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Why do people here have the Cavaliers giving up all these assets for a guy who is overpaid, on a team that is losing a lot of money and needs to dump money and is in a limited trade market where the Cavaliers have most if not all the leverage?
because the other teams in that "limited trade market" can offer the same expirings we can? And as a result we need to add young talent to put our deal above the rest? Woah, future superstar JJ Hickson is in the deal? That's outrageous!

and maybe because getting someone who is actually young is a hell of a lot more appealing than getting an aging vet who will only be able to contribute for 1-2yrs?

Anyway...

The Sixers have been busy talking and listening to everyone about making a move prior to the Feb. 18 trade deadline.

The player teams are most interested in is Andre Iguodala, according to an NBA source.

Even though the 26-year-old Iguodala is earning $12.2 million this season and is owed $56 million over the next four years, the source said numerous teams are willing to take on the versatile Iguodala’s salary.

But teams have yet to offer enough to entice the Sixers to agree to a deal. And the Sixers apparently are looking for more than just an expiring contract, which would seem to rule out a swap for the Rockets’ Tracy McGrady and his $23 million deal that ends in June.

“Maybe people are posturing and it will pick up as we get closer (to the deadline),” said the source.

Among the Sixers’ potential trading partners are the Cavaliers, Suns and Mavericks — championship contenders willing to pay the league’s dollar-for-dollar luxury tax.

The 16-31 Sixers host the Bulls on Wednesday night.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/new...february/03/teams-interested-in-iguodala.html
 
because the other teams in that "limited trade market" can offer the same expirings we can? And as a result we need to add young talent to put our deal above the rest? Woah, future superstar JJ Hickson is in the deal? That's outrageous!

and maybe because getting someone who is actually young is a hell of a lot more appealing than getting an aging vet who will only be able to contribute for 1-2yrs?

Anyway...



http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/new...february/03/teams-interested-in-iguodala.html

The Sixers can want all they want. Dallas, Phoenix and Cleveland all have other options and all can afford to not get into a bidding war. Dallas isn't giving firsts and whatever young players they like. The Suns don't look like they about to give up Clark, Dragic or even Dudley. None of these teams are desperate for Iguodala

Also, people here conveniently forget Ferry's MO of winning every trade and not giving up pick and young players. As much as Iguodala is overestimated on the board he isn't in the tier of players for which Ferry is willing to give up his assets.

The concept of leverage is completely lost in this thread.
 
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Hands up if you watched Iggy and Sammy play at least 5 times this season or any at all

Not many huh? As I expected.

Okay this is the problem. You people say, Hey I want this guy. He would fit well because he blah blah blah and he blah blah. High chance is that some of you havent watched any of their game this season. I watched 3 6ers games this season. I'm not an expert but it is VERY different to review a player by how he plays live rather than to read it in some summary or watch some game highlights in Youtube. Remember its highlights. They'll only show you the stuff that gets into Sportscenter.

This is my review.

Iggy is good but he isnt an all star. He is a good wing defender but gets blown off vs quicker players. He is good 1 on 1 when the opponent has the ball. I paid close attention to him especially the one vs Lakers. Sometimes I just concentrate on him him and not the ball. He is an above average off ball defender. He sometimes doesnt pay attention to an incoming screener and gets hit. He would then needs to go around to challenge the shot. By then, Kobe released his jump shot and scored. Good thing about him is that he doesnt do stupid hand check fouls.

Offensively, he is a capable shooter. You all know he can drive. His jump shots can get a little shaky. He isnt the best jump shooter. In the 3 games I watched, Iverson handled the ball most of the time. He handled it at times and wasnt stingy about it. He passes well but isnt thread the needle type like Lebron. He sometimes passes the opportunity to shoot by passing the ball. He doesnt have a lot of attempts on the games I watched.

Personally, I dont think Iggy is a #1 scoring type. To me, he is either 2b or 3rd scoring choice. He isnt viewed a number 1 in Philly either. He is a great scoring threat but isnt big enough to be double teamed. To me, he is best at the fast break which we kinda need. The only one who can score consistently on fast breaks are Lebron and Mo. They either score, get fouled or get an and 1. The others are selfish. You can clearly see that Lebron wants the ball back when he passes to them during the start of the fast break, either in the form of an alley op or a pass. Other players can do a proper fast break but they need help, mostly from Lebron. Either through a laser pass or from the defender moving away to cover Lebron.

