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III have to go No. 1 and No. 2. A franchise quarterback trumps a superstar running back every time, even this time. But an offensive tackle? No, an offensive tackle doesn't trump Trent Richardson, but that's who the Vikings -- who have Peterson at running back, of course -- are said to be taking with the third overall pick: Southern California tackle Matt Kalil.

Which would just be an enormous mistake. Whether they draft Richardson and trade Peterson, or (much more likely) trade the pick for a ransom, the Vikings should do something -- anything -- to avoid being known as the team, years from now, that used the No. 3 draft pick on a non-quarterback other than Trent Richardson.

Richardson is special, and not just on the field. He's a special young man, which has nothing to do with his ability to run for 1,500 yards but still has value in a league where public relations are vital. Richardson is unselfish enough to have taken a backseat to Mark Ingram at Alabama even though some people at the time suspected -- and now we know -- that Richardson was the better back.

A franchise would be lucky to make Trent Richardson its public face. This is a guy who lost his father and two aunts to cancer, and whose mother is a cancer survivor, so when he heard about a high school senior in nearby Hueytown, Ala., who had beaten cancer -- but didn't have a date to the prom -- Richardson took her to the prom himself.

On the field he's special in a different way. Richardson is lineman-strong in the weight room, where he benches 475 pounds and squats 600, and he uses that strength to protect the ball -- no lost fumbles in two years -- and break tackles. He's Adrian Peterson, is what he is, only short, squatter, more powerful. But just as fast. And with better hands. And a better blocker, too. Watch the third run on this video, where he's too strong for the opposing SEC defensive front, and too fast for its secondary.

He's a physical freak, is Trent Richardson, but he's a running back -- so the question is, how early should a team draft him?

And the answer is: As early as possible. It has been years since the NFL has seen a guy like this. And it'll be years before it sees another.

 

[Noonan]

Ask a Minnesota Vikings fan what an elite RB gets you without a passing game to open it up.

I generally agree with your post and also wonder if we need another year of adding to the roster before getting a player like Richardson. But it should be pointed out that the 9ers and Ravens were a couple of bad special teams plays away from getting to the Super Bowl.

The idea that you must have an elite QB has been way overstated. Flacco and Smith are game managers on their good days. I don't think it's a stretch to say that Colt could be on their tier and that getting a player like Richardson (our answer to Rice and Gore) would go a long way toward stabilizing our offense.

But our D isn't on the level of the Ravens and 9ers. So the question reverts back to whether we are ready to add a RB who has a narrow window of peak performance.

 

[The Voice]

Are you basing this on anything or just pulling it out of your ass? The best defense in the NFL (49ers) didn't draft either of their starting corners last year. How many first round corners have the Steelers drafted?

And how many of the past 5 Superbowl champs drafted a hb in the top 5?