Andrew Wiggins

[Rainman]

Note, for those ready to say Wiggins should never been traded, probably never wins ROY in Cleveland. On top of that doesn't get the playing time he did in, Minny.

 

[gourimoko]

Note, for those ready to say Wiggins should never been traded, probably never wins ROY in Cleveland. On top of that doesn't get the playing time he did in, Minny.

Look guys. If we aren't going to discuss the Love trade until after the playoffs why bring it up?

Lots of folks disagree but I know I don't really want to talk about the trade right now considering what just happened.

 

[Biw]

Note, for those ready to say Wiggins should never been traded, probably never wins ROY in Cleveland. On top of that doesn't get the playing time he did in, Minny.

Doesn't make me want him any less. For us to have given up Wiggins and still have to sit here wondering if Love will be a Cavalier next year... Doesn't feel good. Especially given the current situation.

 

[kookoo]

Note, for those ready to say Wiggins should never been traded, probably never wins ROY in Cleveland. On top of that doesn't get the playing time he did in, Minny.

He would definitely get the same amount of playing time, just not the same touches and liberties on offense.

 

[Ohio]

He would definitely get the same amount of playing time, just not the same touches and liberties on offense.

No chance he gets 36 mpg here, none.

 

[DougHeil]

WTF is wrong with you people?

Close this damn thread. I'm damn sick of hearing about wiggins. Screw him. Let's focus on winning a championship instead. How is this helpful or helping with Kevin Love? How is this thread helping the Cavs? It ain't. Close it.

 

[DougHeil]

Sorry. I'm just pissed off. If this was an average basketball type injury we see most every day, I wouldn't mind as much. It wasn't. It was avoidable. It was malicious. IMO, it was intentional. I'm pissed.

I just don't care too much reading about this wiggins guy. It's past. I want to look forward.

 

[kookoo]

No chance he gets 36 mpg here, none.

Without JR or Shumpert, while Dion is playing like shit and backing LeBron up as well? He would most definitely get 36 mpg here.

 

[gourimoko]

Sorry. I'm just pissed off. If this was an average basketball type injury we see most every day, I wouldn't mind as much. It wasn't. It was avoidable. It was malicious. IMO, it was intentional. I'm pissed.

I just don't care too much reading about this wiggins guy. It's past. I want to look forward.

Agreed.

 

[mhi]

If anything, it's the Kevin Love thread that needs to be temporarily locked, to help people reach the acceptance stage sooner.

 

[gourimoko]

If anything, it's the Kevin Love thread that needs to be temporarily locked, to help people reach the acceptance stage sooner.

I don't want either thread locked....

I just think it's the wrong time to discuss this. I think, in the offseason, we can sit down and evaluate the entirety of the year with clearer minds and less emotion.

 

[spydy13]

It's going to be impossible to objectively evaluate this trade until you get to see the totality of both Love and Wiggins' career.

Even then you're playing a guessing game about what might have happened if we hadn't done the trade. Maybe someone will write some great historical fiction piece on the possibilities, but wasting your time on this is pretty much pointless in my opinion.

 

[Green Lantern]

It's ironic because at first I wanted Parker instead of Wiggins because the Cavs had no scoring punch at the PF spot.
Then I warmed up to Wiggins a bit..
The all the other stuff happened and the trade..
I am still greedy, I wanted Wiggins and love.
But Parker is gonna be a good one too.

 

[gourimoko]

It's going to be impossible to objectively evaluate this trade until you get to see the totality of both Love and Wiggins' career.

Even then you're playing a guessing game about what might have happened if we hadn't done the trade. Maybe someone will write some great historical fiction piece on the possibilities, but wasting your time on this is pretty much pointless in my opinion.

I think what can be derived is how good of a GM LeBron really is, and whether or not we should listen to him. I also think we can assess the arguments presented supporting either side, and see how they held up, and then make better decisions down the road.

I always think we can learn from our own history, and that if we don't we're doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

 

[spydy13]

I think what can be derived is how good of a GM LeBron really is, and whether or not we should listen to him. I also think we can assess the arguments presented supporting either side, and see how they held up, and then make better decisions down the road.

I always think we can learn from our own history, and that if we don't we're doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

It's always good to review your past decisions, and I think both sides have compelling and worthy arguments, but the constant back and forth people have is kind of crazy at this point.

I also think it's reductive to go the GM LeBron route in this specific instance since we know for a fact that this FO and Blatt both wanted Love before LeBron even entered the equation. Sure, did LeBron want/demand him as soon as he signed? Yes. But there's also a very good chance that we would have pursued a deal for him regardless.

I give people full reign to bitch about GM LeBron in many other instances though, like signing Miller and Jones or pushing for the Andy extension.