2015 Series #40 -|- Indians @ Yankees -|- August 20th, 21st, 22nd & 23rd

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[Derek]

I had no idea, he just looks so skinny, but he has a really quick swing. I can see him hitting 25-30 home runs in a given season. He's also great at stealing bases, we've just yet to see it too.

Finally! The Indians hit on a top pick. hahaha

Future is very bright with him though.

I don't think you realize how much 25-30 HRs is in today's MLB. If he becomes a 15-20 HR guy, I'll be ecstatic.

 

[godfather]

I don't think you realize how much 25-30 HRs is in today's MLB. If he becomes a 15-20 HR guy, I'll be ecstatic.

I said in a given season, not as if he's going to do that his entire career, season after season.

He's 5'11 and 190. He'll probably put on another 10 pounds as his body develops more. He's just 21, his body isn't done, he'll get even stronger.

That's not exactly out of the real of possibilities of him having that kind of out break out year down the line.

 

[Derek]

I said in a given season, not as if he's going to do that his entire career, season after season.

He's 5'11 and 190. He'll probably put on another 10 pounds as his body develops more. He's just 21, his body isn't done, he'll get even stronger.

That's not exactly out of the real of possibilities of him having that kind of out break out year down the line.

It just seems extrememly unrealistic to me. 25-30 HRs, even just in a given season, is a lot. He has some pop, but it takes plus power to hit that many HRs.

 

[godfather]

It just seems extrememly unrealistic to me. 25-30 HRs, even just in a given season, is a lot. He has some pop, but it takes plus power to hit that many HRs.

Derek Jeter hit 24 for a season, he doesn't strike me as having anything close to plus power. You don't need to have plus power to hit some home runs for one particular season. To hit 30 plus at a regular basis you usually do, but I wasn't making that case for Lindor.

Jacob Ellsbury has 32 a few years back, not exactly a big time slugger himself.

If you have a short swing, quick wrists, and can get out in front of the ball fast, you don't need a ton of strength to hit the ball out of the park.

I don't think I was seriously making the case of him being a big time home run hitter throughout his career.

Hell, Brantley hit 20 last year, and he's not a home run hitter at all. Sometimes a good hitter can just be in that much of a groove for a particular season, and the ball just jumps off their bat better than usual.

 

[Derek]

Derek Jeter hit 24 for a season, he doesn't strike me as having anything close to plus power. You don't need to have plus power to hit some home runs for one particular season. To hit 30 plus at a regular basis you usually do, but I wasn't making that case for Lindor.

Jacob Ellsbury has 32 a few years back, not exactly a big time slugger himself.

If you have a short swing, quick wrists, and can get out in front of the ball fast, you don't need a ton of strength to hit the ball out of the park.

I don't think I was seriously making the case of him being a big time home run hitter throughout his career.

Hell, Brantley hit 20 last year, and he's not a home run hitter at all. Sometimes a good hitter can just be in that much of a groove for a particular season, and the ball just jumps off their bat better than usual.

So your point is that Lindor could have a fluky HR season somewhere along the way? Seems like a weird point to make. Odds are heavily against it regardless. Just be happy with a little pop and a dozen HRs or so.

 

[godfather]

So your point is that Lindor could have a fluky HR season somewhere along the way? Seems like a weird point to make. Odds are heavily against it regardless. Just be happy with a little pop and a dozen HRs or so.

How exactly? Explain how the odds are heavily against him. These are just blank statements.

Having these kind of out burst productions, from quality hitting talents like Lindor is extremely unrealistic? No offense, but how long have you been watching baseball?

It actually happening, and seeing it as plausible are two different things. I don't know why you're getting so technical over something said is passing, not something said with great distinction of thinking it's "definitely" going to happen.

You are taking that statement literally, like a prediction of it going to happen. I never said that.


And as it being completely unrealistic of thinking it can't happen is just kind silly to me.

We're talking about a mostly left hitting baseball player, where the left field walls in a lot of these newer ball parts are just 325 feet. That's not very far, man. This so plus power you pointed needed to hit the ball that far? Seriously?

 

[Derek]

How exactly? Explain how the odds are heavily against him. These are just blank statements.

