Man Executes Two Teen Intruders

Coc Rhakalu said:

First off, I don't own a gun so yeah you'd probably leave alive.

But no, I'm wouldn't say that if the first shots were death shots. Although I'm of the opinion that he should have warned them and given them a chance to surrender. Still, even if he didn't and just shot them and they happened to die, that's different. There's a reason I said I don't think breaking and entering/theft is worthy of the death penalty. He executed these kids.

Click to expand...

I gotcha. I read that as you didn't think they should have been killed no matter what. That's why I asked about the first shot killing them.

I think most of us agree that he went waaaaaaaaay over the line.

I can't believe this guy told the police all the details, even though they would have figured most of it out after seeing perfect execution shots on the bodies.

FlaCavsFan said:

I gotcha. I read that as you didn't think they should have been killed no matter what. That's why I asked about the first shot killing them.

I think most of us agree that he went waaaaaaaaay over the line.

I can't believe this guy told the police all the details, even though they would have figured most of it out after seeing perfect execution shots on the bodies.

Click to expand...

Yes.

If the guy had just killed them both with his first shots, I would see it as a tragedy but not that he did anything wrong. That's way different.

Lee said:

Even in Texas the guy went beyond the scope of the law. I still think he clearly isnt capable of knowing right from wrong.

Click to expand...

Oh, I agree. I was just commenting on how crazy Texas can be. They wanted(may still want to) to allow conceal/carry for students ON campus. Because some ruh-tard shot an AK on UT's campus(think he killed himself).

People who commit felonies on a regular basis and steal other people's property are bad for society. If we were re-populating the world right now, maybe I'd think twice. But there's an abundance of people out there, so my standards are high for people I think are good for society.

Law-abiding, contributing members of society are always on the list. Habitual felons are not and the guy who killed them might not be either.

I'm not saying I think they should have been executed. I'm just saying in a world crawling with idiots that keep having kids...we're better off without 2-3 more.

FlaCavsFan said:

even though they would have figured most of it out after seeing perfect execution shots on the bodies.

Click to expand...

I don't know about that. I think the guy might have still had a chance if he'd have set up a crime scene before he called the police. Maybe get the guy's fingerprints on the handgun, he used to shoot the girl, say he heard them breaking in, grabbed both guns because they were nearby and that he shot the kid during a struggle. Not saying I love the idea of doing this, but christ...it'd have been a far etter angle at self-preservation than bragging to the cops about what may turn out to have been a murder.

Just seems like an unnecessarily melodramatic, fatalistic, narcissistic point of view to me. But oh well.

FlaCavsFan said:

So what if both of the first shots to each intruder were death shots? You'd still be saying that?

Click to expand...

They weren't, so that is irrelevant.

So if I break into your house, I'm assured to walk out alive? Not at my house. Not if I have a breath in my body.

Click to expand...

Nope, you'd be going to jail. After I shot you, but not multiple times.

His mistake was the period of time between first shots and the "finishing" shots. Had he just emptied his clip into the both of them (or killed them with 1 shot each) and then called the police right away, he's good and no one finds out the magnitude of his mental illness.

Click to expand...

Does anyone else think there's way more to this story then is being told? Why does the guy own 1,000's of dollars worth of guns in the first place? Is he a drug dealer or supplier?

IO_OGIJ said:

People who commit felonies on a regular basis and steal other people's property are bad for society. If we were re-populating the world right now, maybe I'd think twice. But there's an abundance of people out there, so my standards are high for people I think are good for society.

Click to expand...

This sounds kind of like the rationalizatin Hitler might have used in his own mind...

Are we starting a group here, or just batting around some ideas?

Ok i'm just joking, and I actually agree with you in that serial criminals do not get better, they get worse. Steal some candy as a kid no big deal, steal some money from mom/dad, steal something out of a car, steal a TV from some guys house, maybe steal a car.

Crime evolves.

Mdog1 said:

This sounds kind of like the rationalizatin Hitler might have used in his own mind...

Are we starting a group here, or just batting around some ideas?

Ok i'm just joking, and I actually agree with you in that serial criminals do not get better, they get worse. Steal some candy as a kid no big deal, steal some money from mom/dad, steal something out of a car, steal a TV from some guys house, maybe steal a car.

