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Look at the bright side. He knows how to use a strong armed QB with below average accuracy.
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Interesting perspective from two different former players... Fujita supporting him and Riddle not so much:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mike Zimmer is a damn good football coach.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/289045653621993473" data-datetime="2013-01-09T16:27:08+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="287692634305224704"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/ryan_riddle">ryan_riddle</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/tmeltonscouting">tmeltonscouting</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/ap575">ap575</a> He's not warm & fuzzy, but he's damn good. And he gets guys to play. I enjoyed him.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/287695062329094144" data-datetime="2013-01-05T23:00:22+00:00">January 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289056590898794496"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/ryan_riddle">ryan_riddle</a> Can't predict how someone will perform as HC. But I think his body of work has earned him a shot, if that's what he wants.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/289057797121925120" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:15:23+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289055772854329346"><p>yea I think he is more than a bad interviewer though. Dehumanizing treatment in my limited exposure to him. @<a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99">scottfujita99</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/rosstuckernfl">rosstuckernfl</a></p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289056261423648768" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:09:17+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289062908212699136"><p>I don't think that's his issue with becoming a HC but I could be wrong.@<a href="https://twitter.com/jasoncoleyahoo">jasoncoleyahoo</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99">scottfujita99</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/rosstuckernfl">rosstuckernfl</a></p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289065498606465024" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:46:00+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289059540933165056"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/joegoodberry">joegoodberry</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff_sam">pff_sam</a> I think he wins over his fair share of players. And he may have grown wiser over the years.</p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289059959138836480" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:23:59+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289066619483865088"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/babengalsfan">babengalsfan</a> young black kid making a mistake in practice treated like a dog.</p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289067905470066689" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:55:33+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Mike Zimmer is a damn good football coach.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/289045653621993473" data-datetime="2013-01-09T16:27:08+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="287692634305224704"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/ryan_riddle">ryan_riddle</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/tmeltonscouting">tmeltonscouting</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/ap575">ap575</a> He's not warm & fuzzy, but he's damn good. And he gets guys to play. I enjoyed him.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/287695062329094144" data-datetime="2013-01-05T23:00:22+00:00">January 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289056590898794496"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/ryan_riddle">ryan_riddle</a> Can't predict how someone will perform as HC. But I think his body of work has earned him a shot, if that's what he wants.</p>— Scott Fujita (@scottfujita99) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99/status/289057797121925120" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:15:23+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289055772854329346"><p>yea I think he is more than a bad interviewer though. Dehumanizing treatment in my limited exposure to him. @<a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99">scottfujita99</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/rosstuckernfl">rosstuckernfl</a></p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289056261423648768" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:09:17+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289062908212699136"><p>I don't think that's his issue with becoming a HC but I could be wrong.@<a href="https://twitter.com/jasoncoleyahoo">jasoncoleyahoo</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/scottfujita99">scottfujita99</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/rosstuckernfl">rosstuckernfl</a></p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289065498606465024" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:46:00+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289059540933165056"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/joegoodberry">joegoodberry</a> @<a href="https://twitter.com/pff_sam">pff_sam</a> I think he wins over his fair share of players. And he may have grown wiser over the years.</p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289059959138836480" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:23:59+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-in-reply-to="289066619483865088"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/babengalsfan">babengalsfan</a> young black kid making a mistake in practice treated like a dog.</p>— Ryan Riddle (@Ryan_Riddle) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryan_Riddle/status/289067905470066689" data-datetime="2013-01-09T17:55:33+00:00">January 9, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bengals' defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer may not tell the Browns what they want to hear, which is good
Jan 09, 2013 -- 1:30pm
By Tony Grossi
Extra Points …
The search picks up: The current phase of the Browns’ coaching search involves assistant coaches not currently involved in the playoffs.
These include current CFL Montreal head coach Marc Trestman (done), ex-Browns and current Carolina Panthers offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski (Wednesday), ex-Browns and current Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians (soon), and Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer (Wednesday).
In this group, Zimmer sticks out for a few reasons. He is the only defensive coach. He is an integral coach with a division rival. His record as a coordinator is exemplary
And his personality is the exact opposite of the comparatively mild-mannered men in his company.
