2016 NFL draft, Day Two

[The Human Q-Tip]

My problem is that Kessler - at least on paper - does not seem like he's ready to play right away or that he's capable of beating out RG3. By the time Kessler IS ready to play (for arguments sake, let's say it takes 1 year to get acclimated), the odds are extremely high that the Browns will have drafted another QB, a more highly regarded QB, that will make Kessler more or less irrelevant.

RGIII is a crap shoot. It is entirely possible that he flames out completely. Then what happens?

Kessler is the exact opposite. He won't wow anyone, but he's very smart, accurate, and mature. And I think he'll be ready to play sooner than anyone except Goff.

Think of it this way. If the Browns go 3-13 this year and Kessler never/barely plays - would any of you be comfortable passing on Watson or whoever the top rated QB is because Kessler is already here and is developing? I think the answer is obviously no.

No. But that's assuming your "if" that he doesn't play this year - which i think is unlikely. And whomever we draft next year likely won't be starting right off the bat anyway.

Point is that even if he turns into nothing more than an above-average backup QB, that's still good value at the bottom of the third round.

 

[Binkster]

Two huge differences. 1. Myles Jack is an elite prospect when healthy and would have absolutely started from Day 1 (can't say the same for Kessler on either front) and 2. You only play 1 QB at a time.

RB by committee is all the rage. Teams have four WR sets and 2 TE sets. Teams rotate 5-6 DL and rotate 3-4 pass rushers, teams play a lot of nickel and dime now so you need multiple corners/safeties/hybrid linebackers.

You only play 1 QB.

So if Kessler's not ready or not good enough to start in 2016, and the Browns inevitably address the position with an even better prospect in 2017 -- then what have they done? They've drafted a full time backup with a top 100 pick.

Can you imagine the outrage if they did that at any other position that isn't QB? People would be losing their minds even worse frankly.

Try applying the same "risk" logic against the Kessler pick and come talk to me.

There's little risk in taking a chance on the most important position in sports with your fifth pick in the draft.

 

[MoFlo]

From PFF:

"Had he improved this season he would have had a grade rivaling Goff, but instead he took a major step backwards and looked markedly worse for USC.."

I think it's fair to assume yet another coaching change played at least a good part in him taking a step backwards..

I don't see why he can't make those improvements now, with good and stable (spare me the jokes, by all accounts this regime will get time that others didn't) coaching and the right system

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

They've drafted a full time backup with a top 100 pick.

Can you imagine the outrage if they did that at any other position that isn't QB? People would be losing their minds even worse frankly.

But it is the QB position - that's exactly why it is acceptable.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

From PFF:

"Had he improved this season he would have had a grade rivaling Goff, but instead he took a major step backwards and looked markedly worse for USC.."

I think it's fair to assume yet another coaching change played at least a good part in him taking a step backwards..

More than fair, actually.

 

[Los216]

Hue values accuracy and quick decision making. Kessler does both.

 

[elcheato]

From PFF:

"Had he improved this season he would have had a grade rivaling Goff, but instead he took a major step backwards and looked markedly worse for USC.."

I think it's fair to assume yet another coaching change played at least a good part in him taking a step backwards..

I don't see why he can't make those improvements now, with good and stable (spare me the jokes, by all accounts this regime will get time that others didn't) coaching and the right system

And the thing that separates him from Goff is he doesn't have those Donald Trump hands

 

[Kevalier]

I knew I wouldn't have to wait long for all the "I'm smarter than Hue, this guy sucks, burn down Berea" posts.

Why do you constantly feel the need to bully anyone who dares to criticize the Browns?

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[Sly]

 

[spydy13]

Why do you constantly feel the need to bully anyone who dares to criticize the Browns?

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Is it really so much to ask fans to give this group at least one draft and one season of development before they start shitting on every move they make?

Moflo's post was specifically referring to sentiments he saw across a bunch of places suggesting that Hue should get fired over Kessler. I don't think he has a problem with reasoned criticism.

 

[Spectre]

I'm no Kessler fan but if Hue wants to spend a borderline 4th rounder on a QB he believes in, that's fine with me.

Even in a worst case scenario, that pick isn't enough to discourage us from taking a QB high next year.

If Hue wants us to trust him, I'll trust him on this one.

 

[CBBI]

Even in a worst case scenario, that pick isn't enough to discourage us from taking a QB high next year.

I'd say the worst case scenario is that Kessler flames out after showing he can't play at this level.

What you've described is, to me, the most likely scenario. Which means we lit a 3rd rounder on fire essentially.

 

[Spectre]

I'd say the worst case scenario is that Kessler flames out after showing he can't play at this level.

What you've described is, to me, the most likely scenario. Which means we lit a 3rd rounder on fire essentially.

I think Kessler is a decent backup at the NFL level so even if he's not starter material, I think he can still be of use to us. And if Hue is right then who knows? Have to give him a free pass on his first QB pick.

 

[Walter White]

Here is the presser: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/medi...ess-Conf/eebb5f6a-b2cb-4d10-a84e-e118ba0ca287

I understand the philosophy more when I hear them talk about why they chose who they did, and I really like it. It is clear they want hard working, high character, great locker room guys, that also have proven production. I think that is a smart formula. They all seem to have a lot of potential too.

 

[spydy13]

I think Kessler is a decent backup at the NFL level so even if he's not starter material, I think he can still be of use to us. And if Hue is right then who knows? Have to give him a free pass on his first QB pick.

You mean it might not be a bad idea to have a decent backup going forward when we've never been able to keep a QB healthy for a whole year?