Crime evolves.

Click to expand...

Shitt, unless you're me. I got picked up (at least) 2 times before I turned 21 for being far too drunk in public.. Spent about 11 hours in jail, hungover as shit. I'll never go back. Since then, I graduated from the school I was suspended from, I work a full-time career and I live in a house with my girlfriend and a cat. Once was enough to put me back on the straight and narrow.

The Optomist said:

Does anyone else think there's way more to this story then is being told? Why does the guy own 1,000's of dollars worth of guns in the first place? Is he a drug dealer or supplier?

Click to expand...

LOL you've never met a gun enthusiast? You ever been to a gun show?

Yea...I'd spend over a grand on 1 weapon (kimber handguns) if I had the money (I don't).

I've found that, like most other things, once I start getting intrigued by something (learning about guns, learning to shoot guns, getting my concealed handgun license) it starts to become a hobby. I have a buddy who is 27 or 28 and he owns about 20 handguns, a few rifles/shotguns, crossbow, etc. One of the nicest guys I know.

Moral of the story (updated):

Don't break into houses
Don't become a crazy old man/woman. If you want to kill something go shoot a deer.

IO_OGIJ said:

I stand firm on my stance that regardless of the guy's guilt, society is better off without the two teenagers.

Click to expand...

I forgot how impeccable your background was. You're insane.

Damage said:

I forgot how impeccable your background was. You're insane.

Click to expand...

He's insane? Nah, I think it's insane to break into houses repeatedly (but again, I don't even know what to believe and I really don't care).

The Optomist said:

They weren't, so that is irrelevant.

Click to expand...

It was a relevant question, because I had understood what he has said as he wouldn't want them killed under any circumstances. I was giving a circumstance. Turns out I interpreted what he was saying incorrectly. But thanks.

The Optomist said:

Nope, you'd be going to jail. After I shot you, but not multiple times.

Click to expand...

So... No I wouldn't be walking out alive, but I'd be going to jail? Also, you're saying you would only shoot once? What if it was just a glancing shot off my arm and I was still approaching? No further action?

Seriously though, I agree with most of the others that he went way too far. But what is the line between a wound that disables someone and one that the person could still grab a weapon and take you out? Is it our responsibility to know that? Again, if this guys' story is close to true, then he obviously went way too far.

The Optomist said:

Does anyone else think there's way more to this story then is being told? Why does the guy own 1,000's of dollars worth of guns in the first place? Is he a drug dealer or supplier?

Click to expand...

I agree with you that the guy is crazy and I'm sure that he isn't giving the entirely correct story. But it can be fairly common to have well over $1,000 worth of guns. Hell, I'm sure you could spend $1,000 on a single gun once you get all the accessories.

BigMar Lion said:

He's insane? Nah, I think it's insane to break into houses repeatedly (but again, I don't even know what to believe and I really don't care).

Click to expand...

No, it's insane to suggest that, 2 teenagers with obvious issues should be dead bc the burglarized a house (Also: is it a fact that these 2 did in fact rob this guy the previous times? It's a logical assumption, just wasn't sure).

These kids got the drug hooks into them. Let me pose it to you this way: let's say it was an iraq war veteran who broke into the house, searched for things to steal so he could feed his addiction. Would you think differently?

FlaCavsFan said:

It was a relevant question, because I had understood what he has said as he wouldn't want them killed under any circumstances. I was giving a circumstance. Turns out I interpreted what he was saying incorrectly. But thanks.




So... No I wouldn't be walking out alive, but I'd be going to jail?

Seriously though, I agree with most of the others that he went way too far. But what is the line between a wound that disables someone and one that the person could still grab a weapon and take you out? Is it our responsibility to know that? Again, if this guys' story is close to true, then he obviously went way too far.




I agree with you that the guy is crazy and I'm sure that he isn't giving the entirely correct story. But it can be fairly common to have well over $1,000 worth of guns. Hell, I'm sure you could spend $1,000 on a single gun once you get all the accessories.

Click to expand...

yeah when he said that I almost laughed.. when you own guns you've spent well over $1,000 in guns and supplies. ammunition alone can add up, especially for high caliber guns. Add in rounds used during practice and any average gun enthusiast can easily spend upwards to $3,000 before you know it