Iggy too is best during Iso, but not as long as Lebron's. A mini Iso for about 3 seconds creates a lane for him to drive. I dont see him doing Iso in Philly though.

So would he be a good side kick for Lebron? My answer is, if he adapts to it, then a definite yes. He certainly checks all of the prerequisites. He can defend, he drives, great personality, has no history of injuries. He plays perfect seasons and he shows improvements ever year.

I was on the wagon last season that what we need was a SF to play James' position when he sits. We got that with the addition of Moon this year and he clearly helps us. I remembered reading somewhere saying that we lost more games when Moon was out than when we lost both Delonte and Mo. No I dont want him so we can move Bron to the 4. He clearly shows he likes the perimeter better.

Iguodala would be a superb addition to the team after he gets used to the system and the team. Shaq played career lows in the beginning of the season and fans were in uproar to trade him. But look at him now. Same thing would happen to Iggy. Would he gel well? Yeah I think he would. I think he would be buddies with Delonte.

So could we get him? Possibly if Philly is desperate enough. What would I give? No comment. I think this is Ferry's specialty and he would do his best to rob any team he makes a trade with.
 
Among the Sixers’ potential trading partners are the Cavaliers, Suns and Mavericks — championship contenders willing to pay the league’s dollar-for-dollar luxury tax.
What, is this guy stuck in 2007?

J.J. Hickson may not be a burgeoning superstar, but there is no way -- none -- that I give him up for a player like Andre Iguodala. Let's be honest here: Iguodala is not an All-Star. He has never been named to any All-Star team even as an alternate. Yes, he's young, he's 26. But Mo Williams was 25 when we got him and we didn't need to drain our assets to get him. Similar situation: Milwaukee wanted to dump salary and they were willing to dump Mo, who had just signed a big contract the year before.

You didn't see us giving up Varejao or Delonte or Boobie to get him. I'd love Iguodala, I'm all for getting younger, but not at the expense of other young parts. Like Windhorst said, Philly called US. We didn't go looking for a deal. If they want to just dump salary and nothing else, then Ferry's listening. Otherwise, peace.
 
Hands up if you watched Iggy and Sammy play at least 5 times this season or any at all

Ive seen Iguodala play at least 20-25 times since he has been in the NBA and Dalembert probably more.
 
The Sixers can want all they want. Dallas, Phoenix and Cleveland all have other options and all can afford to not get into a bidding war. Dallas isn't giving firsts and whatever young players they like. The Suns don't look like they about to give up Clark, Dragic or even Dudley. None of these teams are desperate for Iguodala

Also, people here conveniently forget Ferry's MO of winning every trade and not giving up pick and young players. As much as Iguodala is overestimated on the board he isn't in the tier of players for which Ferry is willing to give up his assets.

The concept of leverage is completely lost in this thread.
I wasn't posting that article in response to your post, just adding it onto my post as its recent "news."

We have other options? OK, but none are young. And none are good on defense. And none would give LeBron another reason to stay (well, Jamison maybe, but he still doesn't have much left).

You don't want to give up assets outside of Z for Murphy? Fine, I'm cool with that. Same with Jamison? That's cool, yet again, I understand. But there's a reason why they are so cheap - they are old, lack an important quality (defense, in both cases), and one has run into a string of injuries(yes, he's been healthy until this season, but still) and already has a bad contract. There's also a reason why Iggy won't be had for expirings alone (unless it's Amare) - because he's young, is locked up for years, and is just a really solid all-around player whose only weakness is his shooting (which would improve here).

You wouldn't consider trading JJ Hickson, probably Danny Green, and a 1st rounder for Iggy and Dalembert to be a "win?" Really? There's a difference between winning every trade and refusing to give up young players or picks. To win a Jamison trade, we can't give up those assets . But Iggy? His worth is just a little different, for obvious reasons, and we can afford to give up those assets while still winning the trade.

The beginning of your post about Dallas and Phoenix likely being unwilling/unable to give up young players/picks is EXACTLY why we offer JJ and a pick (and Green if they really want..) and snatch him up instead of sitting there with expirings and praying they choose us over the 2 other teams bidding, who also happen to have just as many expirings (technically more, actually).
 
Not many huh? As I expected.

