2015 Series #5 -|- Indians @ White Sox -|- April 20th, 21st, and 22nd.

[Real Deal]

You like taking things out of context. We both know Cespedes isnt a true cleanup hitter.

Those types seem like a dying breed to the Tribe.

 

[AZ_]

You like taking things out of context. We both know Cespedes isnt a true cleanup hitter.

Those types seem like a dying breed to the Tribe.

You're right, but you gotta take risks, and maybe trading Salazar would of been key for a RH cleanup hitter in return.

I'm using your context...



As far as cleanup hitters go, Carlos Santana's .792 OPS would have ranked 5th in the AL amongst cleanup hitters last year.

Guess what, they aren't just a dying breed to the Indians.

 

[Real Deal]

You missed the 2nd quote never said anything about Cespedes being a true cleanup hitter. He's just a RH with pop that that team could really use at the cleanup spot. If you're going to quote me make sure it matches word for word.

Santana's average was also so terriffic in the 1st half and payed off well in the end with barely missing out. A cleanup hitter that walks?

 

[AZ_]

Your quote is accurate, but it's good you've walked it back since then.

Also worth noting:

Yoenis Cespedes vs. LHP

.199/.269/.397/.666
7 HR
17 RBI

 

[Real Deal]

Your quote is accurate, but it's good you've walked it back since then.

Also worth noting:

Yoenis Cespedes vs. LHP

.199/.269/.397/.666
7 HR
17 RBI

Whatever helps you get through your day.

Just for fun though

Cespedes batting 4th:

.270 Avg .320 OBP .480 SLG .800 OPS .310 RISP

Keep thinking that they couldn't use him

 

[Otsego Mar]

We could also get into the fact that Cespedes has been the definition of mediocre in his career as well....But I digress.

It's that time of the year, entering the third week of the season with the Indians playing a touch less than .500.

Every arm chair GM will step away from their relentless bloviating about how terrible the team is to come up with their own ridiculous ideas that no other teams would have accepted this past off-season.

You are the epitome of an arm chair GM and team super fanboi rolled up in 1.

And you're terrible.

 

[AZ_]

Keep thinking that they couldn't use him

I didn't even realize you were arguing a point that I'm not making.

 

[Real Deal]

I'm just saying a lineup of Kipnis-Santana-Brantley-Cespedes as a front four is pretty fucking good. In dream land.

You can put any proven 4th hitter in that spot and it'll look nice. I can make a strong case as to why Santana should really bat 2nd.

 

[AZ_]

Which is nice, but doesn't change the fact the Indians didn't have the assets Boston was looking for in a trade.

So even when we overlook your gross over-rating of Cespedes' abilities, we come back to the fact there wasn't a viable trade offer to get him.

Which was the point, really. Nobody is saying the Indians couldn't use him in the lineup, I'm saying it's a terrible idea to trade big league ready pitching for a guy like Cespedes. He's simply hasn't been a middle of the order guy for the last two years or so.

I'd imagine he'll do better in Detroit, where he can hit 6th (where he probably should be) and hit behind guys who are far more consistent.

 

[macbdog]

Just another circle jerk- Boston wasn't looking for what the Tribe was selling (a talented but unproven and uncertain health wise Salazar). They wanted a proven starter that this team didn't have. In fact it looks like what Boston did was essentially use a guy they didn't want to snag a guy one year early that they were planning to pursue in FA anyway (Porcello). I just don't see where any of this is supposed to be headed. One 25 hr hitter is not going to revamp this lineup, and we still haven't seen the best of Moss yet.

 

[AZ_]

Just another circle jerk- Boston wasn't looking for what the Tribe was selling (a talented but unproven and uncertain health wise Salazar). They wanted a proven starter that this team didn't have. In fact it looks like what Boston did was essentially use a guy they didn't want to snag a guy one year early that they were planning to pursue in FA anyway (Porcello). I just don't see where any of this is supposed to be headed. One 25 hr hitter is not going to revamp this lineup, and we still haven't seen the best of Moss yet.

Who pretty well out-produced Cespedes throughout the last three years.

 

[Pyro]

Fire it up on this chilly night!

 

[Pyro]

CRUSHED
WOW

 

[Stark]

Holy shit. That was a moonshot for Raburn.

 

[Pyro]

Boom boom.