Cavaliers Offseason Thread

[go cavs275]

But they won't. Instead they'll be left with unmotivated Rondo and Cousins, after just trading away last years #8 pick and a future pick.

You know what, honestly, when they strike out on Matthews, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Kings throw a ton of money at J.R. Smith. George Karl connection and whatnot.

JR was one of the players that has made a "snake in the grass" comment about Karl, so I highly doubt it.

 

[Walter White]

Quick update on status of some potential FA targets for the Cavs at PG and SF that I had identified leading up to free agency:

PG

I thought this free agent class was particularly weak. There were some candidates potentially available for what the Cavs have to spend (mini MLE and minimum contracts). They are all still available.

Mo Williams -- Jared Zwerling from Bleacher Report prematurely tweeted Mo was going to MEM on a "3 or 4 year deal." But now the only options MEM has to sign him is their BAE. MMLE would trump that. As we know, Mo has been linked with Cavs.

CJ Watson -- Reportedly wants full MLE, but what he wants and what he ends up getting are different things. Never linked to Cavs to my knowledge.

Norris Cole -- New Orleans extended $3M QO, and rumors linking him with Cavs have cooled.

Beno Udrih -- Never linked to Cavs. Fact MEM interested in Mo suggests they aren't interested in Udrih and/or Calathes.

Nick Calathes -- Never linked to Cavs. MEM has extended $1.1M QO.

Jeremy Lin -- Never linked to Cavs to my knowledge.

Aaron Brooks -- Never linked to Cavs. Has been a minimum guy in recent years, but generally with an outsized role.

Ok, for the SFs. Lots more of them have committed to a team. I am only listing those that I had identified as potential FA targets for the Cavs (thus I don't include Demarre Carroll, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, and Al-Farouq Aminu, none of whom were ever realistic). I'm also including some names that others have mentioned.

Jonas Jerebko 2/$10M (re-signing with BOS)
Kyle Singler 5/$25M (re-signing with OKC)
Mike Dunleavy 3/$15M (re-signing with CHI)
Jared Dudley opted in and traded to WAS

Still available:

Mirza Teletovic -- Brooklyn extended $4.2M QO; will they withdraw it in view of tax bill?
Alan Anderson -- Wants $3-4M/yr per Brooklyn media
Richard Jefferson -- Not linked to Cavs (except in potential Bynum trade in early 2014).
Tayshaun Prince -- Linked to Cavs. Presumably would be a minimum guy.
Caron Butler -- Linked to Cavs. Presumably a minimum guy.
Corey Brewer -- Linked to Cavs last season. Most likely will command more than MMLE.
Omri Casspi -- No links to Cavs. Will he get MMLE type money? SAC busy with other things.
Wesley Johnson -- Not linked to Cavs. Will Lakers bring him back on a short term deal once they strike out with everyone else? Likely.
K.J. McDaniels -- Never thought he was established enough for the Cavs to pursue.
Michael Beasley -- MIA declines team option. Would absolutely amaze me if the Cavs were interested.
Landry Fields -- This is a guy you could get cheap. Was good for the Knicks; hardly played for TOR. Never linked to Cavs.
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute -- Never linked to Cavs.
Jeremy Evans -- Another guy you could get on a minimum contract.

Decent list of guys actually. I wonder what KJ will get? Someone Im sure would give him full MLE or more.

Fields, Johnson, or Mbah a Moute Id take any of them for cheap. Id even consider Butler or Prince for the min (if Mike was gone).

Mo, Watson, Brooks, Lin, and Udrih would be solid backup PG's I could live with. Lin will prob get a bigger offer elsewhere. Mo is the preferance but I'd be happy with any of them taking a MLE in our terms.

 

[Real Deal]

Trade Andy at ASB? he never makes it that far!

 

[Paul]

Quick update on status of some potential FA targets for the Cavs at PG and SF that I had identified leading up to free agency:

PG

I thought this free agent class was particularly weak. There were some candidates potentially available for what the Cavs have to spend (mini MLE and minimum contracts). They are all still available.

Mo Williams -- Jared Zwerling from Bleacher Report prematurely tweeted Mo was going to MEM on a "3 or 4 year deal." But now the only options MEM has to sign him is their BAE. MMLE would trump that. As we know, Mo has been linked with Cavs.

CJ Watson -- Reportedly wants full MLE, but what he wants and what he ends up getting are different things. Never linked to Cavs to my knowledge.

Norris Cole -- New Orleans extended $3M QO, and rumors linking him with Cavs have cooled.

