2012 Series #8 @ White Sox -|- May 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

[B Mac]

Lowe teaching these idiots the game of baseball

He and Damon had to be rolling over in their graves.

 

[Mo Fiya]

Ubaldo pitched himself into it but his teammates did nothing to help him out.... at all.

In his defense i wouldn't want to throw a strike either if that's the defense i had behind me. My slow pitch softball team could score 4 runs getting 6 outs and 2 walks.

 

[Huber.]

Hey b00bie I told you the Ubaldo trade was going to be a bust.

 

[polska2211]

RALLY RALLY, THE PITCHERS NAME IS SALE-EE

 

[Real Deal]

I miss Joe Tait for phrases like this.

-Have a goodnight, everybody!

 

[Steve_424]

I think we all had our say in the attendance thread. Can we stop talking about the fans showing up? They aren't going to. Period. It's not the weather. It's not the economy. It's because Cleveland fans are just like almost every other fan base - superb when things are great, mediocre (and that's being nice in our case) when they are not. The fans didn't show up in 2007 when the team won 96 games, led the Majors in walk-off wins, and came one out away from the World Series. They didn't show up last season, when the Indians were in 1st place for the first half of the season and contending until August. They aren't showing up this year. The Indians could sweep this series, winning every game 20-0, and they'd still be lucky to draw 25,000 this weekend.

That's one of the realities we're going to have to accept as an Indians fan:

1) Attendance will be average at best, and mediocre most years, regardless of how the team performs
2) The Indians will not be in on any major free agents because they can't afford to be, and most of them don't want to play in Cleveland anyhow
3) Many of our favorite players will one day leave because we cannot afford to keep them
4) This team will need to build through the draft, retain young core players for a few years beyond original team control, and try to win in "contending windows"

If you can handle that, please stay and discuss the Cleveland Indians. If you can't please go elsewhere.

 

[Damage]

Hey b00bie I told you the Ubaldo trade was going to be a bust.

Ubaldo looks terrible, but let's not pretend Pomeranz or White have done anything, cause they've been downright awful as well.

 

[Steve_424]

Hey b00bie I told you the Ubaldo trade was going to be a bust.

Pomeranz is really lighting it up in Colorado. Far too early to judge that trade, even as bad as Ubaldo's looked.

 

[redscoon]

It's about time to make up an injury for Ubaldo and plant hiim on the DL until he can get his shit figured out. He's not even a league average starter right now and is lucky to get you 6 innings without throwing 120 pitches. He gets to two strikes and can't put anybody away since he has zero control and no velocity. At least give me a guy who is going to make a team beat him with hits instead of walking a guy an inning.

 

[Damage]

I think we all had our say in the attendance thread. Can we stop talking about the fans showing up? They aren't going to. Period. It's not the weather. It's not the economy. It's because Cleveland fans are just like almost every other fan base - superb when things are great, mediocre (and that's being nice in our case) when they are not. The fans didn't show up in 2007 when the team won 96 games, led the Majors in walk-off wins, and came one out away from the World Series. They didn't show up last season, when the Indians were in 1st place for the first half of the season and contending until August. They aren't showing up this year. The Indians could sweep this series, winning every game 20-0, and they'd still be lucky to draw 25,000 this weekend.

That's one of the realities we're going to have to accept as an Indians fan:

1) Attendance will be average at best, and mediocre most years, regardless of how the team performs
2) The Indians will not be in on any major free agents because they can't afford to be, and most of them don't want to play in Cleveland anyhow
3) Many of our favorite players will one day leave because we cannot afford to keep them
4) This team will need to build through the draft, retain young core players for a few years beyond original team control, and try to win in "contending windows"

If you can handle that, please stay and discuss the Cleveland Indians. If you can't please go elsewhere.

Funny you bring this up, as I just had a conversation regarding this exact thing with Andrew Miller (assistant to Shapiro)

The Indians have to get innovative with their ticket sales initiative. The weather and high school/college kids still in school doesn't help, but it starts with marketing their young, star players like Kipnis & Santana.

The NFL and the NBA do it right. Baseball, for whatever reason, doesn't promote their young stars

 

[Jezzar]

At least Kipnis is looking like he's gonna be a solid 2nd baseman in this league.

 

[Huber.]

Pomeranz is really lighting it up in Colorado. Far too early to judge that trade, even as bad as Ubaldo's looked.

It doesn't matter how they do in the majors. White most likely wouldn't be hurt if he was here and Pomeranz would still be in AAA lighting up. We then could have traded them this year for someone better than the corpse of Ubaldo.

 

[Steve_424]

Funny you bring this up, as I just had a conversation regarding this exact thing with Andrew Miller (assistant to Shapiro)

The Indians have to get innovative with their ticket sales initiative. The weather and high school/college kids still in school doesn't help, but it starts with marketing their young, star players like Kipnis & Santana.

The NFL and the NBA do it right. Baseball, for whatever reason, doesn't promote their young stars

I actually think they do a pretty good job of marketing, but agree more can be done for the individual players. The "What If?" campaign is wonderful. The things they have set up for kids is great. I just don't think we'll see Progressive Field rocking unless the Indians are in the playoffs or they have fireworks every night.

 

[elcheato]

The only thing marketable in baseball for players is a ridiculously high batting average, home runs and power arms. Speed to some extent as well.

 

[polska2211]

what a weak swing.