Cavaliers Offseason Thread

[PeonHaiters]

As long as on the day that you die, you die a Cleveland Cavaliers fan. It's as simple as that.

Except for those bastards that become fans on the actual day they die. I hate that shit. Just because you converted to the Cavs on your death bed, doesn't mean you're getting into Cavaliers heaven.

 

[BimboColesHair]

Maybe I'm too hung over right now, and not reading what you're saying correctly. So you think it can happen now?

No, I don't...that's why I said "Joe Johnson probably won't be bought out" to someone suggesting it could happen this summer, which you proceeded to respond to with "Joe Johnson probably won't get bought out? *tries not to laugh*".

 

[Helium filament]

Kind of cool, the premier is at the same theater I always see movies in. (it's not a great theater TBH lol)

 

[PITCavsFan]

Really doesn't make sense for Brooklyn to even consider such a move unless it gets them completely out of the tax.

Look at the numbers on Johnson and Williams’ contracts, that’s a combined buyout reduction of $17-18 million dollars or an average of $8.5-9 million per year.

I think for Williams that makes a lot of sense, because he can easily turn around and sign for an amount comparable to that with Dallas but for Johnson? He has a much tougher go because most of the teams where there would be mutual interest can only offer min salary deals.

He would still be set to make $15-16 million in that scenario AND play for a team of his choice, so maybe it could happen. He’s never going to recoup that money at this point, so he’d have to be really desperate to get the hell out of there. Especially when he could play half the year, collect $12.5 million and then negotiate a more advantageous buyout post All-Star.

I don't believe a buyout gets them out of the tax unless they use the stretch provision. The contractual salary would still count.

if johnson were to get bought out, he goes to the highest bidder right??

We could bid a vet min i guess

Unless we could bid w a tpe?? Turn haywood jablowme into a tpe and bid 10 milly??

I believe he becomes a free agent. The bid process was for amnestied players.


I could be wrong, though

 

[godfather]

No, I don't...that's why I said "Joe Johnson probably won't be bought out" to someone suggesting it could happen this summer, which you proceeded to respond to with "Joe Johnson probably won't get bought out? *tries not to laugh*".

I said he probably won't get bought out right now. But he is likely to get bought out this season though.

I don't know for sure, no one does obviously. I was saying one, the Nets are bad, two, he's 34, and three he's making 25 million.

The Nets OBVIOUSLY have to agree to want to buy him out, and I see no indication they wouldn't want to do it. Whether that's now, or as the season progresses, when they are most likely terrible.

Right now? Probably not happening for Joe Johnson, then again, we saw David West just opt out of 11 million. That doesn't mean Joe is thinking the same. For all I know he wants his money, and he's fine with playing on a garbage team.

But say there's 12 million remaining on his contract, sometime in the middle of the season, the Nets are in the tanker, it's very likely he could get bought out of his contract then.

It's hard to see him getting bought of 25 million at this point, but when half of that money has been paid to him already? Well, then that's a different story.

 

[gratefuldead]

I don't believe a buyout gets them out of the tax unless they use the stretch provision. The contractual salary would still count.



I believe he becomes a free agent. The bid process was for amnestied players.


I could be wrong, though

Josh smith went to thw highest bidder?

Is stretch provision considered a buyout?

 

[PITCavsFan]

Josh smith went to thw highest bidder?

Is stretch provision considered a buyout?

Smith cleared waivers.

Stretch provision allows the contractual salary (not the buyout amount) to count over more years (3-5 i think). So instead of $20-some million over 1 year, they could stretch it to count at $4-8 million over a number of years.

 

[gratefuldead]

Well can u sign guys into a tpe or bid w one?

 

[MirORich]

Well can u sign guys into a tpe or bid w one?

No. TPE is for trades. You can't sign and absorb a FA into it

 

[PITCavsFan]

Well can u sign guys into a tpe or bid w one?

You can use the MLE, which we used most of for Mo

 

[BimboColesHair]

I said he probably won't get bought out right now. But he is likely to get bought out this season though.

I don't know for sure, no one does obviously. I was saying one, the Nets are bad, two, he's 34, and three he's making 25 million.

The Nets OBVIOUSLY have to agree to want to buy him out, and I see no indication they wouldn't want to do it. Whether that's now, or as the season progresses, when they are most likely terrible.

Right now? Probably not happening for Joe Johnson, then again, we saw David West just opt out of 11 million. That doesn't mean Joe is thinking the same. For all I know he wants his money, and he's fine with playing on a garbage team.

But say there's 12 million remaining on his contract, sometime in the middle of the season, the Nets are in the tanker, it's very likely he could get bought out of his contract then.

It's hard to see him getting bought of 25 million at this point, but when half of that money has been paid to him already? Well, then that's a different story.

Again, which is exactly what I was saying in response to someone suggesting the Deron Williams chatter means Johnson could be bought out this summer as well...you then used my exact words of "Joe Johnson probably won't be bought out" to drop this condescending line "Joe Johnson probably won't get bought out? *tries not to laugh*"...only thing I'm having an issue with.

Anyways, back on topic.

 

[JS33]

Zzzzzzzzz

 

[malus]

Zzzzzzzzz

Irving / Williams / Delly
Shumpert / ???? / Joke Millis
Lebron / ????
Love / Andy
Mozgov / Thompson

LOOK AT THESE SPOTS. THEY ARE READY TO BE FILLED. I HAVEN'T ROSTERBATED IN DAYS.

 

[Ob1]

Where's shump?

 

[Ohio]

I need some big Cavs news dammit