Okay this is the problem. You people say, Hey I want this guy. He would fit well because he blah blah blah and he blah blah. High chance is that some of you havent watched any of their game this season. I watched 3 6ers games this season. I'm not an expert but it is VERY different to review a player by how he plays live rather than to read it in some summary or watch some game highlights in Youtube. Remember its highlights. They'll only show you the stuff that gets into Sportscenter.

This is my review.

Iggy is good but he isnt an all star. He is a good wing defender but gets blown off vs quicker players. He is good 1 on 1 when the opponent has the ball. I paid close attention to him especially the one vs Lakers. Sometimes I just concentrate on him him and not the ball. He is an above average off ball defender. He sometimes doesnt pay attention to an incoming screener and gets hit. He would then needs to go around to challenge the shot. By then, Kobe released his jump shot and scored. Good thing about him is that he doesnt do stupid hand check fouls.

Offensively, he is a capable shooter. You all know he can drive. His jump shots can get a little shaky. He isnt the best jump shooter. In the 3 games I watched, Iverson handled the ball most of the time. He handled it at times and wasnt stingy about it. He passes well but isnt thread the needle type like Lebron. He sometimes passes the opportunity to shoot by passing the ball. He doesnt have a lot of attempts on the games I watched.

Personally, I dont think Iggy is a #1 scoring type. To me, he is either 2b or 3rd scoring choice. He isnt viewed a number 1 in Philly either. He is a great scoring threat but isnt big enough to be double teamed. To me, he is best at the fast break which we kinda need. The only one who can score consistently on fast breaks are Lebron and Mo. They either score, get fouled or get an and 1. The others are selfish. You can clearly see that Lebron wants the ball back when he passes to them during the start of the fast break, either in the form of an alley op or a pass. Other players can do a proper fast break but they need help, mostly from Lebron. Either through a laser pass or from the defender moving away to cover Lebron.

Iggy too is best during Iso, but not as long as Lebron's. A mini Iso for about 3 seconds creates a lane for him to drive. I dont see him doing Iso in Philly though.

So would he be a good side kick for Lebron? My answer is, if he adapts to it, then a definite yes. He certainly checks all of the prerequisites. He can defend, he drives, great personality, has no history of injuries. He plays perfect seasons and he shows improvements ever year.

I was on the wagon last season that what we need was a SF to play James' position when he sits. We got that with the addition of Moon this year and he clearly helps us. I remembered reading somewhere saying that we lost more games when Moon was out than when we lost both Delonte and Mo. No I dont want him so we can move Bron to the 4. He clearly shows he likes the perimeter better.

Iguodala would be a superb addition to the team after he gets used to the system and the team. Shaq played career lows in the beginning of the season and fans were in uproar to trade him. But look at him now. Same thing would happen to Iggy. Would he gel well? Yeah I think he would. I think he would be buddies with Delonte.

So could we get him? Possibly if Philly is desperate enough. What would I give? No comment. I think this is Ferry's specialty and he would do his best to rob any team he makes a trade with.
Based on the bold, would you consider trading Z, Hickson, and a 1st (and again, Green if they ask) for Dally/Iggy to be robbing Philly? I sure would.

What, is this guy stuck in 2007?

J.J. Hickson may not be a burgeoning superstar, but there is no way -- none -- that I give him up for a player like Andre Iguodala. Let's be honest here: Iguodala is not an All-Star. He has never been named to any All-Star team even as an alternate. Yes, he's young, he's 26. But Mo Williams was 25 when we got him and we didn't need to drain our assets to get him. Similar situation: Milwaukee wanted to dump salary and they were willing to dump Mo, who had just signed a big contract the year before.

You didn't see us giving up Varejao or Delonte or Boobie to get him. I'd love Iguodala, I'm all for getting younger, but not at the expense of other young parts. Like Windhorst said, Philly called US. We didn't go looking for a deal. If they want to just dump salary and nothing else, then Ferry's listening. Otherwise, peace.
Jesus Christ the overrating of Hickson is absurd.

We got lucky with Mo. Most teams won't give up young talented players for garbage. Basing EVERY.SINGLE.DEAL. off of past deals we made was ridiculous when people mentioned it months ago and it still is ridiculous. Every team is not going to bend over for us and hand us a championship.
 
I wasn't posting that article in response to your post, just adding it onto my post as its recent "news."

We have other options? OK, but none are young. And none are good on defense. And none would give LeBron another reason to stay (well, Jamison maybe, but he still doesn't have much left).