Having these kind of out burst productions, from quality hitting talents like Lindor is extremely unrealistic? No offense, but how long have you been watching baseball?

It actually happening, and seeing it as plausible are two different things. I don't know why you're getting so technical over something said is passing, not something said with great distinction of thinking it's "definitely" going to happen.

You are taking that statement literally, like a prediction of it going to happen. I never said that.


And as it being completely unrealistic of thinking it can't happen is just kind silly to me.

We're talking about a mostly left hitting baseball player, where the left field walls in a lot of these newer ball parts are just 325 feet. That's not very far, man. This so plus power you pointed needed to hit the ball that far? Seriously?

Odds are heavily against it because he's not a power guy. If all it took was being LH to have a shot at 25+ HRs, you'd think we'd have a couple more over the last few years.

Just appreciate Lindor for what he is.

 

[godfather]

Odds are heavily against it because he's not a power guy. If all it took was being LH to have a shot at 25+ HRs, you'd think we'd have a couple more over the last few years.

Just appreciate Lindor for what he is.

So the odds are, he will never in his entire career, hit 25 home runs in a season, as left handed hitter (switch hitter, but he bats mostly left handed), because he does not have slugger power? Really?

That's the argument?

If he was a right handed hitter, I'd say okay....

And who said about anyone doing it? It's more about the swing for a left handed hitter, than just sure power. If you get your hands out in front of the ball fast enough, and he does have pretty damn quick hands, it's not that hard to hit a lot of home runs.

Would I bet on it happening at a regularity? No. Not at all. I don't say I think it will happen for certain, just that I can see that kind of production in a given season.

I see him as a 12-18 a year home run hitter through his year. Which probably isn't all that different as you see him.

But having one year where he just sees the ball extremely well, and has that kind of production unrealistic? Come on, 25 home runs as a career high, for a guy with some pop, hitting mostly left handed, at already age 21 displays some power as it is will likely just getting stronger as he ages. That's within possibility of happening.

It's not exactly as if Lindor is really small. 5-11, 190 pounds, that's not puny. His body still will fill out more.

He's never going to be slugger, I get that, I wasn't even making that case.

Shit man, Brady Anderson hit 50 home runs in a year. I get it was the steroid era, he probably was on them, but baseball is a fickle sport up and down, any hitter with sporadic power is capable of bursting out quite a bit for a particular season and having that kind of production. It usually happens at least once, especially with a left handed hitter.

 

[Derek]

Yes, odds are he will never hit 25 HRs in a season. Might get 20 at some point, but even that seems like a bit of a stretch.

I just don't like putting this kind of talk around Lindor. He's not a power hitter, and he doesn't need to be. Just seems like you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Otsego Mar]

Yes, odds are he will never hit 25 HRs in a season. Might get 20 at some point, but even that seems like a bit of a stretch.

I just don't like putting this kind of talk around Lindor. He's not a power hitter, and he doesn't need to be. Just seems like you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Exactly.

He's shown more offensively and defensively than pretty much everyone else on this roster.

 

[godfather]

Why exactly put odds on a player, what he can or can't do, at just age 21? How do we definitely know right now?

It's really hard to fully determine what he can, or can't do. Unless someone is making an absurd prediction like he's going to be Ty Cobb or something ridiculous like that.

Sheeeet, maybe I should have just say like 22-26? I wasn't at all trying to be accurate, or predicting such a thing will happen.

I don't even want him to be a power hitter. I was just making a comment about his surprisingly power burst, in that I could see him having that kind of production in a given season down the line.

I rather Lindor continue to just evolve as a hitter. Good contact hitters are capable of hitting home runs, without even trying.

Imagine how many home runs Santana could hit, if he just wasn't such a shitty hitter, period. Which he is.

I think sometimes people feel those that hit a lot of home runs do so because they have a lot of power. Or a player that has a lot of power, can hit a lot of home runs.

You got to be a good hitter to get it out of the ball park.

Mark McQwire didn't hit for a good average, yes did dope, but he definitely was a really, really good hitter. It's not all strength. Strength is just an added bonus, otherwise any jug head with strength could play in the majors.

The guy has only 14 or whatever amount for a good reason. There's a good with power, but just has been complete shit. And it shows