Cavaliers Offseason Thread

[shoes22]

Chris Fedor is spewing nonsense on 92.3 about backloading contracts for Tristan and Iman. Can somebody call in and explain to him that such contracts aren’t legal in the current CBA?

 

[nikolajz1]

Chris Fedor is spewing nonsense on 92.3 about backloading contracts for Tristan and Iman. Can somebody call in and explain to him that such contracts aren’t legal in the current CBA?

It really surprises me how idiotic all of out media guys are about the cap. Seriously is it that hard to spend the night reading this (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm) to be an informed journalist?

 

[Binkster]

You guys joke all you want, but dude has been resting his body for a full year. He's going to be locked and loaded for this year. Lebron said he didn't expect big things in this first year and that the team would be ready sometime after that...well, resting Miller was all a part of that plan.

 

[MalTalm]

So what voodoo 4 team trade brings Melo to Cleveland? [emoji2]

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

EVERY player tips the ball a lot. Are you saying that TT tips the ball more than every other player in a statistically significant way?

No, but that's an absurd standard. I am saying that I think he tips the ball more than does the average rebounder, and probably in a statistically significant way.

Did you deliberately not quote literally the exact next sentence defining a rebound chance? "Measures the number of rebounds a player recovers compared to the number of rebounding chances available as well as whether or not the rebound was contested by an opponent or deferred to a teammate."

The sentence you are quoting does not appear in the definition of "reb. chances per game under which the data appears." At least, not on my screen. I quoted that language verbatim in the heading of that exact column.

The sentence you are quoting appears (at least on my screen) in a general sentence that is not associated with any particular column of data, and describes "rebounding opportunity."

It specifically does not appear in the definition of "reb chances per game", which as I stated initially, is defined solely as "the number of times a player was within the vicinity (3.5ft.) of a rebound." Again, at least on my screen, the statement in that column header is not qualified or limited in any way by the presence of opposing or friendly players.

No. It is a percentage of a player's rebounds that were contested. Conversely for uncontested rebounds, the higher the number, the more likely the player is a slow big who is the designated defensive rebounder that I discussed in the previous post.

Right. We're not in disagreement on that.

Your statistics do not say what you think they do. All you showed was that LMA gets more uncontested rebounds per game. So what?

No, that's not what I showed. What I showed was that TT gets more contested rebounds despite playing substantially fewer minutes than LMA. To the extent you're going to use any of those stats to determine who is the "better rebounder", I personally would value the ability to get contested rebounds over the ability to get uncontested rebounds. But you have pointed to the "percentage of rebounds per chance" column as justifying your opinion that TT isn't a very good rebounder.

So you do agree that these stats are valuable?

They can be useful as a starting point to look more closely at a player with whom you are unfamiliar. If you're impressed by someone's raw numbers, it may be lead you to want to watch some games to see if they're as impressive as the numbers would suggest.

But in terms of evaluating players whom you do actually watch, I think they are just as likely to mislead as to inform.

 

[texascavsfan]

So what voodoo 4 team trade brings Melo to Cleveland? [emoji2]

No doubt it would involve some help from:
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[Simon]

 

[FiveThous]

and how do we go about getting Beverly?

 

[Dr. Claw]

I'm a bit of a Dunleavy skeptic myself. Maybe Blatt can get him to be an effective bench guy, but any of you analytics guys able to make the case? (Edit: I saw the earlier post). Well, considering he IS a bench guy, he might be a good addition. As long as he's cheap

 

[MirORich]

Would have to take the taxpayer MLE

Also, he's repped by the same agent as Delly, which makes this even less likely as long as Delly stays here. Agents usually don't like to have two of their clients vying for minutes and earning potential.

 

[Dr. Claw]

Would have to take the taxpayer MLE

Also, he's repped by the same agent as Delly, which makes this even less likely as long as Delly stays here. Agents usually don't like to have two of their clients vying for minutes and earning potential.

So basically, he's out.
Wonder who the Cavs can even acquire with their options. Just saw Affalo going for ridiculous money to the Knicks (lol).

 

[Danny Arison]

Would have to take the taxpayer MLE

Also, he's repped by the same agent as Delly, which makes this even less likely as long as Delly stays here. Agents usually don't like to have two of their clients vying for minutes and earning potential.

What if Delly plays the backup SG? ge is 6'4 and is a better spot up shooter than ball handler..

 

[priceFTW]

On Dunleavy:

He's a very good team defender and communicates well with his teammates and has learned a great deal from Thibs.

He was 10th among all SFs in DRPM this season at 2.17 and 11th last year at 1.91 so it's no fluke. Guys like Miller and Jones have never been plus defenders (maybe Mike was at best a neutral defender in a few early seasons with Memphis). He was also one of only 18 players who were at least +1 in ORPM and +2 in DRPM (LeBron, AD, Kwahi, Draymond G., Danny G., Milsap, Pachulia, Tyson Chandler, Zach Randolph, Hayward, DeAndre Jordan, Wes Matthews, Derrick Favors, Cody Zeller).

The Bulls were 3.8 points per 100 possessions better with him on court. In the playoffs, they were 17.2 points per 100 possessions better with him on court. In his 13 seasons in the NBA, his teams have been better with him on court than off 10 times. In the playoff series against the Cavs, he was +1 while on court for 227 minutes and the Bulls were a total of 26 points better with him on the court than when he was off court.

Dunleavy was top 19% in the league in spot up PPP at 1.10. For reference, JR Smith was top 4% at 1.23 PPP, Kyrie was top 9% at 1.17 PPP, and KLove was top 15% at 1.12 PPP. He shot 45% on corner threes, 65% in the playoffs. NBA.com's tracking shots page is down--will update when up how he does on taking open and wide open shots.

His spot up defense wasn't great as he allowed 1.03 PPP, bottom 35%.

His ISO defense was really good. He allowed .67 PPP in ISO, 14th best among players who played 60+ ISO defensive possessions/

He was pretty good defending off of screens. He allowed .83 PPP, good for top 40% in the league. He was decent in defending the pick and roll ball handler, top 48%.

Overall, he's a two way player who knows his role and would give us another plus player in the rotation and make the team stronger. In addition, we won't have to see him make annoying 27 footers against us.

 

[priceFTW]

One little extra tidbit about Splitter and why the Cavs might want him:

For players who contested at least 60 spot up shots, Splitter has allowed the least PPP at .66, best in the NBA. Opponents shot only 28% against him (18 for 64). He can go out and contest shots against small ball lineups.

Spot up shooting defense:

Mozgov: 1.19 PPP, bottom 10%. TT: 1.02 PPP, bottom 36%. JJ: 1.14 PPP, bottom 15%. Splitter: .66 PPP, best in the NBA.

 

[MirORich]

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