2012 Series #4 @ Mariners -|- April 17th, 18th, and 19th.

[Frank Stallone]

I hate these early season small sample sizes. Lowe looked spectacular, then terrible. Tomlin looked terrible and now spectacular.

Good to see they both have the ability to be solid parts of the rotation, though. If Gomez really did figure it out and with Carmona / Barnes available later in the year, we have not only the rotation, but the depth to stay in it.

I mean in his two starts he is 13 IP, 12 H, 5 ER, 14 K, 1 BB. I know he got roughed up early vs. Chicago but since that inning he has gone 12 IP with 1 ER.

Also Lowe gave us two fantastic starts and a 4 run deficit in his third. I'll take 2 out of 3 always.

 

[Huber.]

Tigers
Yankees
Rays
Red Sox
Angels
Rangers
Indians
...........?

Lots of other teams that are on the rise like KC, Oakland, Toronto, and Baltimore has been lucky.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Lots of other teams that are on the rise like KC, Oakland, Toronto, and Baltimore has been lucky.

Baltimore- We've seen that story before.

Toronto has a legit shot. They have a ton of young talent, Jose Bautista and some really good young pitching. This will be their first run, though, and playing in the AL East...I don't see it lasting.

Oakland, we'll see, but the Angels and Rangers will bring them back to earth pretty soon. They cannot hit whatsoever and their pitching isn't even as good as last year.

KC has no pitching. None. They won't be a contender until they get at least 2 good pitchers.

 

[Huber.]

Baltimore- We've seen that story before.

Toronto has a legit shot. They have a ton of young talent, Jose Bautista and some really good young pitching. This will be their first run, though, and playing in the AL East...I don't see it lasting.

Oakland, we'll see, but the Angels and Rangers will bring them back to earth pretty soon. They cannot hit whatsoever and their pitching isn't even as good as last year.

KC has no pitching. None. They won't be a contender until they get at least 2 good pitchers.

That's why I said they have been lucky. While they won't keep it up, they're messing with other teams records.

 

[tristan+kyrie=$]

Toronto was my 8th team but thats a stretch because of the rest of the division

 

[AZ_]

If Henderson Alvarez is for real, and I'm inclined to believe he is...they have a pretty formidable 1-2 punch with he and Romero.

Lord knows they're going to score.

A true 4-team race for that division, and Boston has the worst team they've had in 10 years or so...

 

[MoneyForGyros]

Royals are being the typical Royals, all talk and no bark.

 

[cdt]

The Orioles always come out guns blazing, I'm not buying...

The gap between the Jays Rays and the Yanks and Sawx isn't the mile it once was. I'd love to see either of the first two unseat the Yanks and Sox. Can't stand them, the Yankees and Red Sox could both be fighting over last place and all of their games would still be nationally televised.

 

[AZ_]

Hosmer is a great player, Hall of Fame caliber future star.

But until they get pitching, it won't matter.

They have some nice prospects, but pretending Bruce Chen and Jonathan Sanchez and Luke Hochevar are MLB caliber 1-2-3 is just a fantasy.

Can you believe huber wanted Bruce Chen for $9 million? Thank God that guy isn't calling the shots.

 

[Huber.]

Hosmer is a great player, Hall of Fame caliber future star.

But until they get pitching, it won't matter.

They have some nice prospects, but pretending Bruce Chen and Jonathan Sanchez and Luke Hochevar are MLB caliber 1-2-3 is just a fantasy.

Can you believe huber wanted Bruce Chen for $9 million? Thank God that guy isn't calling the shots.

When did I say $9 million? As someone said in the Cavs forum, you argue like a 6th grader, stop making up stuff. I wanted him for the same price as our official BP practice pitcher Lowe. Lowe is our worst pitcher yet is making the most out of all of them. Have you seen Bruce Chen's stats? Better than old man Lowe's. Chen would have been a better 3rd/4th man than Lowe who throws up 80mph fastballs right down the middle of the plate.

 

[Huber.]

What sucks is that in Cleveland you fight over pitchers like Bruce Chen and Derek Lowe.

 

[AZ_]

Chen would have been a better 3rd/4th man than Lowe who throws up 80mph fastballs right down the middle of the plate.

Glad you have no idea who Bruce Chen is...Bruce Chen is literally THE guy who throws 80 pretty much all the time. He actually throws softer than Lowe, and you said you'd rather have him on this team.

 

[cdt]

Difference is Lowe is throwing 80 because he's 50 and Chen throws 80 because that's all he can throw.

 

[Huber.]

Glad you have no idea who Bruce Chen is...Bruce Chen is literally THE guy who throws 80 pretty much all the time. He actually throws softer than Lowe, and you said you'd rather have him on this team.

He doesn't throw it right down the middle of the plate with no movement like Lowe. Those are called breaking balls. You must not know that since you only know the business side of baseball and not the actual game play.

 

[AZ_]

He doesn't throw it right down the middle of the plate with no movement like Lowe. Those are called breaking balls. You must not know that since you only know the business side of baseball and not the actual game play.

Yeah, Lowe's fastball is averaging 88 this season...but that couldn't make any less difference.

Chen is garbage making 9 million over two years and hasn't pitched more than 155 innings in a year since 2005...