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James

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Between the failure of the men in blue that is UM and the cupcake schedule of OSU, the Big 10 is deffinitly not the the confrence it used to be, why dont you start playing some harder non-confrence games? There are C-USA teams that play harder teams then OSU does this year.

You guys arent going to get to many more NCG's with these kinds of schedules, look at LSU, Virginia Tech and UF and they still get to play in the toughest confrence in college football where any given saturday a ranked team can fall against an unranked team (see UGA vs USC)

Look at USC, At Nebraska, At Cal, At ND and UCLA, the Buckeyes can go undeafeated and still not get into the NCS Game because a team thats played a tougher schedule and has 1 loss is more respectable then having as easy of a scedule as OSU has.
 
C'mon..tell us how you really feel. This time don't sugarcoat it.
 
I asked James to post this. :chuckles:
 
^ill play by your rules on this one, ill have an on going thread in here. if thats what you want....cool.
 
I think saying the B10 is a joke is a bit harsh. Down the last two years? Probably. Certainly not the best conference the last two years, but that's b/c we're used to it being the either the best or the second best conference just about every year. I would say they're middle of the road among the BCS conferences this year. (Obviously, it's really early to be having this debate in regards to 2007.) How would you rank the BCS conferences?
 
1. SEC
2. PAC-10
3. Big East
4. Big 10/ Big 12
5. ACC

I wouldnt say Big 10 is on the same level as ACC, thatd be an insult because the ACC has some pretty bad teams, UNC/Duke. I will say this year your on the same level as the Big 12, But right now, you guys are slipping. Your "Best team" should not drop its first 2 games, especially the way they did.
 
1. SEC
2. PAC-10
3. Big East
4. Big 10/ Big 12
5. ACC

I wouldnt say Big 10 is on the same level as ACC, thatd be an insult because the ACC has some pretty bad teams, UNC/Duke. I will say this year your on the same level as the Big 12, But right now, you guys are slipping. Your "Best team" should not drop its first 2 games, especially the way they did.
Well, if UM is our best team then you're right, the B10 is a joke. :)

Hopefully UM is the 3rd or 4th best team. I guess we'll see. Like I said, lots of ball to be played.

The PAC 10 is looking better this year, so I could see putting them ahead of the B10. I don't see the Big East as being ahead. Now, I know what you're thinking. WVU is 4, Louisville is 9, and Rutgers is 13, but that's b/c they play in the Big East. The voters know that the worst any of those three teams is going to do is lose 2 games, b/c their only possible losses are vs each other. You want to talk about a cupcake schedule, go look at WVU's.

OSU and PSU can play with WVU and Louisville, but they're ranked behind them b/c the Buckeyes are projected to drop at least two games with their schedule. WVU and Lousville are both projected to lose at most 2 games.

It's dumb that teams are ranked based on projected wins and losses, instead of being ranked according to who is actually the better team, but it is what it is.

So what I'm saying is OSU+PSU+Wisky is at least = WVU+Ville+Rutgers. The rest of the Big Ten is >>>>>> the rest of the Big East.
 
Like i said, there are confrences that are on the upswing right now, while the Big 10 is on the down swing. UM is slowly going to start losing out of state recruits to states in warmer weather, if you know what i mean. There football program is very very close to going the same way the basketball program has went. There are teams that are supposed to ALWAYS be good, and when those teams start falling, its not good. And that, at least in my opinion is whats happening to the Big 10.
 
Like i said, there are confrences that are on the upswing right now, while the Big 10 is on the down swing. UM is slowly going to start losing out of state recruits to states in warmer weather, if you know what i mean. There football program is very very close to going the same way the basketball program has went. There are teams that are supposed to ALWAYS be good, and when those teams start falling, its not good. And that, at least in my opinion is whats happening to the Big 10.

Bro michigan has already been losing out of recruits in the state, thats another reason why michigan fans do not like llllloyd carr
 
So then why dont they get this guy out of there....
 
So then why dont they get this guy out of there....

It's only a matter of time before the boosters drop the hammer. Unfortunately for OSU fans, Carr won't be a punching bag for much longer.
 
Because of his "legacy" and they have been pretty good outside of the Bowl and OSU games. Yea why haven't they gotten rid of him?
 
It would certainly seem like the negatives outweigh the positives, after all the OSU games, Bowl Games and this season...thatd be enough to get pretty much anyone fired. He is playing with house money at this point and its not even about how bad he has damaged himself, but how bad he is damaging the school.
 
Because of his "legacy" and they have been pretty good outside of the Bowl and OSU games. Yea why haven't they gotten rid of him?
Carr owes his legacy to John Cooper. Speaking of coaches who kept their jobs too long. :(

Like i said, there are confrences that are on the upswing right now, while the Big 10 is on the down swing. UM is slowly going to start losing out of state recruits to states in warmer weather, if you know what i mean. There football program is very very close to going the same way the basketball program has went. There are teams that are supposed to ALWAYS be good, and when those teams start falling, its not good. And that, at least in my opinion is whats happening to the Big 10.
Conferences have their ups and downs. From year in to year out, you don't know who's going to have the best conference. Over the long haul, I always say that the Big Ten and the SEC are the best conferences. Probably 80% - 85% of the years the Big Ten is one of the top 2 conferences, and when they're not they're no lower than the third best conference. The same thing can be said for the SEC.

So is the B10 slipping? Well, they were clearly not the top conference last year, and granted it's still early, but don't look like they are this year either. I don't like that two years in a row they haven't been the best conference, but two years is a small sample size for something like this. I'm not ready to hit the panic button yet.

I will say this, it's pretty hard to form an argument that Ohio State in particular is on a down swing. They've had the second most successful program the last five, including being the second best team in the land as recent as last year. And the Tressel train keeps rolling. We lost a ton of players from last year, virtually every star on the team, yet they appear to have reloaded. Say what you will about their schedule, that defense is nasty and deep, and it is going to win them a bunch of ball games. OSU has a great shot at a BCS bowl again this year, which would be their 4th one in 6 years.

I do agree that the Big East is on an upswing. They've been a BCS conference from the beginning, but Miami used to always be #1, VT #2. The rest of the schools were perennial door mats. When the top 2 teams left, and the Big East was left with lower schools to replace them (Cinci, and who else? drawing a blank here), the Big East was by far the worst BCS conference. I mean, it was just pathetic in comparison to the others. What happened is you had a conference with no football powers, and there was a power void. Any team in there had a shot to make the BCS. Coaches sold that to recruits: "Hey, come to WVU. With your talent we'll be sure to win the Big East and make a BCS game. I see you're also being courted by Michigan State. When was the last time they went to the BCS?" A few years of that, and quickly the Big East is improving. They're not really stealing recruits from the Penn States and Ohio States, Miamis out there, they're stealing them from the Michigan States, Clemsons, etc. For a school like Louisville to be on level with Michigan State or Clemson, that's a pretty big improvement in a short period. Good for them.
 
OSU has a great shot at a BCS bowl again this year, which would be their 4th one in 6 years.

With your poor excuse of a schedule, it wouldnt be a surprise, but if you drop the 2 games against the 2 teams even worth mentioning on your schedule, itll be curtains.

Does the Big-10 schedule any Pac-10 teams? Or even SEC teams for non-confrence? Stop playing these weak sauce MAC teams and step up.
 
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