2015 Game #1 -|- #1 Ohio State vs. Virginia Tech -|- September 7th, 2015 @ 8:00 PM

[Ohio]

Some (including myself) were rightfully upset about the boneheaded playcalling in the 2nd quarter.

Woopty do.

 

[Chris]

Some (including myself) were rightfully upset about the boneheaded playcalling in the 2nd quarter.

Woopty do.

True.

Pretty legitimate gripe IMO.

 

[AZ_]

Correction: True Fans (TM).

In all seriousness not sure anyone actually thought we were gonna lose last night. People are always gonna freak out, it's just part of being a sports fan.

Really think it's a shame people believe this has to be true.

Shouldn't be that hard to watch a game without freaking out and overreacting to the action.

Kind of sad, really.

 

[Chris]

Really think it's a shame people believe this has to be true.

Shouldn't be that hard to watch a game without freaking out and overreacting to the action.

Kind of sad, really.

I mean, I guess.

What were people saying last night that was so stupid and irrational? I thought there were some valid complaints.

 

[Surge]

Lol, I freak out play by play. But I'm just a lifelong fan.

Elliot fumbles punt- expletive flies.

Braxton spins past two defenders- more expletives fly (much different tone).

I can't flatline when I watch the Cavs (sans tank years, which was comedy gold), Browns, or Bucks.

I wasn't worried about the game at halftime. Had we been down 17-14 halfway through the 4th, I would have started getting stressed.

 

[AZ_]

I mean, I guess.

What were people saying last night that was so stupid and irrational? I thought there were some valid complaints.

I consider some on here to be the most rational of the irrational, but read a game thread on one of the major OSU sites.

It's a goddamn trainwreck that makes gamethreads on RCF look like an Algonquin roundtable.

 

[Chris]

I consider some on here to be the most rational of the irrational, but read a game thread on one of the major OSU sites.

It's a goddamn trainwreck that makes gamethreads on RCF look like an Algonquin roundtable.

Only one I view is Buckeye Planet and even then I don't really post there or even view often.

I know Cavs game threads on here can get bad. Same with Browns ones, but I can't say I blame anybody for that.

I think the only point I truly got livid last night was the fuck up on the punt return. Primarily because I remember it being such an issue last year.

 

[AZ_]

Only one I view is Buckeye Planet and even then I don't really post there or even view often.

I know Cavs game threads on here can get bad. Same with Browns ones, but I can't say I blame anybody for that.

I think the only point I truly got livid last night was the fuck up on the punt return. Primarily because I remember it being such an issue last year.

Rest assured, even I uttered a passive aggressive "Jesus fuckin Christ" when Elliott muffed the punt.

 

[Surge]

Only one I view is Buckeye Planet and even then I don't really post there or even view often.

I know Cavs game threads on here can get bad. Same with Browns ones, but I can't say I blame anybody for that.

I think the only point I truly got livid last night was the fuck up on the punt return. Primarily because I remember it being such an issue last year.

Yeah, that's the fun. You can sit there and be pissed and still not be irrational.

I'm sure you were pissed at Elliot, thought "WTF just catch a punt Buckeyes..." But you never thought Elliot sucks or our season is over or Urbz is losing it....

The over dramatic ones are the ones that piss me off (like Boobie as well).

 

[Ohio]

The special teams definitely need some work though. That has been a constant weakness in the Urban era. And was pretty much a disaster again last night.

That, and turnovers need to be cleaned up.

And then...well, we probably have perfection.

 

[BimboColesHair]

The special teams definitely need some work though. That has been a constant weakness in the Urban era. And was pretty much a disaster again last night.

That, and turnovers need to be cleaned up.

And then...well, we probably have perfection.

Meh, special teams we're awesome to end the season last year. Consistent kickoffs into the corner and coverage that downed most of them inside the 25, quite a few punts downed inside the 5 from Cameron Johnston that I can remember just off of the top of my head, Nuernberger was a lot better than he was earlier in the year, and Marshall became pretty reliable returning punts after the Minnesota debacle.

Not all too worried about the miscues in game 1 given who we were missing who contributes on special teams.

 

[Otsego Mar]

I mean, I guess.

What were people saying last night that was so stupid and irrational? I thought there were some valid complaints.

I recall some idiot saying JT would start (no, not Josh Tomlin) and Cardale would get reps in garbage time.

I think stupid and irrational makes sense.

 

[Lee]

As a Purdue fan, i think OSU did us a favor. The backup QB looks like crap and we play VT in WL in 2 weeks.

 

[Huber.]

As a Purdue fan, i think OSU did us a favor. The backup QB looks like crap and we play VT in WL in 2 weeks.

Now you guys will only lose by 24

 

[Jordan]

Nobody is arguing that it is. Though I don't recall many QBs with as little experience as CJ has having any success at the NFL level.

Right, which if you read my post, I said you weren't arguing it. But, indeed, people do. I'm on a football fan forum too and that is everyone's favorite barometer.

In addition, Tom Brady started 25 games, which, assuming Cardale starts every game this season, is between 4-7 more games. Joe Flacco had 26 starts. So, at what point is the brightline? I obviously haven't seen a quarterback drafted with as few starts as Jones that has had success, but unless you can find a brightline with logical that demonstrates why that is the case, I don't understand the argument.

I wasn't comparing them as players. So there's also that.

But you did? You said, and I quote here, "And believing in big games against elite defenses has some sort of translation to the NFL is how you end up with people thinking Johnny Manziel is a first round selection." So you did compare people wanting to draft Cardale -- or the rationale established for wanting to draft Cardale -- to that which existed for Johnny. My point is that is a ridiculous comparison because the two QBs couldn't be further apart. The rationale for drafting Johnny was entirely emotional, as he had nearly no NFL intangibles. The rationale for drafting Cardale has everything to do with his NFL-like qualities.

You can always find exceptions to the rule, and nobody is arguing that it's the only barometer. But there is clear correlation to experience, combining that with the right talent is usually the recipe for success.

But these aren't strict "exceptions" because I came up with those six without having to think of anything. I guarantee you, after doing a bit of research, I can find a lot more. And, if I'm correct, five out of those six were first round picks. So clearly, people who scout for a living, thought they were talented. So the whole statement that both a lot of college starts needs to be mixed with talent is, frankly, meaningless. Each quarterback is different and no strict rule should be applied.

Now, if I am misunderstanding you, and you are saying college starts is a -- read, not "the" -- tool to evaluate quarterbacks, and that is a negative against Cardale, then I totally see where you are coming from. But if you are trying to use it as evidence why any team drafting Cardale in the first would be doing so mainly because of hype (which is how I'm reading it, correct me if I'm wrong), then I take issue with that.