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Dont know if this had been posted yet but Amick is prettly clued in and this sounds legit::



With Kentucky's Anthony Davis (23) the almost-certain No. 1 pick, Thomas Robinson (0) of Kansas could well go to the Bobcats at No. 2.
Chris Steppig/NCAA Photos via US PRESSWIRE
When the NBA Draft lottery balls came bouncing down in 2007, then-Seattle assistant general manager Rich Cho was standing next to then-Portland general manager Kevin Pritchard inside the Madison Square Garden room where the fates of two franchises were being determined.

The Blazers were given the No. 1 overall pick, and would ultimately make the ill-fated decision to take center Greg Oden out of Ohio State. The Sonics would wind up being elated with their runner-up status, selecting Texas' Kevin Durant and thereby starting the league's most impressive rebuilding effort of this era.

But Cho, who is now heading Charlotte's massive rebuild as the team's general manager, won't look back on Wednesday night with any sort of fondness. This was not the year to come in second place, not with Kentucky forward Anthony Davis sitting there as the one player widely seen as a franchise centerpiece, future All-Star and immediate impact player.

Yet that's what happened in New York, where the Bobcats -- who endured a miserable season that went down as the worst, percentage-wise, in the history of the NBA and resulted in the top odds to land the top pick (25 percent) -- were given the No. 2 pick and the New Orleans Hornets leapfrogged three teams and won the rights to add Davis in the June 28 draft despite having just a 13.7 percent chance to do so. And while projecting the careers of draft prospects is almost always a fool's errand, you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone in NBA circles who isn't convinced the Hornets are the runaway winners of this latest lottery.

Conspiracy theories aside (the team is still technically owned by the NBA, although it's being bought by New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson, and thus the selection sparked all the predictable chatter about the lottery being rigged), the Hornets are now fast-tracked for their turnaround just five and a half months after the Chris Paul trade with the Clippers left them reaching for relevancy (and, of course, sparked similar conspiracy theory chatter after the NBA vetoed Paul's trade to the Lakers). Coach Monty Williams is a fantastic young coach who will be a worthy fit with Davis. Restricted free agent shooting guard Eric Gordon, who has said he wants to re-sign but was certainly watching to see what the offseason would bring for the Hornets roster, now has one large (Davis is 6-foot-10 and 220 pounds) and talented reason to return. New Orleans landed Gordon in the Paul deal, and has the No. 10 pick in this draft as a result of that trade as well.

Some other observations on the lottery and what it means ...

• That noise you heard from the New York stage was newbie Golden State general manager Bob Myers breathing a huge sigh of relief when the Warriors were given the No. 7 pick. In the first year under coach Mark Jackson, they had come up with a new form of tanking to protect their pick that would have gone to Utah if it wasn't in the top seven.

After trading their leading scorer (Monta Ellis) to Milwaukee for injured center Andrew Bogut in mid-March, they had a built-in excuse to take a nosedive and took it even further by going deep into their bench late in the season as part of a 7-22 finish. Even if the Warriors wind up trading the pick, it was a huge part of their aggressive plan to improve under owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber and the sort of asset they simply couldn't afford to lose. That was also the case with Brooklyn, but ...

• That other sound you heard was Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov cursing the basketball gods when he should have been yelling at himself. When Nets general manager Billy King proposed a deal to acquire small forward Gerald Wallace in March in exchange for a package that included the team's first-round pick (top 3 protected), someone should have asked the question of whether or not the 29-year-old -- whose nickname ("Crash") likely means he has 35 years of mileage on his legs -- was truly the sort of player who could inspire point guard/free-agent-to-be Deron Williams to stick around.

King has said that he plans on signing Wallace to a long-term deal when he becomes a free agent this summer, but the pick would have come in handy when he continued shopping for other talent to put around Williams. And for what it's worth, I'm not convinced that it's Dwight Howard-or-bust when it comes to the Nets' chances. There are other moves that can be made to appease him, but those moves just got a little harder.

• Portland, meanwhile, just became an even better destination for some new general manager. As I chronicle here, the Blazers are finalizing their GM search and now get to boast a team with two lottery picks (No. 6 and No. 11) in a draft that is widely considered one of the deepest in years.

