2014-2015 National Champs

[col63onel]

Yeah, a two-loss SEC team isn't getting in over OSU.

As much as those who relentlessly scream about SEC bias would like to be vindicated, the odds of that actually happening would be beyond remote.

The only thing OSU needs help with is the SEC cannibalizing themselves and two of Oregon, TCU, Baylor and KSU to lose one more time.

KSU has 2 losses. They are out.

 

[Steve_424]

Why does it matter if teams were ranked at prior points? Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and WVU have performed nothing like top 25 teams. Oklahoma is only still ranked because they beat Alabama in last year's sugar bowl. Minnesota has been as good or better than all those teams this year.

Heck, Virginia Tech was ranked 17th at one point, so I guess our loss to them isn't bad



This is inaccurate. Indiana beat the current SEC east leader on the road. Nebraska beat Miami. I know a few others have won.

Sagarin has the B1G East equal with the Pac12 N (Oregon) and solidly ahead of the ACC Coastal (FSU), plus OSU will face 3 of the top 4 in the West if they win out. If you are bringing up conference surpremacy, you could make an argument for OSU over Oregon or FSU if they lose a game.

You are correct on the record vs Power Five - although it's still not good.

Let's simplify...Strength of Schedule is listed next to each team:

1) Miss St (43)
2) FSU (45)
3) Oregon (13)
4) Alabama (4)
5) TCU (36)
6) Baylor (60)
7) Arizona State (16)
8) Ohio State (53)
9) Auburn (1)
10) Ole Miss (7)
11) Nebraska (84)


The only teams with an easier SOS are Nebraska and Baylor.

 

[Ohio]

Yeah, a two-loss SEC team isn't getting in over OSU.

As much as those who relentlessly scream about SEC bias would like to be vindicated, the odds of that actually happening would be beyond remote.

The only thing OSU needs help with is the SEC cannibalizing themselves and two of Oregon, TCU, Baylor and KSU to lose one more time.

Edit: Nevermind, colonel got it.

 

[Ohio]

I still eliminate two weeks of non-conference play and go with a 12 team playoff with 2 at-larges.

1 - Win your Conference, get a shot
2 - Less debate (committee only votes on two at-larges)
3 - Replace two throwaway games (blowout money games) with important playoffs games
4 - Every single team gets a shot to make the playoff when they start their season, regardless of preseason rank, conference, media bias, etc.

Week One

#5 Alabama vs #12 Georgia Southern
#6 TCU vs #11 Toledo
#7 Ohio State vs #10 Memphis
#8 Marshall vs #9 Colorado State

Byes: #1-Mississippi State, #2-Florida State, #3-Oregon, #4-Baylor

Week Two

#1 Missisippi State vs Marshall/Colorado State winner
#2 Florida State vs Ohio State/Memphis winner
#3 Oregon vs TCU/Toledo winner
#4 Baylor vs Alabama/Georgia Southern winner

Week Three

Miss. St. vs Marshall/Colorado St. winner vs Baylor vs Alabama/Georgia Southern winner
Florida St. vs OSU/Memphis winner vs Oregon vs TCU/Toledo winner

Week Four

National Championship


Playoff Rankings

1-Mississippi State (SEC Champion)
2-Florida State (ACC Champion)
3-Oregon (PAC 12 Champion)
4-Baylor (Big 12 Champion)
5-Alabama (At Large)
6-TCU (At Large)
7-Ohio State (Big 10 Champion)
8-Marshall (C-USA Champion)
9-Colorado State (MWC Champion)
10-Memphis (AAC Champion)
11-Toledo (MAC Champion)
12-Georgia Southern (Sun Belt Champion)

I know you're a MAC guy and all, and that's cool. But this will never happen.

 

[col63onel]

You are correct on the record vs Power Five - although it's still not good.

Let's simplify...Strength of Schedule is listed next to each team:

1) Miss St (43)
2) FSU (45)
3) Oregon (13)
4) Alabama (4)
5) TCU (36)
6) Baylor (60)
7) Arizona State (16)
8) Ohio State (53)
9) Auburn (1)
10) Ole Miss (7)
11) Nebraska (84)


The only teams with an easier SOS are Nebraska and Baylor.

If you are comparing teams right now, then yes, OSU would not be in. But at least 2 teams ahead of them will lose, and OSU's SOS will improve.

