Addressing the hole at center

[crowned1]

I'm very interested in Gobert. Not sure the Jazz would give him up, though. I think they like him quite a bit.

Some rim protection stats so far this season, taken from here: http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/

Gobert does a couple of things well -- block/alter shots and get garbage rebounds/putbacks, with some lobs thrown in there. That's about all we'd need him to do, too. I think he'd be perfect for this team.

Just don't see the Jazz parting with him, though.

thanks for the info..
Yeah I think he would be perfect aswell.

 

[Pioneer10]

I'm very interested in Gobert. Not sure the Jazz would give him up, though. I think they like him quite a bit.

Some rim protection stats so far this season, taken from here: http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/

Gobert does a couple of things well -- block/alter shots and get garbage rebounds/putbacks, with some lobs thrown in there. That's about all we'd need him to do, too. I think he'd be perfect for this team.

Just don't see the Jazz parting with him, though.

Had no idea Dalembert had such good defensive numbers. Always thought he looked better on the court then just a journeyman player hes become but not that much better.

Has anyone seen Biyombo play this year? We need a guy like Chandler ideally. Great on defense, limited on offense but can finish lobs inside. The trick Carlisle has pulled is making Chandler a smart player in Dallas who minimizes his weaknesses and punishes team with his positives. Biyombo has the right size and athletic ability to be a Chandler type and Chandler was definitely a late bloomer

 

[kookoo]

How about taking a stab at Mason Plumlee? He's not playing too well or getting minutes right now Seems to not be going well for him in Brooklyn.

 

[pl4tinum]

I don't think that the Cavs would want Biyombo simply because he's not a well rounded player.

 

[Cavatt]

Biyombo is a shot blocker, but isn't really a basketball player. He could work with the starters I guess because they are such an offensive force.

I know he is long as hell, but isn't he shorter than TT?

 

[Pioneer10]

Biyombo is a shot blocker, but isn't really a basketball player. He could work with the starters I guess because they are such an offensive force.

I know he is long as hell, but isn't he shorter than TT?

Height doesn't matter much when Biyombo's standing reach is 3 inches longer and his wingspan is 4-5 inches longer.

What's intriguing about Biyombo is he seems productive when he's seen court time. He's got a PER of 20 and the second best rebound rate among qualified players right now. His +/- also has been decent

 

[TyGuy]

Height doesn't matter much when Biyombo's standing reach is 3 inches longer and his wingspan is 4-5 inches longer.

What's intriguing about Biyombo is he seems productive when he's seen court time. He's got a PER of 20 and the second best rebound rate among qualified players right now. His +/- also has been decent

Correct, he is actually built very well for a defensive center. He has the lower center of gravity to be able to keep his position in the post. The guy has a ton of strength, and his arms are just ridiculous. He is under 6'9" in shoes but has a standing reach that is almost 9' feet 4 inches. He really is the closest thing I can think of to a young ben wallace.

Charlotte is just in a really unique situation (other than them sucking) where they really need offense and shooters in the worst way. Al Jefferson is their best player and he plays the same spot as biyombo. You really can't pair biyombo with Jefferson either because the spacing would be horrid.

He would be a much better fit with us than just about any team.

 

[Triumph36]

I'm very interested in Gobert. Not sure the Jazz would give him up, though. I think they like him quite a bit.

Some rim protection stats so far this season, taken from here: http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/

Gobert does a couple of things well -- block/alter shots and get garbage rebounds/putbacks, with some lobs thrown in there. That's about all we'd need him to do, too. I think he'd be perfect for this team.

Just don't see the Jazz parting with him, though.

yep, there is absolutely no reason for utah to trade him, and if they did he'd be worth more than dion waiters (lol).

though as noted he is still relatively raw, which isn't exactly ideal anyways.

