The guy did his time I don't see how something that's in the past and has nothing to do with football is being brought up so much. I get that he is average but Weeden isn't going to be above average either. At least he adds a new dynamic with his legs to the offense.
And who gives a fuck if the mainstream media wants to jab at us because of it? We are the browns, we have been getting ripped on for years. What's another year of it going to do? It's not like he is the future, it's just a stop gap. Throw him a two-year incentive based contract.
The guy did his time I don't see how something that's in the past and has nothing to do with football is being brought up so much. I get that he is average but Weeden isn't going to be above average either. At least he adds a new dynamic with his legs to the offense.
And who gives a fuck if the mainstream media wants to jab at us because of it? We are the browns, we have been getting ripped on for years. What's another year of it going to do? It's not like he is the future, it's just a stop gap. Throw him a two-year incentive based contract.
Vick is average at best and on the decline. Weeden at least has some room for growth.
Had a higher QB rating than Weeden last year. Then again, so did Nick Foles...
Weeden is no where near a QB who is ready to win a playoff game...
The guy did his time I don't see how something that's in the past and has nothing to do with football is being brought up so much.
It's just different people's personal views. Personally, I don't want to root for a guy who I think is a scumbag. (I wasn't too high on the Brett Myers signing because he slaps around his wife.) But I realize that's different for everyone. I'm not saying you have to hate Michael Vick, too.
People care about the wrong things. They need to start caring about the right things.
JUST WIN IS RIGHT
Thank God we have you here to remind people what they should be caring about.
He hasn't played over 13 games in a season since 2006, so be ready to see Colt for at least 3 of those games.
His #'s have been on the decline over the past 3 seasons.
He's a turnover machine & has always been one.
He's 32 years old and has taken 10 seasons of NFL hits on his body.
Yes, their line sucked last season. However, he was sacked 2.8 times per game. That # is way up from 2011 (1.8), but is identical to 2010 (2.83), when he had a QB Rating of 100.2. So what was the difference between that season & 2012?
He's also been sacked more at other points in his career (3.1 per game in '04, 2.81 in '06).
His # of 20+ yd runs have gone from 8 to 5 to 1. His rushing TD have gone from 9 to 1 to 1. His 1st down % on runs have gone from 38.0% to 36.8% to 32.3%. His 5.4 YPC were his lowest since '09 (when he only had 24 attempts) and the 2nd lowest of his career.
The thing that makes him so "dynamic" is his legs, and he's now an injury, turnover prone, 32 year old QB whose legs won't get him out of as many messes as they used to.
At least Weeden could improve by being put in a better position to succeed. Vick is what he is at this point in his career, and it's nothing special.
My arguement is simple. Vick gives you a much better chance of winning a superbowl now and in the future than Weeden does.
OK, please show your work. This thread is full of numbers to show how Vick is an average QB at best. I would like to see some evidence that supports him being a Super Bowl QB.