You don't want to give up assets outside of Z for Murphy? Fine, I'm cool with that. Same with Jamison? That's cool, yet again, I understand. But there's a reason why they are so cheap - they are old, lack an important quality (defense, in both cases), and one has run into a string of injuries(yes, he's been healthy until this season, but still) and already has a bad contract. There's also a reason why Iggy won't be had for expirings alone (unless it's Amare) - because he's young, is locked up for years, and is just a really solid all-around player whose only weakness is his shooting (which would improve here).

You wouldn't consider trading JJ Hickson, probably Danny Green, and a 1st rounder for Iggy and Dalembert to be a "win?" Really? There's a difference between winning every trade and refusing to give up young players or picks. To win a Jamison trade, we can't give up those assets . But Iggy? His worth is just a little different, for obvious reasons, and we can afford to give up those assets while still winning the trade.

The beginning of your post about Dallas and Phoenix likely being unwilling/unable to give up young players/picks is EXACTLY why we offer JJ and a pick (and Green if they really want..) and snatch him up instead of sitting there with expirings and praying they choose us over the 2 other teams bidding, who also happen to have just as many expirings (technically more, actually).
That's a pretty good post, Triumph. You're killing it today. (I find myself repping you way too much lately btw. Maybe b/c we have similar avatars?)

I can see exactly where you're coming from when you talk about Iguodala being a little "different" from guys like Jamison and Murphy given his age. But really, it's the same situation as Mo Williams was in 2008. Milwaukee had just signed him to a seven-year $52 million contract a year before then and realized that they had way overpaid. It's the same EXACT situation with Philly and Iguodala. They just signed him for the near MAX, which is ridiculous, and now they realized that it's too much.

Yes, Iguodala a young player who can be around for the long term. But he is not an All-Star. For guys like Amar'e, you drain your assets. He's a perennial All-Star and one of the five best players at his position. Not only is Iguodala not an All-Star, but is he one of the top five shooting guards in the league? Hell, is he one of the top 10?

The parallels between Milwaukee/Mo and Philadelphia/Iggy are eerily similar. And once again, the Sixers called us first, not the other way around. You don't just turn around and say "hey ok here are all our young assets, just have 'em." We all know Danny Ferry doesn't operate that way. If he did, we'd have a 31-year old aging and breaking Mike Bibby running our point instead of a 27-year old Mo Williams (get well soon playa).
 
That's a pretty good post, Triumph. You're killing it today. (I find myself repping you way too much lately btw. Maybe b/c we have similar avatars?)

I can see exactly where you're coming from when you talk about Iguodala being a little "different" from guys like Jamison and Murphy given his age. But really, it's the same situation as Mo Williams was in 2008. Milwaukee had just signed him to a seven-year $52 million contract a year before then and realized that they had way overpaid. It's the same EXACT situation with Philly and Iguodala. They just signed him for the near MAX, which is ridiculous, and now they realized that it's too much.

Yes, Iguodala a young player who can be around for the long term. But he is not an All-Star. For guys like Amar'e, you drain your assets. He's a perennial All-Star and one of the five best players at his position. Not only is Iguodala not an All-Star, but is he one of the top five shooting guards in the league? Hell, is he one of the top 10?

The parallels between Milwaukee/Mo and Philadelphia/Iggy are eerily similar. And once again, the Sixers called us first, not the other way around. You don't just turn around and say "hey ok here are all our young assets, just have 'em." We all know Danny Ferry doesn't operate that way. If he did, we'd have a 31-year old aging and breaking Mike Bibby running our point instead of a 27-year old Mo Williams (get well soon playa).
There are some parallels between Mo's and Iggy's respective situations, I'll give you that. And yes, they did call us - but do you really think we're the only team they called? I'd be willing to bet they called Phoenix, Dallas, and probably Houston too.

Dallas has Howard and Dampier (non-guaranteed next year) to offer for Iggy/Dally.
Phoenix has Amare and Richardson to offer.
We have Z. And maybe Wally - it's not even guaranteed that he would be included - to offer.

Those offers are quite similar. Some save a tad more money (ours), while others save money while still not upsetting the fans (phx), and then there's one that is basically in the middle. Would you really suggest sitting there twiddling our thumbs and hoping they pick us? I'd rather not.

