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2012 Presidential Election

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Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election?

  • Barack Obama

    Votes: 70 60.9%
  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 42 36.5%
  • Electoral College Tie

    Votes: 3 2.6%

  • Total voters
    115
  • Poll closed .
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

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Does anyone else think he has a striking resemblance to James Bond?

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I think I found his body double.

He's the Tina Fey to Sarah Palin.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

[video=youtube;Nk5jU6VOKO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk5jU6VOKO0[/video]

Perry's team is doing it's darnedest to erase the internet record of his time working with Al Gore.

Looks like a Palin-esque flash-in-the-pan to me.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

It's been bothering me for a few days and I finally got it: Doug Neidermeyer is running for President.

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Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

Bad, bad idea to go after the Fed chairman, unless you're really looking to upturn the entire economic system on its head.

Turning Wall St. against you = not a good idea for presidential election.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

Distracted- I want to hear your opinion on Jindal.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

Distracted- I want to hear your opinion on Jindal.

[video=youtube;mmNM0oj79t8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmNM0oj79t8[/video]

A black hole of charisma. >.>

Herpa derpa derp durp.



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Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

That's it? Because of one bad speech which actually reads well if you read the transcript.

I like him.
She/he/it is an idiot
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

That's it? Because of one bad speech which actually reads well if you read the transcript.

I like him.
She/he/it is an idiot

Dude, hate to break it to you - but that was Exhibit A on how to kill your career with an opposition response speech. You haven't heard his name since then. Jindal was a rising star before that speech, and a nobody since. Sucks for him, but thats the reality of his situation.
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

Dude, hate to break it to you - but that was Exhibit A on how to kill your career with an opposition response speech. You haven't heard his name since then. Jindal was a rising star before that speech, and a nobody since. Sucks for him, but thats the reality of his situation.

That was prior to the oil spill. Right?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

She/he/it is an idiot
It seems obvious to me that Maddow is a lesbian. :dunno:

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...on-paul-shines-in-iowa-major-media-cheats-him

The latest flavor of the month is Rick Perry, who I predict will flame out far sooner than other pundits believe. Rick Perry's great claim to fame is that he gobbled up the Obama stimulus money with more gusto than the winner of the Coney Island hot dog contest stuffing down dozens of franks, then translated the Obama stimulus money into some of the lowest-paying jobs in America. If the media insists on making Perry the flavor of the week, why doesn't it report this?
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

This chart is interesting. From 2007 to 2010 Texas was responsible for nearly half of all the government jobs added during that period. And while the private sector lost 180K jobs, the government added 125K jobs. That record doesn't seem to match all of Perry's anti-government talk.


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Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

This sums it up pretty well

Texas job-growth miracle is a myth

As expected, Rick Perry, the governor of Texas, has announced that he is running for president. And we already know what his campaign will be about: faith in miracles.

Some of these miracles will involve things that you're liable to read in the Bible. But if he wins the Republican nomination, his campaign will probably center on a more secular theme: the alleged economic miracle in Texas, which, it's often asserted, sailed through the Great Recession almost unscathed thanks to conservative economic policies. And Perry will claim that he can restore prosperity to America by applying the same policies at a national level.

So what you need to know is that the Texas miracle is a myth, and more broadly that Texan experience offers no useful lessons on how to restore national full employment.

It's true that Texas entered recession a bit later than the rest of America, mainly because the state's still energy-heavy economy was buoyed by high oil prices through the first half of 2008. Also, Texas was spared the worst of the housing crisis, partly because it turns out to have surprisingly strict regulation of mortgage lending.

Despite all that, however, from mid-2008 onward unemployment soared in Texas, just as it did almost everywhere else. In June 2011, the Texas unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. That was less than unemployment in collapsed-bubble states like California and Florida, but it was slightly higher than the unemployment rate in New York, and significantly higher than the rate in Massachusetts. By the way, 1 in 4 Texans lacks health insurance, the highest proportion in the nation, thanks largely to the state's small-government approach. Meanwhile, Massachusetts has near-universal coverage thanks to health reform very similar to the "job-killing" Affordable Care Act.

So where does the notion of a Texas miracle come from? Mainly from widespread misunderstanding of the economic effects of population growth.

For this much is true about Texas: It has, for many decades, had much faster population growth than the rest of America — about twice as fast since 1990. Several factors underlie this rapid population growth: a high birth rate, immigration from Mexico, and inward migration of Americans from other states, who are attracted to Texas by its warm weather and low cost of living, low housing costs in particular.

And just to be clear, there's nothing wrong with a low cost of living. In particular, there's a good case to be made that zoning policies in many states unnecessarily restrict the supply of housing, and that this is one area where Texas does in fact do something right.

But what does population growth have to do with job growth? Well, the high rate of population growth translates into above-average job growth through a couple of channels. Many of the people moving to Texas - retirees in search of warm winters, middle-class Mexicans in search of a safer life - bring purchasing power that leads to greater local employment. At the same time, the rapid growth in the Texas work force keeps wages low - almost 10 percent of Texan workers earn the minimum wage or less, well above the national average - and these low wages give corporations an incentive to move production to the Lone Star State.

So Texas tends, in good years and bad, to have higher job growth than the rest of America. But it needs lots of new jobs just to keep up with its rising population - and as those unemployment comparisons show, recent employment growth has fallen well short of what's needed.