I don't think that the Cavs would want Biyombo simply because he's not a well rounded player.

god, i truly hope this is not the case. only wanting "well rounded" players is not only stupid, but it's also not even realistic given the cavs assets and their needs (read: well-rounded centers aren't fucking cheap).

the cavs have plenty of offense, and there is always the potential to add more. they need defense. how well biyombo would address that weakness may be up for debate, but passing on him just because he's not good offensively is just silly.

anyway, i mentioned his name elsewhere but i still want to see them push for mahinmi. fills a big need + probably attainable + experienced.

 

[priceFTW]

I'm very interested in Gobert. Not sure the Jazz would give him up, though. I think they like him quite a bit.

Some rim protection stats so far this season, taken from here: http://nyloncalculus.com/stats/rim-protection/

Gobert does a couple of things well -- block/alter shots and get garbage rebounds/putbacks, with some lobs thrown in there. That's about all we'd need him to do, too. I think he'd be perfect for this team.

Just don't see the Jazz parting with him, though.

Gobert is probably two years away from being a real difference maker if everything works out and the Jazz know it and won't get rid of him for cheap if at all.

BTW, it's amazing how well Kaman has played this year seeing what he was doing with the alameda last year. He can't miss jumpers, he's grabbing contested rebounds left and right, and he's defending shots at the rim. Huge get for Portland.

 

[Cavatt]

Have our needs changed now that kyrie is playing defense? Biggs haven't been killing anyone one on one, and dribble penetration has been cut considerably. We still want a weakside shot blocker with length I suppose.

I still want a center like most people, by I also want the guys who are here to play d, which it seems like they are getting there.
I see why Biyimbo is appealing, but it seems like you can only play him with the starters. Not sure he is worth any more than the tpe and a nonexistent second round pick.

 

[jhard]

What type of pick would we need, if we were targeting the wisky Center Frank Kaminsky, in the draft.

Is he a scheduled lottery pick?

 

[priceFTW]

What type of pick would we need, if we were targeting the wisky Center Frank Kaminsky, in the draft.

Is he a scheduled lottery pick?

I've seen him slotted anywhere between 17th and 32nd. I think a lot will depend on his physical and athletic measurables (e.g., reach, wingspan, vert). He's a good post scorer, already possesses NBA 3 point range, is a very good rebounder, don't know how well he'll be able to protect the rim.

Mocks are all over place, but I've seen mocks that have us getting a shot at Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, Dakari Johnson, Norman Powell (great defensive prospect), Hollis-Jefferson (uber athletic wing who can't shoot).

 

[Phills14]

Height doesn't matter much when Biyombo's standing reach is 3 inches longer and his wingspan is 4-5 inches longer.

What's intriguing about Biyombo is he seems productive when he's seen court time. He's got a PER of 20 and the second best rebound rate among qualified players right now. His +/- also has been decent

Biyombo is very similar to Ben Wallace while he was with Washington early in his career. He has no offensive game and really no hope of an offensive game. He wasn't really quite ready to play and Washington didn't know how to use him. Things changed when he was shipped to Orlando then he really took off in Detroit.

I'm really intrigued by Biyombo and would love to see the Cavs take a shot at him.

 

[Pioneer10]

Biyombo is very similar to Ben Wallace while he was with Washington early in his career. He has no offensive game and really no hope of an offensive game. He wasn't really quite ready to play and Washington didn't know how to use him. Things changed when he was shipped to Orlando then he really took off in Detroit.

I'm really intrigued by Biyombo and would love to see the Cavs take a shot at him.

Agree Biyombo seems like a good Moneyball type of move. He doesn't look pretty on the court but he's got the size/length to impact the game which is reflected in his stat. His lack of offense wouldn't be much of an issue here as he would be paired with maybe the best offensive PF in the game. All we'd ask him to crash off the pick and roll and finish lobs inside

 

[TheAdmin]

Keep an eye on Chris Kaman. - edited to add THIS IS NOT A RUMOR just me speculating on what the team likes in a player and contract.