Casspi Assfingers

[SOA]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

just wanted to point out how surprised i am at this thread going 43 posts without a single mention of 'pit bull'

the original poster should have mentioned this because Scott mentioned he played like a "pitbull" in preseason but the poster who started the thread mentioned he is playing more like a "poodle"

 

[AmirT0]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

I don't think there is a medical problem. Omri said so himself. He had many terrible and semi-terrible games in Sac. I just don't remember him having strung together such a trio of games as a starter. I watched close to 90% of his NBA games.

 

[Pavlovic3Ball]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

Not an ideal starter for any NBA team. I think he will improve, but he doesn't, no big deal. All im really looking for is improvement from the rookies and the 2012 draft. Anything else is gravy.

 

[Bizkitfan]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

It's too early in the season to say anything yet.

 

[wuck]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

From the PD:

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Inoffensive so far, Omri Casspi encouraged to be more defensive with Cleveland Cavaliers
Published: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 6:39 PM Updated: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 6:41 PM
Jodie Valade

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The good news is that Omri Casspi has a pretty good idea of exactly what's wrong with his outside shooting touch, of why he's made only four field goals through three games and is shooting a paltry 26.7 percent.

The bad news is that it will not be an easy fix.

"I feel like I'm thinking too much during the game about my shot, about what kind of shots I need to take," Casspi said. "I've just got to let it go. Clear my mind and play the game and enjoy it."

It's a task both easy and difficult, but Cavaliers coach Byron Scott on Saturday had a simpler idea for the 6-foot-9 swingman: Don't worry about it one bit. Focus, instead, on defense.

"I think that's the first thing," Scott said. "Go into the game thinking about that end of the floor, don't even worry about the offense. That will take care of itself."

Both the Cavaliers and Casspi hope Scott is right. The 23-year-old Israeli came to the Cavaliers as part of an off-season trade that sent power forward J.J. Hickson to Sacramento. Casspi earned a starting spot based on his dogged pre-season play, but so far, hasn't displayed the form he did in two seasons with the Kings, where he averaged 42.9 percent from the field.

Despite Casspi's woeful start, Scott said he has been pretty pleased with his defense. In training camp, Scott compared Casspi to a "pit bull" for his aggressive approach. While Casspi might not be quite that fierce consistently, he's not acting like a Chihuahua, either.

"He's allowing that length and athleticism to work to his advantage," Scott said. "Every now and then he plays a little bit soft when I want him to be a little more aggressive. ... I think he's been solid on that end of the floor. But I think he could still be better."

While Casspi works on the defensive side, Scott just might tinker on the offensive end to provide a little help.

"Offensively, we're going to work some things to see if we can get him the ball in some of the areas he likes to get it," Scott said. "I'm trying to get a feel for Omri as I am Kyrie [Irving] and some of our other guys that are new here."

Casspi, for his part, will also work on not worrying so much.

"I've just got to let it go, I guess," he said. "I've got to play my game and run and cut and just clear my mind. Play the game of basketball."

Seems easy enough.


http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2011/12/inoffensive_so_far_omri_casspi.html

 

[The Oi]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

Casspi is worse than Nocioni, but slightly better than Jiri Welsch. I can't imagine this guy is on an NBA roster 3-4 years from now. He's just not a very good basketball player. Expectations should be very, very low.

 

[AmirT0]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

Casspi is worse than Nocioni, but slightly better than Jiri Welsch. I can't imagine this guy is on an NBA roster 3-4 years from now. He's just not a very good basketball player. Expectations should be very, very low.

With his tiny hands and lousy handle he cannot really create much off the dribble.
I think that's really his problem. Complete reliance on others.

League probably figured him out too after rookie year. Not leaving much for him to do with inability to create own offense.

 

[Tornicade]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

Casspi works off the ball . He would be better paired with sessions at this point. Once him and Irving work out some chemistry he should be fine. Parker can help getting Casspri the ball in ideal situations as Irving gets more comfortable Casspi will get rewarded for his run and cuts.

I havent found any isues with Casspis defense. he has seemed pretty active but you can certainly see where he can can get conservative at points.. plenty of room to improve.

The Cavs dont need him to create his own shots. a guy who is assisted 90% of the time in crunch time and 70% overall is not acquired to create his own shot

 

[abraxas]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

With his tiny hands and lousy handle he cannot really create much off the dribble.
I think that's really his problem. Complete reliance on others.

