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2016 Presidential Race AND POLL

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Who do you plan to vote for in November?

  • Hillary Clinton

    Votes: 93 39.6%

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 44 18.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 55 23.4%

  • I won't vote

    Votes: 43 18.3%
  • Total voters
    235
ajz20 said:
I did not get to the big island. Is it worth spending a week there? Live able?
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It's definitely worth a week of your time.

Livable? Sure... but you've gotta be ready for it. From the sound of it, you're interested in nightlife, good restaurants, etc.. You won't find that there.
 
gourimoko said:
It's definitely worth a week of your time.

Livable? Sure... but you've gotta be ready for it. From the sound of it, you're interested in nightlife, good restaurants, etc.. You won't find that there.
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Too bad Honolulu has no pro sports teams!
 
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Why were protesters from black lives matter interrupting Bernie Sanders? What did I miss?
 
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Huber. said:
Why were protesters from black lives matter interrupting Bernie Sanders? What did I miss?
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I didn't go to the rally but probably should have since these things tend to bring out the crazies.

So, two ladies claiming to be with Black Lives Matter interrupted, disrupted and crashed the event. They grabbed the mic and gave the usual BLM speech and demanded and got 4.5 minutes of silence for those Black men murdered by the police. Bernie left before being able to speak.

The Human Q-Tip said:
Because he's white.
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Not quite. This isn't the first time rogue BLM folks have crashed a Bernie Sanders event while not only not targeting Hillary rallies, but also abusing poor Bernie as being against Black Lives and praising Hillary. By any standard, Bernie's record vis-a-vis African American issues is far better than Hillary's so it is something of a mystery (not really) why he keeps getting hit.

But...it gets more interesting from there. Turns out the two are not really affiliated with BLM in a meaningful sense, and are actually members of a local group of malcontents knowns as "Outside Agitators 206." The professional pain-in-the-ass provocateurs are known for crashing events around Seattle to draw attention to [whatever bellyaching bullshit] to include crashing the Christmas Tree lighting at City Hall and blocking I-5. As such, they have alienated most everyone that would be inclined to endorse social justice causes like Black Lives Matter....

Oddly enough, OA206 website's IP is registered to Merck Pharmaceuticals.... Crazy, @gourimoko, don't you think?
 
King Stannis said:
I didn't go to the rally but probably should have since these things tend to bring out the crazies.

So, two ladies claiming to be with Black Lives Matter interrupted, disrupted and crashed the event. They grabbed the mic and gave the usual BLM speech and demanded and got 4.5 minutes of silence for those Black men murdered by the police. Bernie left before being able to speak.



Not quite. This isn't the first time rogue BLM folks have crashed a Bernie Sanders event while not only not targeting Hillary rallies, but also abusing poor Bernie as being against Black Lives and praising Hillary. By any standard, Bernie's record vis-a-vis African American issues is far better than Hillary's so it is something of a mystery (not really) why he keeps getting hit.

But...it gets more interesting from there. Turns out the two are not really affiliated with BLM in a meaningful sense, and are actually members of a local group of malcontents knowns as "Outside Agitators 206." The professional pain-in-the-ass provocateurs are known for crashing events around Seattle to draw attention to [whatever bellyaching bullshit] to include crashing the Christmas Tree lighting at City Hall and blocking I-5. As such, they have alienated most everyone that would be inclined to endorse social justice causes like Black Lives Matter....

Oddly enough, OA206 website's IP is registered to Merck Pharmaceuticals.... Crazy, @gourimoko, don't you think?
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You hit the nail on the head.

The only thing I'd add is that Sanders did deserve what happened to him at Netroots Nation. He totally misunderstands the BLM concern, while literally requiring a 90%+ turnout from African-Americans.

To be told, All Lives Matter, and that the problems in the Black community are entirely economically driven misses the point of the movement; which is that there is a major racial component - outside of the control of Black victims - and that must be addressed by government.

He seems to be getting it; but Clinton has embraced it, publicly and vocally..

My worry is that Clinton is going to play a scorched Earth strategy using Black and Latino voters as a buffer to prevent Sanders from winning any states that have even marginal minority populations. This is a dangerous game to play, because if she causes Black voters to become alienated from Sanders and he ultimate wins the nomination; you would end up with a candidate so damaged that he'd have no hope in the general.
 
Huber. said:
What did they say and what was his response?
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They were a couple of agitators, they actually weren't representing anyone but themselves.

Regardless, Sanders spoke with them and told them he understood their frustrations and then left the stage when they hijacked the mic and essentially endorsed Clinton.
 
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