If this picture doesn't look very much like the glowing portrait Texas boosters like to paint, there's a reason: The glowing portrait is false.

Still, does Texas job growth point the way to faster job growth in the nation as a whole? No.

What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is "Well, duh." The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs - which is, whatever Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice - involves a fallacy of composition: Every state can't lure jobs away from every other state. In fact, at a national level lower wages would almost certainly lead to fewer jobs - because they would leave Americans even less able to cope with the overhang of debt left behind by the housing bubble, an overhang that is at the heart of our economic problem.

So when Perry presents himself as the candidate who knows how to create jobs, don't believe him. His prescriptions for job creation would work about as well in practice as his prayer-based attempt to end Texas' crippling drought.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/7698700.html


And read this one too...

August 17, 2011
As Gov. Rick Perry of Texas campaigns for the Republican presidential nomination, he's promoting his record in his home state, which has created more than 265,000 jobs in the past two years.

Perry says he would do for the nation what he's done for the Lone Star State.

The economy of Texas is growing at roughly twice the national average, but the question is: How much did Rick Perry and his low-tax, low-regulation philosophy influence that growth?

If you draw a rectangle on a piece of paper and put your pen in the bottom left-hand corner and then make a straight line across the box to the top right-hand corner, you've just drawn a graph of employment in Texas for the past 20 years. Really, that's what it looks like. From Gov. Ann Richards to Gov. George W. Bush to Gov. Rick Perry, the state has exploded in population and jobs.

"So it's not just the last 10 years; this has been going on now for 21 years — at least," says Richard Fisher, the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.

Fisher says population expansion is driving growth. Every day, about 1,000 people are either born in or move to Texas. That means new housing, roads, retail, schools, police, firemen — the list goes on. And while Perry touts the success of job creation in the private sector, job growth in government employment has been just as strong.

"We're growing at 80,000 schoolchildren a year, so those children are going to have to be accommodated," says Bill Hammond, the president of the Texas Association of Business.

The oil and gas industry provided nearly 40,000 new jobs since 2009, and most pay good wages. A truck driver servicing an oil or natural gas rig earns on average $1,600 a week. Texas is also creating a lot of low-paying jobs.

A new four-bedroom, three-bathroom house in a Dallas suburb can be bought for $189,000, and one reason is because immigrants, both legal and illegal, are willing to shingle those roofs in 100-degree heat for relatively low pay. Hammond says easy access to inexpensive labor has long been a critical part of the economy's success.

"If you look at agriculture, construction and hospitality, there's simply not enough people born in Texas, or across the country for that matter, to fill all those positions," Hammond says.

So with all of these advantages, does Perry get any of the economic credit? Hammond says you bet.

"I think the governor's record is outstanding," he says. "In his 10 years in office, we've seen enormous growth. Through his leadership, we were able to fill the budget gap without any new or additional taxes."

Hammond and Perry say Texas is attractive to businesses because there's no corporate income tax, no state income tax, and environmental and other state regulations on Texas businesses are kept to a minimum. Critics reply that there's a big downside to these policies, as Texas ranks 44th in expenditures per public school pupil and 50th in the number of adults and children who have health insurance.

Dick Lavine, a senior fiscal analyst with the Center for Public Policy Priorities, says the state is tied with Mississippi for the highest percentage of the workforce in minimum wage jobs. His group tracks legislation's impact on middle- and working-class Texans.

"To some extent, people in Texas just do without a lot of the public services that inhabitants of other states enjoy," Lavine says.

An important talking point in Perry's campaign as it relates to his leadership on jobs is the Texas Enterprise Fund. This taxpayer fund was created at Perry's behest to give money directly to corporations as an inducement to either relocate to Texas or, if they're already in the state, to expand. Perry says that by giving away nearly a half-billion dollars, the fund will ultimately create nearly 60,000 jobs.

The Enterprise Fund has come under attack, however. Texas Tea Partiers say funneling hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to corporations and businesses is akin to President Obama's stimulus spending. And Texas newspapers like the Dallas Morning News and the Texas Observer have chronicled in detail how some of the companies receiving Enterprise Fund money have donated generously to Perry's campaign coffers. Perry's staff vigorously deny that there has been any quid pro quo.

What is undeniable is that relative to the rest of the country, Texas is adding the most jobs by far. Unfortunately, it has not been enough. Texas' unemployment rate is at 8.2 percent, higher than the unemployment rate in the highly taxed, highly regulated state of New York. It is also higher than the 7.6 percent unemployment rate of Massachusetts, with its near universal health care, the state once governed by GOP rival Mitt Romney.

http://www.npr.org/2011/08/17/139688463/texas-economy-growing-long-before-gov-rick-perry
 
Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

This chart is interesting. From 2007 to 2010 Texas was responsible for nearly half of all the government jobs added during that period. And while the private sector lost 180K jobs, the government added 125K jobs. That record doesn't seem to match all of Perry's anti-government talk.


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The source of that chart is Jared Bernstein....so should we trust it? :chuckles: He missed badly when he advised the white house that the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8%...he blamed bad data then.



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Re: Gov. Rick Perry: The Candidate Obama Would Fear the Most

Max that chart is pretty much bullshit, but the two articles I posted explain why Texas has had the growth it has.
 

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