Shooting straight, right between the eyes: Zimmer is a straight shooter, abrasive at times, and that doesn’t always win him style points in interviews.
Zimmer was Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator when Bobby Petrino abandoned the team in 2007 with three games to go to take the head coach job at University of Louisville. When Zimmer’s Bengals played the Falcons three years later, the episode was revisited by reporters. Zimmer’s expletive-laced diatribe against Petrino was a classic.
Zimmer called Petrino a coward and said he ruined “a bunch of people’s lives” for not finishing the season.
“He’s a gutless (expletive). Quote that. I don’t give a (expletive),” Zimmer said.
It made for great copy. It may have rubbed some owners the wrong way. But it was pure, unfiltered Zimmer. He is a coach, not a politican.
Last alphabetically, and more: Zimmer interviewed for head coach jobs last year with Tampa Bay and Miami. Neither called him back. For a while, he was regarded as a prime contender in Dallas because he made a mark as Bill Parcells’ defensive coach the last time the Cowboys were relevant. But Jerry Jones never called.
After doing another fine job with the Bengals this season – they ranked sixth overall in the defensive rankings – nobody called him until the Browns this week.
On Monday, Zimmer was made available to the Cincinnati media. Here is a transcript account of a portion of it.
Question: Have you heard from any clubs?
Zimmer: No.
Reporter follow-up: That would seem to me rather (expletive) amazing.
Zimmer: Can you write that? You do if I say it.
In December, prior to the Bengals’ home game against the Cowboys, Zimmer revealed how driven he is to become an NFL head coach.
Question: Did you ever think you’d be head coach of the Cowboys?
Zimmer: Some other people did. I thought I’d be a head coach somewhere. Honestly, I don’t listen to that stuff anymore. Honest to God’s truth. I’ve had for so many years have people say, “This is your year.” Then at the end of the year for about three days I’m totally depressed because I see this guy get a job, that guy get a job. So it’s in my best interest not to think about it, talk about it and just try to do the best job I can because I’m like (everybody else). I get disappointed, too.”
Question: Do you have a chip … ?
Zimmer: I always have a chip on my shoulder. When don’t I?
Question: Were the two (interviews after 2011) more disappointing?
Zimmer: Not any more than any others. I always thought people wanted coaches that can coach and I think I can coach. Obviously, there’s probably some more that goes into it, but when you say what do you want in a coach -- Somebody to get these guys to do what they’re supposed to do when they’re supposed to do it. Play real hard, don’t make mistakes.
Browns fans shouldn’t confuse Zimmer’s bluntness with Rob Ryan’s bluster. Zimmer’s teams get results.
Jan 09, 2013 -- 1:30pm
By Tony Grossi
Extra Points …
The search picks up: The current phase of the Browns’ coaching search involves assistant coaches not currently involved in the playoffs.
These include current CFL Montreal head coach Marc Trestman (done), ex-Browns and current Carolina Panthers offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski (Wednesday), ex-Browns and current Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians (soon), and Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer (Wednesday).
In this group, Zimmer sticks out for a few reasons. He is the only defensive coach. He is an integral coach with a division rival. His record as a coordinator is exemplary
And his personality is the exact opposite of the comparatively mild-mannered men in his company.
Shooting straight, right between the eyes: Zimmer is a straight shooter, abrasive at times, and that doesn’t always win him style points in interviews.
Zimmer was Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator when Bobby Petrino abandoned the team in 2007 with three games to go to take the head coach job at University of Louisville. When Zimmer’s Bengals played the Falcons three years later, the episode was revisited by reporters. Zimmer’s expletive-laced diatribe against Petrino was a classic.
Zimmer called Petrino a coward and said he ruined “a bunch of people’s lives” for not finishing the season.
“He’s a gutless (expletive). Quote that. I don’t give a (expletive),” Zimmer said.
It made for great copy. It may have rubbed some owners the wrong way. But it was pure, unfiltered Zimmer. He is a coach, not a politican.
Last alphabetically, and more: Zimmer interviewed for head coach jobs last year with Tampa Bay and Miami. Neither called him back. For a while, he was regarded as a prime contender in Dallas because he made a mark as Bill Parcells’ defensive coach the last time the Cowboys were relevant. But Jerry Jones never called.