• Sacramento stayed in its No. 5 slot and remains the league leader in consecutive appearances in the lottery (six). Not the kind of record anyone should shoot for. As for what the Kings do with the pick, I'd be surprised if they reach for either of the "high-risk, high-reward" picks that will likely be available there, specifically Baylor forward Perry Jones or Connecticut center Andre Drummond. The aforementioned record of lottery appearances means the Kings need impact players now, and they may be open to trading the pick unless they expect to get someone there who can make a difference.

• I'll have a Mock Draft coming out Thursday, but here's a possible preview/projection, courtesy of a front-office man whose team is in the top five. New Orleans takes Davis, followed by Charlotte taking Kansas forward Thomas Robinson, Washington taking Kentucky small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cleveland taking North Carolina small forward Harrison Barnes and Sacramento taking Florida shooting guard Bradley Beal.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...30/nba.draft.lottery/index.html#ixzz1wSXDapzP
 
Not saying it isn't possible, but playing 2 PF's (Thompson & Robinson) would make the Cavaliers undersized and perhaps a liability in the block defensively. I mean, who covers the other team's center? The way I see it, if you're thinking of pairing Robinson & Thompson then you have to also strongly consider a pairing of Drummond & Thompson and decide which might be best. Certainly Robinson is better offensively, at this point, but he's 3 years older and Drummond has the potential to be a real defensive force right away and possibly the next Andrew Bynum.

This is why I said drafting TR is redundant with TT..we have no center..and no, AV cannot be counted on to play a full season. But if the Cavs like Melo like @24 , you don't need to gamble on Drummond. Get your wing @4 and take a center @ 24,or 34.
 
For a guy that played defense exclusively in a zone, Melo's rebounding numbers were pedestrian at best. Watch how Kyle O'Quinn performs and measures
out at the Chicago Combine. I think he's woth a shot if he's around at 33, if we're looking to add a big.
 
Could ease a bit of KI's wants. With him and MKG being so close, it may have caused a bit of a strain if we went another direction. Doubtful on that, but that is all but eliminated...
 
This is why I said drafting TR is redundant with TT..we have no center..and no, AV cannot be counted on to play a full season. But if the Cavs like Melo like @24 , you don't need to gamble on Drummond. Get your wing @4 and take a center @ 24,or 34.

It's questionable whether Melo, or any other decent center prospects, will be there at #24 or in the 2nd round. The question then becomes whether you take someone like Kyle O'Quinn, hoping he can play center, or you reach for another prospect, like Renardo Sidney or Robert Sacre, in the 2nd round. Point being, there is likely to be better wing prospects available in the late 1st & early 2nd round than there are center prospects.
 
If the Cats go Robinson I would offer up a package of picks to the Wizards for MKG. They have Wall, Crawford, Vesely. I think they'd be looking Drummond?
 
If the Cats go Robinson I would offer up a package of picks to the Wizards for MKG. They have Wall, Crawford, Vesely. I think they'd be looking Drummond?

Nah. Vesely is a PF. The Wizards have Nene & a decent, young backup in Seraphin at center. They'll go for a SG or SF, who can shoot from the outside, at #3. Don't be surprised if they pass on MKG for either Barnes or Beal.
 
It's questionable whether Melo, or any other decent center prospects, will be there at #24 or in the 2nd round. The question then becomes whether you take someone like Kyle O'Quinn, hoping he can play center, or you reach for another prospect, like Renardo Sidney or Robert Sacre, in the 2nd round. Point being, there is likely to be better wing prospects available in the late 1st & early 2nd round than there are center prospects.

But if any of those wing players in the late 1st/2nd aren't decidely better than what the Cavs have now, then you go into the season still crippled at those spots.
That is the risk going either way.
I know getting a center is vital..but I have issues with Drummond..I have issues with all the prospects but it seems the later ones give me a better feel..I know what I'm getting.
I'm not really set one way or the other,I want the better combo of picks 4 and 24.
 
