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2015 Series #35 -|- Indians @ Angels -|- August 3rd, 4th, and 5th

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He's fat, and he's terrible.

And he's batting .170

I don't give a shit what anybody does in the minors.
Just let the apologists have their say.

I'm sure they said the same shit about Jason Donald.
 
Just let the apologists have their say.

I'm sure they said the same shit about Jason Donald.

The apologists?

The kid is 22 years old. He was a 2-win player last year in the Major Leagues at the age of 21.

Sorry I have enough common sense to realize the kid might have SOME future value in this organization despite a rough sophomore season.
 
Fire it up!

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People like to bring up WAR alot, Jose has a -0.3, but he gets a pass because he's almost 23 years old.
 
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Speaking of common sense, check that funny rating I gave ya Eddy.
 
People like to bring up WAR alot, Jose has a -0.3, but he gets a pass because he's almost 23 years old.

Who's giving him a pass? I've acknowledged numerous times he's having a rough season.

However, I'm not willing to dismiss his 2014 season where he was an above average SS, analytically. If he gets back to that level, or beyond, he's a very valuable player who can fill-in at 6 different positions.
 
Who's giving him a pass? I've acknowledged numerous times he's having a rough season.

However, I'm not willing to dismiss his 2014 season where he was an above average SS, analytically. If he gets back to that level, or beyond, he's a very valuable player who can fill-in at 6 different positions.
No, you just like having a different opinion instead of coming out and saying he is a bum.

Maybe one day you can pat yourself on the back again because you stuck by Jose Ramirez.
 
No, you just like having a different opinion instead of coming out and saying he is a bum.

Yep you're right, let's just give up on every player whose ever had a bad season. They all suck and have no future value.

Unreal.
 
Yep you're right, let's just give up on every player whose ever had a bad season. They all suck and have no future value.

Unreal.
Oh I'm sorry, were we supposed to stick by Jason Donald and his -0.2 WAR as well?
 
Yep you're right, let's just give up on every player whose ever had a bad season. They all suck and have no future value.

Unreal.

Dude, don't even bother with some of these people. You can't look at anything with a semi-optimistic stance without being called "an apologist". Doesn't matter how much logic or statistical evidence you use, it'll still happen. Losing brings out some terrible, terrible posters and posting in the Indians threads.
 
Brantley slacking on it.
 

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