Cavaliers Offseason Thread

[CavsRules]

I agree with everything you said. He would fit, in the X's and O's sense, very well on this team. The question that needs to be asked is Joe ready for that? If he comes here and fills the "6th man, do everything, albeit, playing less minutes" role, that's awesome. However, that is a complete career change for him. He has been paid like the man for years. He has been relied upon to be a team's 1st or 2nd option since he rose to stardom in Phoenix.

If we bring him on this year, what happens next year? Would he be willing to play a couple more years with a much smaller contract? That, IMO, is the most likely holdup if this deal is still being considered behind closed doors. We are not about to ship out one of our most beloved Cavs for a highly overpriced one year rental. DG and Griff have to be looking at the value in the long run.

I mean, he's 34 years old now, I think he understands at this point he isn't gonna be the No.1 option much longer.

I make the deal regardless if Johnson signs on a few more years, but I personally think he does.. Just because the Cavs could go over the cap even more to retain him, and he would fit into his projected role pretty nice.

But, of course, we don't know all of that.. So I guess that is another holdup in the process.

 

[Dr. Claw]

doesnt matter where you're from. if you stayed up till 3/4 am just to watch some scrubs lose 26 games in a row in the most beautiful tankjob the world has ever witnessed, you've defenitely earned the right to call yourself a cavs fan.

Crying laughing at this

That was one of the GOAT tanks

 

[Walter White]

Looks like Deron Williams is seeking a Buyout

View: https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096


I wonder if that would impact the Nets desire to salary dump Johnson

I still think they want to dump Joe regardless. I just think we don't want to let Andy go. Not sure what we can do with the Haywood contract now, it's been quiet lately. But maybe that is a good thing.

 

[TheLand1287]

I still think they want to dump Joe regardless. I just think we don't want to let Andy go. Not sure what we can do with the Haywood contract now, it's been quiet lately. But maybe that is a good thing.

Agreed, I think quiet may be good. The Love announcement last week, Mo signing on Monday night, and LeBron re-signing yesterday all kind of just happened suddenly.

 

[Helium filament]

 

[The Red Viper]

I am from Europe, from country that most of people from USA doesn't even know

EDIN DZEKO FTW!

 

[Kbiz]

Agreed, I think quiet may be good. The Love announcement last week, Mo signing on Monday night, and LeBron re-signing yesterday all kind of just happened suddenly.

That is how DG and Griff operate. Silence has been good to us this past year. Stay sneaky...

 

[Gbizzo]

I didn't think about a buy out for Johnson. How would that work with a trade and lining up trade values. Would he become a free agent? Or value would be equal to the buy out amount?
I would pay him 8-9 million for 3 years. Give the Nets Haywood and Kaun.
Then Verejao to Memphis for Jeff Green.
Highway robbery!

 

[Gbizzo]

I have always liked Mitch!
Mitch McGary putback dunk has been the highlight of the Thunder's summer league View: https://vine.co/v/enlrvqpU0Uq


What about Hansborough as a 5th big if we give up Andy? He would be good on a good team.

 

[PITCavsFan]

I didn't think about a buy out for Johnson. How would that work with a trade and lining up trade values. Would he become a free agent? Or value would be equal to the buy out amount?
I would pay him 8-9 million for 3 years. Give the Nets Haywood and Kaun.
Then Verejao to Memphis for Jeff Green.
Highway robbery!

I have no idea what you're suggesting. This isn't even close to working. We have no cap space to sign him for anything but the minimum if he's bought out, and there's no way a trade like this could work.

Varejao for Green works straight up, but I wouldn't do that.

 

[Gbizzo]

I have no idea what you're suggesting. This isn't even close to working. We have no cap space to sign him for anything but the minimum if he's bought out, and there's no way a trade like this could work.

Varejao for Green works straight up, but I wouldn't do that.

That's why I asked. The three way trade it is then. I just saw something implying he might try to get a buy out, but no good team have space so that wouldn't help unless he took a min deal like you said. We can accept a sign and trade anyways. No worries.

 

[PITCavsFan]

That's why I asked. The three way trade it is then. I just saw something implying he might try to get a buy out, but no good team have space so that wouldn't help unless he took a min deal like you said. We can accept a sign and trade anyways. No worries.

Here's a useful tool for figuring out if a trade works: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Try it out.

 

[BimboColesHair]

I have no idea what you're suggesting. This isn't even close to working. We have no cap space to sign him for anything but the minimum if he's bought out, and there's no way a trade like this could work.

Varejao for Green works straight up, but I wouldn't do that.

I don't think this is a far-fetched as you are trying to make it sound. Johnson would get paid very handsomely if he was bought out by the Nets, so much so that I bet he would go ring chasing for the vet minimum.

This doesn't really matter, though, as I don't think they would buy him out.

 

[PITCavsFan]

I don't think this is a far-fetched as you are trying to make it sound. Johnson would get paid very handsomely if he was bought out by the Nets, so much so that I bet he would go ring chasing for the vet minimum.

This doesn't really matter, though, as I don't think they would buy him out.

I wasn't saying it wouldn't happen, just that we couldn't give him $8-9m. But, I agree - he probably won't get bought out.

 

[godfather]

Interesting that Duncan signed a TWO year deal.

And why some people might not think that's a big deal, meaning he might not come back.

I heard Duncan recently lost 10 million dollars in an investment gone bad. So he's re-upped for two more years, to make that money up?

Hey, 10 million is a lot of money to anyone.

Doesn't sound like this is his last year.