2015 College Football Season/Playoff Thread

[Chris]

It's not simply the timing of the loss. OSU only looked like a top 4 team in the country AFTER losing to MSU. In other words, OSU looked like a top 4 team in the country for two games, one of which was a bowl game.

Had OSU played up to the level of talent on the roster the entire season, undoubtedly they'd be in. Top to bottom, they might have come into the year with the most talent of any team in the country.
Had they dominated the rest of the season and still had the close loss to MSU, they might have had a chance to get in. However, when it takes you 11 weeks to finally play up to expectations, you're not going to get rewarded over teams with superior resumes.

They definitely looked like a top 4 team in the country before Michigan week, in more than one game, except it was against inferior competition. Then there were weeks where they looked pretty mediocre, again, against inferior competition. But the same could be said for almost anybody. Didn't this squad win like 38-0 against Hawaii and people said they looked like ass? Kind of lends credence to the whole "Nothing will ever be good enough" thing that Meyer was saying, and the notion that expectations were so high they were never going to reach them.

 

[col63onel]

Big Ten went 5-5. Didn't do well vs the SEC and the two Title Game participants got housed. OTOH, OSU and Michigan dominated ND and the SEC East Champ.

The Big Ten West kinda sucks. Nebraska really needs to get it's shit together. Iowa and NW are nice programs, but aren't perennial New Year's Day bowl teams. Wisconsin will always be solid. If Michigan and PSU are really on the upswing, moving MSU to the West would do wonders for balance.

 

[Tornicade]

Iowa is embarrassing. I knew they were too big for their britches.

It's not simply the timing of the loss. OSU only looked like a top 4 team in the country AFTER losing to MSU. In other words, OSU looked like a top 4 team in the country for two games, one of which was a bowl game.

Had OSU played up to the level of talent on the roster the entire season, undoubtedly they'd be in. Top to bottom, they might have come into the year with the most talent of any team in the country.
Had they dominated the rest of the season and still had the close loss to MSU, they might have had a chance to get in. However, when it takes you 11 weeks to finally play up to expectations, you're not going to get rewarded over teams with superior resumes.

Osu could of beat every team 64-0 nothing lost to Michigan state and would not have been in the playoff.

I'm not sure why people don't understand this

 

[Stark]

Osu could of beat every team 64-0 nothing lost to Michigan state and would not have been in the playoff.

I'm not sure why people don't understand this

I'm not saying we deserved to be in over Iowa/Michigan State. We didn't.

I just knew that Iowa was playing in over their heads all season and were going to get embarrassed by Stanford.

 

[Tornicade]

Big Ten went 5-5. Didn't do well vs the SEC and the two Title Game participants got housed. OTOH, OSU and Michigan dominated ND and the SEC East Champ.

The Big Ten West kinda sucks. Nebraska really needs to get it's shit together. Iowa and NW are nice programs, but aren't perennial New Year's Day bowl teams. Wisconsin will always be solid. If Michigan and PSU are really on the upswing, moving MSU to the West would do wonders for balance.

the selection is done before the bowl games.

I'm not saying we deserved to be in over Iowa/Michigan State. We didn't.

I just knew that Iowa was playing in over their heads all season and were going to get embarrassed by Stanford.

Under the playoff system this will happen a lot since you have 5 major conferences competing for 4 spots,. Your gonna have a conference champion facing a division champion and conference runner up.

Also with the imbalance of bowl match ups and a month to prepare scores are gonna be more lopsided compared to when teams only have a week to prepare.

This is the way the big ten and other conferences set things up when they added teams and went to two divisions.

A big ten North and south would of been
North
Michigan
Michigan state
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota

South
Ohio state
Northwestern
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
Indiana

However there was a lot of backlash because the "game" was in jeopardy.

Under the current alignment 4 of the top 6 programs in the big ten historically are all competing with Ohio state for one spot in the championship game.
Had they gone with the initial alignment OSU would of been practically guaranteed a big ten championship appearance every year.

 

[col63onel]

the selection is done before the bowl games.

What selection?

 

[Rich]

You just made the point inadvertently. The committee has to justify things. I think every reasonable fan knows Ohio State is better than MSU. Just like every reasonable fan knows Alabama is better than Mississippi. The justification process in this case yielded a lopsided field.

I've always felt the timing of the loss in college football had way too much impact. It killed OSU this year. Last year, they lost to a far worse team but it didn't matter because they did it early. That's part of the reason I think the field needs expanded. If two top teams meet late in the year, one of them is out of the picture and we "justifiably" put a worse team in instead.

Eh, these were the same type of things being written about by all sorts of people prior to the '02 National Title game. How many analysts said OSU didn't belong in that game and weren't one of the two best teams in the country. That's why the people choosing (at that time it was computers) must do so based on actual regular season results and not how we "feel" about the teams in general.

 

[Cavsfan1985]

the selection is done before the bowl games.

Under the playoff system this will happen a lot since you have 5 major conferences competing for 4 spots,. Your gonna have a conference champion facing a division champion and conference runner up.

Also with the imbalance of bowl match ups and a month to prepare scores are gonna be more lopsided compared to when teams only have a week to prepare.

This is the way the big ten and other conferences set things up when they added teams and went to two divisions.

A big ten North and south would of been
North
Michigan
Michigan state
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska
Minnesota

South
Ohio state
Northwestern
Penn State
Rutgers
Maryland
Indiana

However there was a lot of backlash because the "game" was in jeopardy.

Under the current alignment 4 of the top 6 programs in the big ten historically are all competing with Ohio state for one spot in the championship game.
Had they gone with the initial alignment OSU would of been practically guaranteed a big ten championship appearance every year.

I wonder if they look at this again. A lot more Money with OSU being on the south side. When will the big ten realize the confrence is only as good as OSU when it comes to football.

 

[Ohio]

TCU was down 31-0.

It is 31-28 now with 2 minutes left, TCU ball.

Would tie the biggest comeback in bowl history.

Edit: OT now. 31-31.

TCU won in Triple OT.

 

[col63onel]

B12 was on its way to 1-5 with all 5 losses by 20+. WVU can give them a respectable 3-4 record.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

If WVU and Bama win now, I win some good money in a pool. I had written TCU off when Boykin went out, but now I am back in the game!

 

[Ohio]

DeShaun Watson just dropped a goddamn dime. Holy shit.

7-7. We might finally get a good game this bowl season.

 

[Ohio]

DeShaun Watson looking like Vince Young did 10 years ago.

 

[col63onel]

Was Dabo really trying to argue that the receiving team has to touch the ball 1st on an onside kick?

 

[BimboColesHair]

Was Dabo really trying to argue that the receiving team has to touch the ball 1st on an onside kick?

Yeah, not sure what he's arguing there...no offsides either...big stones play by Saban though