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Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

We didn't have Wiggins or LeBron last year and we ranked 12th in team defense. Again.....what's the problem? We're upgrading the three and the four defensively from last year. Unreal upgrades offensively. I think a lot of you are batshit crazy. This is silly.

If you want to call Wiggins a defensive show stopper before he's played a real NBA game that's fine. Kind of looked like it at moments in summer league until he got his wheels shredded by Canaan.

His offense is atrocious. I like that he can out-jump most if not all of his opponents off the dribble and I believe he's trying hard to get that down pat. My problem is his inconsistent shooting. His shot is completely fucked up looking. He's lanky at the arms and his shot's have no rhythm. I'm not saying it won't work for him and I would even say it's going to improve greatly.

The problem I have is his ability or willingness to be a winner and that's not to say that he isn't but he hasn't shown it in the most crucial moments. We have LeBron James' greatness for maybe 4 years and probably less if we want to be realistic. I know he's superhuman but you can't out-age father time. He cramped up during the Spurs series when nobody else did... including almost 40 year olds. The man has played more than 120 games than D. Wade who is 32 years old...

This is Cleveland's time to strike for a championship that still have, even without Wiggins and with Love, a chance to be a cornerstone franchise for years to come.

There is no end in sight and the fact of the matter is that if we include Wiggins in the trade we could bypass giving away multiple first rounders whom might make our future that much brighter depending on the decisions of our front office. Just because the next draft or 2 (or 3) isn't like this one doesn't mean there isn't valuable players we could pick or trade for. You have to look to the future.

I'd take that risk.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

Anyone else get the feeling LeBron is being grossly underrated by Cavaliers fans themselves? It's almost like we've grown so accustomed to sucking, and because everyone else on the team seems so young, that LeBron has become this old man that will only be good for a little while longer before he loses the ability to lead a team.

The guy is 29 years old. Still in his athletic prime, and arguably not at his basketball or mental peak as of yet. We can absolutely win now without shipping Wiggins for love.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

Anyone else get the feeling LeBron is being grossly underrated by Cavaliers fans themselves? It's almost like we've grown so accustomed to sucking, and because everyone else on the team seems so young, that LeBron has become this old man that will only be good for a little while longer before he loses the ability to lead a team.

The guy is 29 years old. Still in his athletic prime, and arguably not at his basketball or mental peak as of yet. We can absolutely win now without shipping Wiggins for love.

No to most of this.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

Anyone else get the feeling LeBron is being grossly underrated by Cavaliers fans themselves? It's almost like we've grown so accustomed to sucking, and because everyone else on the team seems so young, that LeBron has become this old man that will only be good for a little while longer before he loses the ability to lead a team.

The guy is 29 years old. Still in his athletic prime, and arguably not at his basketball or mental peak as of yet. We can absolutely win now without shipping Wiggins for love.

No. But a lot of us remember when he left and destroyed the franchise. Four years later and a lot of luck, the franchise appears to be turning the corner.

With Kyrie and Wiggins, even without LBJ, this would be a young exciting team- throwing in Dion, Bennett, Thompson etc.

I don't want to see this young talent tossed away for Love to appease LBJ. I believe other more reasonable trades will present themselves that will put a great team around LBJ with the young talent.

They're are almost there with their own Big 3, all they have to do it show some patience.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

Anyone else get the feeling LeBron is being grossly underrated by Cavaliers fans themselves? It's almost like we've grown so accustomed to sucking, and because everyone else on the team seems so young, that LeBron has become this old man that will only be good for a little while longer before he loses the ability to lead a team.

The guy is 29 years old. Still in his athletic prime, and arguably not at his basketball or mental peak as of yet. We can absolutely win now without shipping Wiggins for love.

Lebron is a great player but he cannot singlehandedly drag lousy teams to championships. It's unfair to put that burden on him. Last year's team was a 33-win team that missed the playoffs, and the Andrew Wiggins I saw in summer league is not changing that drastically. (Although Coach Blatt is a big step up over Brown too). That's still frankly a better team than the 2010 Cavs team he left, which was truly putrid without him, but it's not a team that will beat the best of the West even with Lebron. Wiggins for Love and a decent center is a huge upgrade and it's what we need to do if we want to win now.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

Vince Carter 2.0. Please don't trade him away. :thumbup:
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

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Hmmm this is interesting....
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

It's not really "available" if it's only being sold in one size and in limited quantity...I think they're just selling off whatever initial stock they have from the first jersey printing. They're clearly not printing any more until this trade situation is resolved.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

damnit, I wish Bron came back next season so we could have got to see A Wiggins run with the rest of our young guys.

Eh, what you gonna do, we still have the best player on out team :gap:
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

damnit, I wish Bron came back next season so we could have got to see A Wiggins run with the rest of our young guys.

Eh, what you gonna do, we still have the best player on out team :gap:

Bummer, now we have to watch a championship team.
 
Re: Andrew Wiggins (signed)

damnit, I wish Bron came back next season so we could have got to see A Wiggins run with the rest of our young guys.

Eh, what you gonna do, we still have the best player on out team :gap:

You would rather miss a year of LeBron's prime just to watch the first year of a raw and developing Andrew Wiggins?

We went from a borderline playoff team to a title favorite.

This is the best offseason in Cavaliers history!
 
Wiggins live on SportsCenter right now after commercial...

Edit: Wiggins: "I just want to play for a team that wants me..."

Asked if Cleveland wants him, there was a long period or silence then "Well, yep... I hope so."

What an awkward interview.

He said some things that are revealing. First of all, he looked sad like someone pooped on his cake.

When asked what he wants to accomplish in the NBA, he said he wants to bring a franchise up to respectability and give the fans what they pay good money to see. That sounds to me like he knows he's going to Minnesota.
 
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