 

[Ohio]

There's absolutely a chance a conference championship win over a top 10 Nebraska could boost us over the Big 12 champion...especially if that team is TCU, considering they aren't even truly the champion of their conference..

 

[Steve_424]

I know you're a MAC guy and all, and that's cool. But this will never happen.

Oh I know. The Power Five aren't going to do anything to help the other conferences in any way, shape, or form. Giving the other conferences a fair shot isn't on their "To Do" list - they'll continue to look for ways to widen the gap instead.

A more realistic solution might be for the Power Five to just separate from the rest, which I'd be completely fine with. The current setup is the stupidest in all of sports (both collegiate and professional).

 

[Steve_424]

If you are comparing teams right now, then yes, OSU would not be in. But at least 2 teams ahead of them will lose, and OSU's SOS will improve.

The nightmare scenario for Ohio State IMO is Nebraska losing to Wisconsin next week. They absolutely need Nebraska to be seen as a major win (should they defeat them in the Big Ten Title game).

So unless there's a pretty unexpected upset, you'll have Florida State, Mississippi State or Alabama, Oregon or Arizona State, TCU, Baylor, and Ohio State as your contenders for the Playoffs.

It's not unrealistic, but they'll certainly need a lot of help.

 

[col63onel]

The nightmare scenario for Ohio State IMO is Nebraska losing to Wisconsin next week. They absolutely need Nebraska to be seen as a major win (should they defeat them in the Big Ten Title game).

So unless there's a pretty unexpected upset, you'll have Florida State, Mississippi State or Alabama, Oregon or Arizona State, TCU, Baylor, and Ohio State as your contenders for the Playoffs.

It's not unrealistic, but they'll certainly need a lot of help.

Wouldn't call it a nightmare. Will still be a potentially 10 win Wisconsin team ranked in the top 15.

The West champ having 8 wins is a nightmare scenario.

 

[Ohio]

Still can't believe Wisconsin choked that game against LSU...that was pathetic

And they lost to Northwestern...yikes.

 

[Rich]

Wouldn't call it a nightmare. Will still be a potentially 10 win Wisconsin team ranked in the top 15.

The West champ having 8 wins is a nightmare scenario.

But let's say Wisconsin beats Nebraska. Now stack up beating Wisconsin vs. Baylor or TCU beating Oklahoma. Oklahoma's 3 losses are against Baylor, TCU, and Kansas State. Meanwhile you've got Wisconsin losing to Northwestern. I'd say a win in Oklahoma (by Baylor) is better than beating that Wisconsin team in the title game.

Nebraska has to win that game and come in to the Big Ten title game with one loss.

 

[col63onel]

But let's say Wisconsin beats Nebraska. Now stack up beating Wisconsin vs. Baylor or TCU beating Oklahoma. Oklahoma's 3 losses are against Baylor, TCU, and Kansas State. Meanwhile you've got Wisconsin losing to Northwestern. I'd say a win in Oklahoma (by Baylor) is better than beating that Wisconsin team in the title game.

Nebraska has to win that game and come in to the Big Ten title game with one loss.

And Wisconsin would have a win against Nebraska and Oklahoma's best win would be against WVU. And that assumes Oklahoma wins out. A 3 loss Wisconsin could very easily be ranked ahead of a 3 loss Oklahoma. And that is a worst casr scenario.

Not to mention Baylor's best OOC win was Buffalo.

 

[Ohio]

Not to mention Baylor's best OOC win was Buffalo.

Good point. OSU got ROASTED for their weak OOC last year. Literally all of college football was jumping us...we didn't get to #2 until the last week of the season because we were one of two undefeated teams.

Hopefully Baylor gets the same treatment.

 

[redscoon]

There will almost certainly be upsets still to come. TCU at Texas seems like a possibility. Baylor has a tough test against Kansas State. FSU has been flirting with trouble and Florida has been showing a pulse lately.

If OSU wins out, I think they will be in. A close Miss State loss to Bama would hurt as that would open the door for two SEC teams.

I'm not too worried about the Big 12 teams. The money factor always creep in when the choice isnt obvious and OSU sells much better than Baylor and TCU.

I only see OSU getting left out to dry if Oregon, Bama and FSU run the table with Miss State only dropping a close one in Tuscaloosa.

 

[AZ_]

Florida State giving up just 2.5 points to Miami this weekend.

Something is certainly up with that.