After doing another fine job with the Bengals this season – they ranked sixth overall in the defensive rankings – nobody called him until the Browns this week.
On Monday, Zimmer was made available to the Cincinnati media. Here is a transcript account of a portion of it.
Question: Have you heard from any clubs?
Zimmer: No.
Reporter follow-up: That would seem to me rather (expletive) amazing.
Zimmer: Can you write that? You do if I say it.
In December, prior to the Bengals’ home game against the Cowboys, Zimmer revealed how driven he is to become an NFL head coach.
Question: Did you ever think you’d be head coach of the Cowboys?
Zimmer: Some other people did. I thought I’d be a head coach somewhere. Honestly, I don’t listen to that stuff anymore. Honest to God’s truth. I’ve had for so many years have people say, “This is your year.” Then at the end of the year for about three days I’m totally depressed because I see this guy get a job, that guy get a job. So it’s in my best interest not to think about it, talk about it and just try to do the best job I can because I’m like (everybody else). I get disappointed, too.”
Question: Do you have a chip … ?
Zimmer: I always have a chip on my shoulder. When don’t I?
Question: Were the two (interviews after 2011) more disappointing?
Zimmer: Not any more than any others. I always thought people wanted coaches that can coach and I think I can coach. Obviously, there’s probably some more that goes into it, but when you say what do you want in a coach -- Somebody to get these guys to do what they’re supposed to do when they’re supposed to do it. Play real hard, don’t make mistakes.
Browns fans shouldn’t confuse Zimmer’s bluntness with Rob Ryan’s bluster. Zimmer’s teams get results.
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I'd say the use of the word "black" is for the purpose of drama... How sure are we that Zimmer wouldn't treat any young kid who plays poorly like a dog? No context there to make that assumption.
On a side note, Ryan Riddle? Is he related to the James family? Sounds like a butt-hurt borderline special teamer who didn't like that he got a whoopin' for sucking at football. He "retired" from the Calgary Stampeders in 2009 after a stellar 4 year career.
Shitty players don't get along with coaches who don't like to deal with shitty players. This guy probably got treated like a dog.
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First off, who the hell is Ryan Riddle? Secondly, I'm going to assume that Zimmer did something right to get Burfict from UDFA to the team leader in tackles.
Edit: Ryan Riddle is a former practice squad DE who "writes" for the Bleacher Report.
Edit: Ryan Riddle is a former practice squad DE who "writes" for the Bleacher Report.
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Ryan Riddle was probably cut by Mike Zimmer and didn't like the way Zimmer cut him down for sucking ass.
Zimmer finds the losers and makes them shape up or ship out. Fucking love that attitude.
Zimmer finds the losers and makes them shape up or ship out. Fucking love that attitude.
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Which boys are you talking about? Now, I may be a mean cuss, but I'm the same mean cuss with everybody out there on that football field. The world don't give a damn about how sensitive these kids are-- Especially the young black kids. You ain't doing these kids a favor by patronizing them. You're crippling them. You're crippling them for life.
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I want Zimmer.
That said, Banner will immediately hate him and his attitude..
On another note, why does Haslam like Banner? Sure, he probably knows some stuff, but literally everyone else in the world just HATES the guy's face and attitude. There's no appeal there. Ugh
That said, Banner will immediately hate him and his attitude..
On another note, why does Haslam like Banner? Sure, he probably knows some stuff, but literally everyone else in the world just HATES the guy's face and attitude. There's no appeal there. Ugh
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What has Banner done to make everybody hate him? Didnt he last in Phili for something like 14 years? Must not be that horrible of a guy. Maybe he did clash with Reid towards the end of his tenure. Maybe Reid was wrong seeing that the Eagles have sucked the past few years. Its not uncommon for businessmen to clash.
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Gimme Zimmer and let's go get our GM!
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I clearly said why I hate him. His face and his attitude. I said nothing against the guy as a business man, it just seems like everyone who has seen him since coming to Cleveland is turned off by his face. Even friends of mine who aren't Browns fans are perturbed by that guy's weird ass face.
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