Dont know if this had been posted yet but Amick is prettly clued in and this sounds legit::



With Kentucky's Anthony Davis (23) the almost-certain No. 1 pick, Thomas Robinson (0) of Kansas could well go to the Bobcats at No. 2.
Chris Steppig/NCAA Photos via US PRESSWIRE
When the NBA Draft lottery balls came bouncing down in 2007, then-Seattle assistant general manager Rich Cho was standing next to then-Portland general manager Kevin Pritchard inside the Madison Square Garden room where the fates of two franchises were being determined.

The Blazers were given the No. 1 overall pick, and would ultimately make the ill-fated decision to take center Greg Oden out of Ohio State. The Sonics would wind up being elated with their runner-up status, selecting Texas' Kevin Durant and thereby starting the league's most impressive rebuilding effort of this era.

But Cho, who is now heading Charlotte's massive rebuild as the team's general manager, won't look back on Wednesday night with any sort of fondness. This was not the year to come in second place, not with Kentucky forward Anthony Davis sitting there as the one player widely seen as a franchise centerpiece, future All-Star and immediate impact player.

Yet that's what happened in New York, where the Bobcats -- who endured a miserable season that went down as the worst, percentage-wise, in the history of the NBA and resulted in the top odds to land the top pick (25 percent) -- were given the No. 2 pick and the New Orleans Hornets leapfrogged three teams and won the rights to add Davis in the June 28 draft despite having just a 13.7 percent chance to do so. And while projecting the careers of draft prospects is almost always a fool's errand, you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone in NBA circles who isn't convinced the Hornets are the runaway winners of this latest lottery.

Conspiracy theories aside (the team is still technically owned by the NBA, although it's being bought by New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson, and thus the selection sparked all the predictable chatter about the lottery being rigged), the Hornets are now fast-tracked for their turnaround just five and a half months after the Chris Paul trade with the Clippers left them reaching for relevancy (and, of course, sparked similar conspiracy theory chatter after the NBA vetoed Paul's trade to the Lakers). Coach Monty Williams is a fantastic young coach who will be a worthy fit with Davis. Restricted free agent shooting guard Eric Gordon, who has said he wants to re-sign but was certainly watching to see what the offseason would bring for the Hornets roster, now has one large (Davis is 6-foot-10 and 220 pounds) and talented reason to return. New Orleans landed Gordon in the Paul deal, and has the No. 10 pick in this draft as a result of that trade as well.

Some other observations on the lottery and what it means ...

• That noise you heard from the New York stage was newbie Golden State general manager Bob Myers breathing a huge sigh of relief when the Warriors were given the No. 7 pick. In the first year under coach Mark Jackson, they had come up with a new form of tanking to protect their pick that would have gone to Utah if it wasn't in the top seven.

After trading their leading scorer (Monta Ellis) to Milwaukee for injured center Andrew Bogut in mid-March, they had a built-in excuse to take a nosedive and took it even further by going deep into their bench late in the season as part of a 7-22 finish. Even if the Warriors wind up trading the pick, it was a huge part of their aggressive plan to improve under owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber and the sort of asset they simply couldn't afford to lose. That was also the case with Brooklyn, but ...

• That other sound you heard was Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov cursing the basketball gods when he should have been yelling at himself. When Nets general manager Billy King proposed a deal to acquire small forward Gerald Wallace in March in exchange for a package that included the team's first-round pick (top 3 protected), someone should have asked the question of whether or not the 29-year-old -- whose nickname ("Crash") likely means he has 35 years of mileage on his legs -- was truly the sort of player who could inspire point guard/free-agent-to-be Deron Williams to stick around.

King has said that he plans on signing Wallace to a long-term deal when he becomes a free agent this summer, but the pick would have come in handy when he continued shopping for other talent to put around Williams. And for what it's worth, I'm not convinced that it's Dwight Howard-or-bust when it comes to the Nets' chances. There are other moves that can be made to appease him, but those moves just got a little harder.

• Portland, meanwhile, just became an even better destination for some new general manager. As I chronicle here, the Blazers are finalizing their GM search and now get to boast a team with two lottery picks (No. 6 and No. 11) in a draft that is widely considered one of the deepest in years.