League probably figured him out too after rookie year. Not leaving much for him to do with inability to create own offense.

So now moving on from the "mentally weak" label to small hands, lousy handle, etc. Sounds like you're talking about the guy we traded him for.

Anyway, if you've watched 90% of Sac's games over the past few years, you'd understand that a player that is used to playing team ball cannot thrive in that environment. It's not a weakness to be reliant on others. Shane Battier has made a long, solid NBA career by being a tough defender and team player. No one trashes him for not being an all-star slasher. You have to understand roles for players like Casspi, not project unrealistic expectations onto him.

So my advice, let's turn down our expectations on him. We traded him for a guy we'd have lost anyway since there's no way we were going to pony up the big bucks JJ is going to command after this season, and obviously we wanted TT in his spot long-term anyway. We're 3 games in. So we have 145 more games to evaluate how well Casspi can play a role in the system we're building - he's not going to be needed to be a 18 ppg scorer, and I'm assuming as he gets more comfortable, he'll find his place. And if he doesn't, at age 25, it's all on him. He has a coach and organization that believes in him and is willing to let him develop, so we'll have to wait and see how it unfolds for him.

 

[Matches]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

ok

Harangody last year in the 21 games as a Cavs played well off the bench. if you compare that to what we are seeing from Casspi thus far.I'd say Casspi hasn't shown much more as a Cav starting than Harangody did coming off the bench last year.

someone compared him to ever disappearing Sasha Pavlovic

IF you compare that to what we've seen from Casspi in THREE games. And if you do that you're liable to make dumb decisions like considering playing Luke Harangody over Omri Casspi in a game of professional basketball. Luke Harangody can't guard his shadow. People also need to be disabused of the notion that he has any redeeming skill outside his hustle, particularly the idea that he's a good shooter from the outside. He's not. He's 16-66 (.242) in the NBA thus far and while he was a prolific college scorer, he shot only 32.5% from the college three point line.

Gee's field goal percentage is better than I thought it was, though that is largely a product of him taking higher percentage shots. He's a worse jumpshooter than Casspi, and I'm not sure he's a better defender. I agree that if Casspi doesn't improve by game 10-15, you might see GeeForce in there, but the idea that he's a long term solution anywhere lacks a ring of truth to me. Just somehow get the sense from him that everything good he does kind of happens by accident. Maybe it's D-League stigma.

Casspi and Pavlovic... Not a dreadful comparison, in the sense that both their reputations as shooters come with a strangely incongruous poor free throw percentage. Pavlovic was a more explosive player, and had quite terrible handles in the open floor. Neither seem to pass the ball much but are capable of making the dramatic extra. And both might be headcases though their personalities on court couldn't be farther apart - Casspi wears his emotions on his sleeve while Dinner4Pavs always looked indifferent, if not like he was in danger of falling asleep, even beyond what his naturally droopy-eyed face would suggest.

 

[AmirT0]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

3 more Qs like this and Casspi has 12 points..best game this far

 

[wuck]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

I thought Casspi played better tonight. Approaching terrier territory. Unfortunately for him, Gee is making the most of his minutes. I don't see Byron waiting forever, although he was probably happy to get 20 pts, 4 rbs, and 7 assists from Gee+Casspi combined tonight.

 

[NarlCavs]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

I'd still keep things the way they are right now with Casspi starting and he and Gee pretty much splitting the minutes in half. 2nd unit with Gee is playing well and since the Cavs don't have a quality starting SF right now the combo of these 2 and how they're being used is working fine for now.

I do think we'll see more consistency from Casspi as he becomes more comfortable and gets in better shape. He is what he is. Decent all around role player who will give a good effort and bring the right attitude.

 

[abraxas]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

If I haven't convinced you enough, what's going down in Sac-town the past weekend will demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt why Casspi's development was stunted. As Westphal himself said, what you're witnessing in the media now is just the "tip of the iceberg".

So cut Casspi some slack. Let's see what he can do once he gets settled into our system.

 

[AmirT0]

Re: Casspi's Poodelish performance thus far

At this point it is clearly a mental thing. Omri has less confidence than a chihuahua going to a fight against a pitbull.
Crossing my fingers for a return to life performance against the Raptors. If it doesn't happen today Gee should start to get the pressure off Casspi and let him rebuild his confidence from the bench against reserves.