You suggesting draining our assets for Amare while NOT for Iggy (might not even have to drain all of our assets bc of Dally) is a bit contradictory IMO. Yes, Amare is an All-Star, but then again so is Iverson;). Really though, Amare's production is a byproduct of the system he's in. Don't get me wrong, Amare is a star-caliber player who I wouldn't necessarily mind on the Cavs (assuming they want him). But he has his downsides too. Like his lack of rebounding. And his lack of defense. And his attitude issues. And his me-first mentality. And his injury risk. And he could leave after this season if he wanted to (not saying he would, but it's a possibility). Even W&G, who is more knowledgeable than both of us, expressed concern about how Amare would fit here.

Then you look at Iggy. Is he as good as Amare on the court? Maybe, but probably not. But he doesn't have the baggage off the court that Amare does. How many major injuries has Iggy had? How many times has he missed 10+ games in a season? I'll answer that for you - none. What attitude concerns do people have about him? I personally haven't heard any. Maybe a 76er fan, who sees a lot more of him than I do, would disagree with that though. Regardless, aside from the players actual talent, we also have to consider their willingness to take a lesser role here and put the team ahead of themselves. Iggy would do that. Would Amare?
 
To all the people out there that want to stay pat remember this...Last year we had Wally's expiring and we decided to stay pat mainly because the team was performing so well and had great chemistry. (Besides getting Joe Smith)

I don't believe that there is a person on this board that couldve predicted Orlando's dominance over us. We could've possibly traded for Shaq before last years deadline. The series would've been completely different if we had that big load in the middle defending Howard. We would not have needed people to help out on Dwight leaving shooters open around the perimeter. Shaq has manhandled Dwight when they played this season showing us that he is perfect for that future playoff matchup.

I guess point is nobody could've predicted that Orlando would get lucky jacking 3s including TurkeyGlue and Google Eyes (off the backboard) and that PED Rashard Lewis would make clutch shot after clutch shot. But having Shaq couldve helped. I'm not a huge fan of trading for a guy like Murphy or Jamison due to their age and defensive liability. But if we could get a guy like Iguadola that is a big athletic SG/SF he could be very helpful in guarding and wreaking havoc on the offensive side on guards like Kobe, Carter, tubby Paul Pierce, and even like a Dwayne Wade. (Which I would not enjoy a round 1 matchup against the Heat since Im sure he would have at least 2 outstanding games).
 
Based on the bold, would you consider trading Z, Hickson, and a 1st (and again, Green if they ask) for Dally/Iggy to be robbing Philly? I sure would.

Too bad we cant do a NFL style achievement type deal huh. Like if we got Iggy and if we win the ship this year and resign James, we'll give them Hickson. If we dont win the ship this year, we dont need to send JJ.

But I think we need to send Moon if we want Iggy. Its pretty hard for me to choose a draft pick or Green. I think its 1st round > Green > 2nd round for me.
 
That's a pretty good post, Triumph. You're killing it today. (I find myself repping you way too much lately btw. Maybe b/c we have similar avatars?)

I can see exactly where you're coming from when you talk about Iguodala being a little "different" from guys like Jamison and Murphy given his age. But really, it's the same situation as Mo Williams was in 2008. Milwaukee had just signed him to a seven-year $52 million contract a year before then and realized that they had way overpaid. It's the same EXACT situation with Philly and Iguodala. They just signed him for the near MAX, which is ridiculous, and now they realized that it's too much.

Yes, Iguodala a young player who can be around for the long term. But he is not an All-Star. For guys like Amar'e, you drain your assets. He's a perennial All-Star and one of the five best players at his position. Not only is Iguodala not an All-Star, but is he one of the top five shooting guards in the league? Hell, is he one of the top 10?

The parallels between Milwaukee/Mo and Philadelphia/Iggy are eerily similar. And once again, the Sixers called us first, not the other way around. You don't just turn around and say "hey ok here are all our young assets, just have 'em." We all know Danny Ferry doesn't operate that way. If he did, we'd have a 31-year old aging and breaking Mike Bibby running our point instead of a 27-year old Mo Williams (get well soon playa).

According to Hollinger's SG PER (which I know isn't the end all be all but it is a pretty decent ranking system) Iggy is ranked 8th, and that is not taking into account the defense that he brings. Also, of the 7 players ahead of him, only Roy is younger. While he may not have been an All-Star yet, he just turned 26 and probably has a good shot at making an All-Star game at least once or twice in his career, especially if he is playing next to LeBron.