• Sacramento stayed in its No. 5 slot and remains the league leader in consecutive appearances in the lottery (six). Not the kind of record anyone should shoot for. As for what the Kings do with the pick, I'd be surprised if they reach for either of the "high-risk, high-reward" picks that will likely be available there, specifically Baylor forward Perry Jones or Connecticut center Andre Drummond. The aforementioned record of lottery appearances means the Kings need impact players now, and they may be open to trading the pick unless they expect to get someone there who can make a difference.

I'll have a Mock Draft coming out Thursday, but here's a possible preview/projection, courtesy of a front-office man whose team is in the top five. New Orleans takes Davis, followed by Charlotte taking Kansas forward Thomas Robinson, Washington taking Kentucky small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cleveland taking North Carolina small forward Harrison Barnes and Sacramento taking Florida shooting guard Bradley Beal.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...30/nba.draft.lottery/index.html#ixzz1wSXDapzP

I agree with this for the most part. I think MKG and Barnes will go 3-4, although I'm not sure in which order. The Wizards need some outside shooting and that isn't MKG's strong suit, which is why they might opt for Barnes. On the other hand, John Wall might want fellow UK alum, MKG, as his running mate in DC. I think Beal might slip a bit because of his size.
 
Ultimately I think our FO likes Barnes too much to pass on him.

Will be upset if we pass on Beal to take him.
 
But if any of those wing players in the late 1st/2nd aren't decidely better than what the Cavs have now, then you go into the season still crippled at those spots.
That is the risk going either way.
I know getting a center is vital..but I have issues with Drummond..I have issues with all the prospects but it seems the later ones give me a better feel..I know what I'm getting.
I'm not really set one way or the other,I want the better combo of picks 4 and 24.

There are enough good wings (Harkless, Quincy Miller, Fournier, Orlando Johnson) to believe that someone will be there. Aside from Melo, there isn't a whole lot at the center position in the late 1st/early 2nd, however.

That said, although they will be intrigued, I don't believe the Cavaliers will be able to bring themselves to select Drummond at #4. I think they will see him as too big of a risk and they will opt for one of the wings, with MKG, Barnes, & Beal their order of preference. Perry Jones could be a darkhorse, if he wows in workouts. I think the Cavaliers will then try to trade up into the mid 1st round to grab either a Center, like Leonard, or SG, like Ross or Waiters.
 
I see Thomas Robinson as a player the Cavs may fall in love with. Tough, works hard, high character. I like Tristan as much as the next guy but he shouldn't prevent us from selecting Robinson. Big men are like starting pitchers. You can never have enough good ones.

[video=youtube;mblUcKxZ-hE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mblUcKxZ-hE[/video]
 
Dont know if this had been posted yet but Amick is prettly clued in and this sounds legit::



With Kentucky's Anthony Davis (23) the almost-certain No. 1 pick, Thomas Robinson (0) of Kansas could well go to the Bobcats at No. 2.
Chris Steppig/NCAA Photos via US PRESSWIRE
When the NBA Draft lottery balls came bouncing down in 2007, then-Seattle assistant general manager Rich Cho was standing next to then-Portland general manager Kevin Pritchard inside the Madison Square Garden room where the fates of two franchises were being determined.

The Blazers were given the No. 1 overall pick, and would ultimately make the ill-fated decision to take center Greg Oden out of Ohio State. The Sonics would wind up being elated with their runner-up status, selecting Texas' Kevin Durant and thereby starting the league's most impressive rebuilding effort of this era.

But Cho, who is now heading Charlotte's massive rebuild as the team's general manager, won't look back on Wednesday night with any sort of fondness. This was not the year to come in second place, not with Kentucky forward Anthony Davis sitting there as the one player widely seen as a franchise centerpiece, future All-Star and immediate impact player.

Yet that's what happened in New York, where the Bobcats -- who endured a miserable season that went down as the worst, percentage-wise, in the history of the NBA and resulted in the top odds to land the top pick (25 percent) -- were given the No. 2 pick and the New Orleans Hornets leapfrogged three teams and won the rights to add Davis in the June 28 draft despite having just a 13.7 percent chance to do so. And while projecting the careers of draft prospects is almost always a fool's errand, you'll be hard-pressed to find anyone in NBA circles who isn't convinced the Hornets are the runaway winners of this latest lottery.

