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2019 NBA Trade Deadline

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bboy said:
NBA has a real problem on its hands. Players are no longer honoring their contracts openly and getting anything they want. I'm all for the players having the right to play where they wish but at least finish out your contract. Too much whining from players...so now Davis wont stay anywhere if traded other than LA...well I would let him rot on the bench for the next year and a half...LBJ will be 36 by the time he gets there....have fun with that....Porzingas? dude hasn't played in over a year and e's making demands? Knicks did him a favor landing in a spot on a rising team in the next few years.
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Knicks fans booed him on draft night, and are clearly tanking, good for him wanting to gtfo of that trash franchise
 
bboy said:
NBA has a real problem on its hands. Players are no longer honoring their contracts openly and getting anything they want. I'm all for the players having the right to play where they wish but at least finish out your contract. Too much whining from players...so now Davis wont stay anywhere if traded other than LA...well I would let him rot on the bench for the next year and a half...LBJ will be 36 by the time he gets there....have fun with that....Porzingas? dude hasn't played in over a year and e's making demands? Knicks did him a favor landing in a spot on a rising team in the next few years.
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I generally agree with that, if you sign a contract, you should have to honour it. On the other hand, teams are doing the same, they sign multiple year contracts and then trade the player. It goes both ways, when a contract is signed, both parties are saying "i'm committing to play for this team for the next x years/i'm gonna pay this player y amount for the next x years".

It sucks but if a team has the ability to say "this is not working so we're gonna trade you", a player should have the same right to say "this is not working so i want to be traded".

If the league wants to stop this, they should start making teams/players honour at least a larger percentage of the contract duration with the original player/team, otherwise, this is going to happen and it's in their right.
 
NIkeL said:
It goes both ways, when a contract is signed, both parties are saying "i'm committing to play for this team for the next x years/i'm gonna pay this player y amount for the next x years".
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That's not correct -- players and owners all know that a player under contract can be traded to a different team unless that player negotiated a no trade clause into their contract.

That's why no trade clauses exist - because not being traded while under contract is not the default rule.
 
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bboy said:
NBA has a real problem on its hands. Players are no longer honoring their contracts openly and getting anything they want. I'm all for the players having the right to play where they wish but at least finish out your contract. Too much whining from players...so now Davis wont stay anywhere if traded other than LA...well I would let him rot on the bench for the next year and a half...LBJ will be 36 by the time he gets there....have fun with that....Porzingas? dude hasn't played in over a year and e's making demands? Knicks did him a favor landing in a spot on a rising team in the next few years.
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The NBA is becoming like some weird floating pickup game where people play ball with a different set of buddies every week.

Teams have to stand up to players demanding trades, stop panicking and only move if it makes real sense for them.

I am not as down on the Knicks as others though. Their big asset is Madison Square Garden and MSG and whether that can attract free agents. They weren't going anywhere but mediocrity with Porzingis and their cap space taken up by guys like Courtney Lee. Tank, clear cap, and hope to get Zion + top good free agents is an all or nothing move, but it gives them a much better shot at a championship than sticking with Porzingis and giving him a big contract.
 
This movement might be bad for the league but the paradigm shift in the public opinion of a player's legacy has diminished individual greatness and placed an emphasis on winning championships. Great players terribly mismanaged teams end up watching their peaks wither away and are then eventually labeled a loser. Guys like AD, PG and Porzingis are leaving money behind so they can compete for titles (this was once considered admirable). Now I'm not advocating that they stack the decks like KD, purely unique circumstance that most people on both ends of the spectrum despised, but it is what it is. We lost Kyrie Irving in the beginning of his prime then lost everything after, we as fans can only watch as organizations make one blunder after another. In the end, player movement has made the NBA the most riveting league in my biased opinion and the most entertaining off season (NFL has draft coverage and nothing else). However, if every star continues going out West via FA or trades, then I reserve the right to change my mind LMAO.
 
WorldFreeB said:

Stefan Bondy

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Kyrie Irving has shifted from his commitment to re-signing with the Celtics: “I don’t owe anybody shit.”

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11:07 AM - Feb 1, 2019


Ian Begley

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Kyrie Irving asked if his mindset has changed regarding re-signing with Boston: “Ask me July 1.” He says he’s going to do what’s best for his career.

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11:02 AM - Feb 1, 2019
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Kyrie is so flaky though that there's a non-zero chance that by the close of business today he'll say he wants to finish his career in Boston and Jerry Schisting is his idol.
 
IMO, the NBA as a whole reminds me of the last 20 years of the Browns. Unwatchable bullshit, but impossible to not watch. Much like a car wreck.
 
JDailey23 said:
IMO, the NBA as a whole reminds me of the last 20 years of the Browns. Unwatchable bullshit, but impossible to not watch. Much like a car wreck.
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I was thinking current WWE.
 
cavsfever said:
I am not as down on the Knicks as others though. Their big asset is Madison Square Garden and MSG and whether that can attract free agents.
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It's the oldest arena in the Association, built on the world's worst major train station & with a grand total of TWO NBA titles, both over 45 years ago. The seminal MSG basketball moment was Willis Reed scoring 4 points in Game 7 in 1970. MSG also hosts the NIT which has been utterly irrelevant for at least 50 years.

Basketball in NYC is an utter disaster on all levels. It's the only place that still has a ton of gyms with a running track above the basketball floor which prevents shooting corner threes.

NYC has a tremendous basketball legacy that's now nothing but a source of sadness to the many old basketball fans in the area. It's not unlike the Browns, who made their league's championship game 15 of their first 24 years (through 1969) and 0 for the past 50 years (although there was no team for 3 years). Success was SO long ago.

It's so bad for Knicks fans that BROOKLYN is actually having a fine season under the circumstances. The Nets were long famous for having an even worse ownership / GM / coaching disaster than the Knicks, and now even that is gone.

@ACisKING
 
I actually don't think asking for a trade is the part that is undermining the contract . Saying you won't re-sign with any team but one or tanking your value publicly does. Asking for a trade publicly sucks for the team.
 
JDailey23 said:
IMO, the NBA as a whole reminds me of the last 20 years of the Browns. Unwatchable bullshit, but impossible to not watch. Much like a car wreck.
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I found it VERY EASY not to watch, when LeBron was in Miami. I hardly engaged AT ALL with the league, for 4 years...
 
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