Now I don't believe that a trade for him will ultimately end up happening, but Z, JJ and maybe a first seems like a fairly even trade to me.
 
But teams have yet to offer enough to entice the Sixers to agree to a deal. And the Sixers apparently are looking for more than just an expiring contract, which would seem to rule out a swap for the Rockets’ Tracy McGrady and his $23 million deal that ends in June.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/new...february/03/teams-interested-in-iguodala.html

Weren't the Sixers the team that came to the Cavs looking to entice them?

The more I read, the more I get the feeling that the '6ers are that barskank that dry humps the f**k out of you on the dance floor all night but when last call comes she's talking about a relationship and dates. Damnit Philly, don't blueball us!
 
Too bad we cant do a NFL style achievement type deal huh. Like if we got Iggy and if we win the ship this year and resign James, we'll give them Hickson. If we dont win the ship this year, we dont need to send JJ.

But I think we need to send Moon if we want Iggy. Its pretty hard for me to choose a draft pick or Green. I think its 1st round > Green > 2nd round for me.
That'd be pretty damn cool, haha.

Damn I need to sleep, but I wanted to address one more point before heading to bed:

On one hand, we have Murphy and Jamison. Two players who, while being good, do not have many suitors. Can anyone tell me another team that has been interested in either? I know there has been some talk about others being interested, but no teams have actually been reported. As a result, we have leverage. Another team may be willing to take on Jamison, but they'll probably demand Blatche or McGee or maybe a pick. We're one of, if not THE only team who would be willing to take on either without them adding some sort of incentive (pick, young player). Pow, more leverage! That puts us in a good position in regards to trading for them. But like I mentioned in an earlier post, there are reasons for that (age, lack of defense, contract for Jamison, etc).

On the other hand, we have Iggy and Dalembert. Iggy is the main part of the deal, so I'll focus on him. Unlike Jamison and Murphy, he has at least one other suitor that we know is 100% in the running for him. Then there are other teams, like Dallas and Houston, who have been linked to Philly but there hasn't been much actual substance. So best case scenario, neither of those 2 are interested and we're against Phoenix. Again, like I mentioned above, there are different benefits for each of our deals. The Phoenix deal would save money and be more explainable to their fanbase while our deal would save more money but probably make the fanbase irate. Here, we have some leverage because we're willing to absorb salary, but we don't have as much as we do with Murphy/Jamison because here we actually have competition.

We could lowball them, sit back, and pray that they pick us over Phoenix. Maybe it'll work, maybe not. Or we could take the initiative, and give them more reasons to pick us over Phoenix. I like JJ, I really do. But he doesn't have an unlimited ceiling. There's always the risk that he won't even come close to reaching his potential and he'll just be an average role player. So why not move him for an established young player who we KNOW will help? JJ might help, but he might not - it's a gamble. Could gambling be good in some cases? Yes. But Hickson doesn't have enough potential to pass on Iggy and justify that gamble IMO. The 30th pick in the draft isn't a big deal in this deal either, if we want one that badly we can buy an early 2nd rounder for a couple hundred thousand.
 
So would you guys take Elton Brand on, if it meant getting the Sixers first round pick?

Not sure which way you mean this: I assume you mean iggy+brand+unprotected 1st

Definitely!

Brand > D'alembert for this year. He fits in our offense better, and definitely shoots a better jump shot than Hickson/D'alembert. Alongside Shaq, nobody would be attacking us in the middle.

The unprotected pick would be huge for the future. As of now, the 76ers have a 7.8% chance at the number one pick. They have a locked top 10 pick, with a good shot at top 5. We take away two of their most talented players (giving them nothing but expirings in return) - they're bound to have an even higher pick come the end of the season.

At worst - the top pick would allow us to get rid of Brand's contract in return for an expiring - in which case, the deal becomes exactly the same as the Dalembert deal.

At best - Brand is working out ok and we have a top pick. A pick that high could be incredibly useful if Bosh becomes available on a S&T - for instance. But otherwise, we could take a young big like Favors/Aldrich/Montiejunas, and we'd have a lineup that's set for the next half decade:

LBJ/Iggy/Mo/AV/Hickson/West/top 10 pick

No team can rival that sort of young talent/production

Oh, and you have a nearly 10% chance at John Wall - (or, more probably Brand+1st overall pick for Bosh S&T)

~Lyuokdea
 
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