Conspiracy theories aside (the team is still technically owned by the NBA, although it's being bought by New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson, and thus the selection sparked all the predictable chatter about the lottery being rigged), the Hornets are now fast-tracked for their turnaround just five and a half months after the Chris Paul trade with the Clippers left them reaching for relevancy (and, of course, sparked similar conspiracy theory chatter after the NBA vetoed Paul's trade to the Lakers). Coach Monty Williams is a fantastic young coach who will be a worthy fit with Davis. Restricted free agent shooting guard Eric Gordon, who has said he wants to re-sign but was certainly watching to see what the offseason would bring for the Hornets roster, now has one large (Davis is 6-foot-10 and 220 pounds) and talented reason to return. New Orleans landed Gordon in the Paul deal, and has the No. 10 pick in this draft as a result of that trade as well.

Some other observations on the lottery and what it means ...

• That noise you heard from the New York stage was newbie Golden State general manager Bob Myers breathing a huge sigh of relief when the Warriors were given the No. 7 pick. In the first year under coach Mark Jackson, they had come up with a new form of tanking to protect their pick that would have gone to Utah if it wasn't in the top seven.

After trading their leading scorer (Monta Ellis) to Milwaukee for injured center Andrew Bogut in mid-March, they had a built-in excuse to take a nosedive and took it even further by going deep into their bench late in the season as part of a 7-22 finish. Even if the Warriors wind up trading the pick, it was a huge part of their aggressive plan to improve under owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber and the sort of asset they simply couldn't afford to lose. That was also the case with Brooklyn, but ...

• That other sound you heard was Nets owner Mikhail Prokhorov cursing the basketball gods when he should have been yelling at himself. When Nets general manager Billy King proposed a deal to acquire small forward Gerald Wallace in March in exchange for a package that included the team's first-round pick (top 3 protected), someone should have asked the question of whether or not the 29-year-old -- whose nickname ("Crash") likely means he has 35 years of mileage on his legs -- was truly the sort of player who could inspire point guard/free-agent-to-be Deron Williams to stick around.

King has said that he plans on signing Wallace to a long-term deal when he becomes a free agent this summer, but the pick would have come in handy when he continued shopping for other talent to put around Williams. And for what it's worth, I'm not convinced that it's Dwight Howard-or-bust when it comes to the Nets' chances. There are other moves that can be made to appease him, but those moves just got a little harder.

• Portland, meanwhile, just became an even better destination for some new general manager. As I chronicle here, the Blazers are finalizing their GM search and now get to boast a team with two lottery picks (No. 6 and No. 11) in a draft that is widely considered one of the deepest in years.

• Sacramento stayed in its No. 5 slot and remains the league leader in consecutive appearances in the lottery (six). Not the kind of record anyone should shoot for. As for what the Kings do with the pick, I'd be surprised if they reach for either of the "high-risk, high-reward" picks that will likely be available there, specifically Baylor forward Perry Jones or Connecticut center Andre Drummond. The aforementioned record of lottery appearances means the Kings need impact players now, and they may be open to trading the pick unless they expect to get someone there who can make a difference.

• I'll have a Mock Draft coming out Thursday, but here's a possible preview/projection, courtesy of a front-office man whose team is in the top five. New Orleans takes Davis, followed by Charlotte taking Kansas forward Thomas Robinson, Washington taking Kentucky small forward Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cleveland taking North Carolina small forward Harrison Barnes and Sacramento taking Florida shooting guard Bradley Beal.



Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...30/nba.draft.lottery/index.html#ixzz1wSXDapzP

It would be STUPID to pass on Beal for Barnes. BUT I wouldn't mind Barnes if and only if Beal has already been drafted before #4. We would have other options later on in the draft..unless they have a trick up their sleeve to trade for someone like OJ Mayo (just an example! no need to fret!) or another shooting guard.
 

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