Beno Udrih -- Never linked to Cavs. Fact MEM interested in Mo suggests they aren't interested in Udrih and/or Calathes.

Nick Calathes -- Never linked to Cavs. MEM has extended $1.1M QO.

Jeremy Lin -- Never linked to Cavs to my knowledge.

Aaron Brooks -- Never linked to Cavs. Has been a minimum guy in recent years, but generally with an outsized role.

Ok, for the SFs. Lots more of them have committed to a team. I am only listing those that I had identified as potential FA targets for the Cavs (thus I don't include Demarre Carroll, Khris Middleton, Jae Crowder, and Al-Farouq Aminu, none of whom were ever realistic). I'm also including some names that others have mentioned.

Jonas Jerebko 2/$10M (re-signing with BOS)
Kyle Singler 5/$25M (re-signing with OKC)
Mike Dunleavy 3/$15M (re-signing with CHI)
Jared Dudley opted in and traded to WAS

Still available:

Mirza Teletovic -- Brooklyn extended $4.2M QO; will they withdraw it in view of tax bill?
Alan Anderson -- Wants $3-4M/yr per Brooklyn media
Richard Jefferson -- Not linked to Cavs (except in potential Bynum trade in early 2014).
Tayshaun Prince -- Linked to Cavs. Presumably would be a minimum guy.
Caron Butler -- Linked to Cavs. Presumably a minimum guy.
Corey Brewer -- Linked to Cavs last season. Most likely will command more than MMLE.
Omri Casspi -- No links to Cavs. Will he get MMLE type money? SAC busy with other things.
Wesley Johnson -- Not linked to Cavs. Will Lakers bring him back on a short term deal once they strike out with everyone else? Likely.
K.J. McDaniels -- Never thought he was established enough for the Cavs to pursue.
Michael Beasley -- MIA declines team option. Would absolutely amaze me if the Cavs were interested.
Landry Fields -- This is a guy you could get cheap. Was good for the Knicks; hardly played for TOR. Never linked to Cavs.
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute -- Never linked to Cavs.
Jeremy Evans -- Another guy you could get on a minimum contract.

I wonder if Gerald Green and Rodney Stuckey could also be in play. The Cavs have also reached out to Patrick Beverley.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

I wonder if Gerald Green and Rodney Stuckey could also be in play. The Cavs have also reached out to Patrick Beverley.

Beverley is restricted. Would be shocked if Rockets didn't match the mini-MLE.

 

[Gbizzo]

I wonder if Gerald Green and Rodney Stuckey could also be in play. The Cavs have also reached out to Patrick Beverley.

I like Stuckey. Better creator than JR.

 

[Lazor]

Beverley is restricted. Would be shocked if Rockets didn't match the mini-MLE.

Yea and the way this free agency period is going I wouldn't be surprised to see another team offer him around 10 million aka the Knicks which I actually think he would be a good fit there

 

[Real Deal]

Hopefully we make some news tomorrow regarding the Haywood situation, leaked reports, something.

Haven't heard shit about Uncle Rizzy's Ariza source talk about making shit up because you have the power to do so.

 

[kovanovich]

Beverley is restricted. Would be shocked if Rockets didn't match the mini-MLE.

Maybe I should have included him since there was a link with the Cavs. Didn't seem realistic to me, unless Houston gets serious about Aldridge and needs to play the cap space game. Doesn't seem things are moving that way though.

 

[Jscc]

I like Stuckey. Better creator than JR.

Maybe earlier in his career he was. Both have around the same APG and assist percentages now. But considering J.R. can shoot, he's a better two guard than Stuckey is.

 

[3 Ball...GOT IT]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 39s39 seconds ago
Wes Matthews Latest: ESPN sources say Matthews' camp has notified Kings he's unlikely to take their offer, making Dallas even more likely

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[supermario21]

REJECTED...George Karl is going to end up getting fired next lol. Kings just dumped serviceable players and assets for nothing.

 

[KingDavidBlatt]

Just for the ''out of left field'' possibility - Devin Smith from Maccabi would be a woderful fit. He's a legit SF, can score, rebound, and is one of the best defenders in Europe. And, of course, played for Blatt for 3 years.
During the finals I was acually thinking that he'd really work well on the Cavs.
He's on contract, but those normally have an NBA clause buyout...

 

[Rich]

They're about to go after JR Smith. I feel it coming.

 

[Snarly]

REJECTED...George Karl is going to end up getting fired next lol. Kings just dumped serviceable players and assets for nothing.

If I am them I trade Gay and Cousins take a look at them selfs and just start all over.