If we can get through the early 2000s, we can get through this.
We just might need to weed the fans who can't deal with an 8-game losing streak out ... heck, used to be a 3-game losing streak would rile up a few "Fire Mike Brown" threads.
you can't play 4 games in 5 nights with 7 players, two of which are playing injured (mo and andy).
So you're relying on good timing.
The indians had a large fan base once. I went to a game this year fairly early in the season, and decided a day or two before the game to get tickets. We got tickets in the front row right behind the team dugout. Entire sections all over the stadium were completely empty.
If you think we can be as bad or worse than we've been and retain our large fan base, here's a picture from the start of the 2nd half of the recent Celtics game
That was before we had lost 5 straight games by an average of 22 points.
.....If you think we can be as bad or worse than we've been and retain our large fan base, here's a picture from the start of the 2nd half of the recent Celtics game.
Jason Lloyd ABJCavsInsiderThere should be zero concern about contraction. Seems fewer and fewer nowadays look and think long term and only look at the right now.
Seattle lost their team because they had terrible ownership who sold the team to a group of lying carpetbaggers from Oklahoma who lied about keeping the team in Seattle. The inability to get a new arena project going is also a reason. Cavs don't have an ownership problem and have a relatively new arena that also had recent renovations. It also has the now necessary luxury suites that the Seattle arena lacked.
The questions about whether the Cavs need to rebuild should be over now. There are no longer any if's about it. The key is getting Gilbert and Scott on board with it. There's a point where even they have to be getting to that realization. The worst thing now is that if you're going to lose you want to at least see good effort every night and have some players on the roster that give you hope for the future. Cavs lack those things now. They have some decent complimentary pieces but no one they can build with or around.
like I said, I've had those tickets for 3 years and it's never looked like that to start the second half. Not just my section, it was all over the arena. Ahmad was calling for the fans to stand and cheer the team on as we start the second half and I look around and almost nobody was even there to cheer.
Look, dude, just go start a "Cavs contraction" thread and stop posting about it in every thread you step foot in. It isn't likely. It isn't even close to being a concern. It shouldn't have to be said everytime you type something.
I've only briefly mentioned contraction - and did so in the context that the OKC model everyone loves ended up costing Seattle their franchise.
I've only briefly mentioned contraction - and did so in the context that the OKC model everyone loves ended up costing Seattle their franchise.
There are several issues I think should be considered.
1 - OKC hasn't won anything
2 - the massive lost attendance and resulting lost revenue from having a very bad team. With 20,562 every night, we can spend $100 million on payroll and be fine financially. With 11,000 or so and most of the lower bowl empty, we can't approach that. Bringing in talented, but slightly overpaid players, could pay for itself.
3 - maintaining our winning culture makes us a more attractive place to play. Players weren't asking for LeBron to commit to come here specifically because they wanted to play on LeBron's team, but rather because they wanted to play on a winning team.
4 - many teams are losing money, because of advanced season ticket sales, we have a 1 year cushion of being able to spend money to get a good team now instead of counting on draft picks panning out. it's generally a good idea to be one of the few buyers when everyone else is selling.
I only mention Seattle moving or possible contraction to point out that things can go very bad when you intentionally get bad to go after draft picks. For example, I'm sure there were quite a few Sonics fans who were in favor of blowing the team up when they traded Ray Allen. Why intentionally put ourselves in a position where our attendance plummets at a time when the league has financial uncertainty?
For the second time, Seattle didn't move because of blowing the team up. How many times must this be said before you stop repeating this falsehood?