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Cavaliers supposedly monitoring Zach Randolph

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-we need serious help down low which Z is struggling,av sucks,ben is on his decline & jj is a ROOKIE

I agree we could use some depth down low. I also agree that Ben is on the decline and JJ is a ROOKIE, but Z isn't really struggling and AV DOES NOT suck.

The only way I would consider Zach, is if it included Lee from them and Wallace from us somehow...
 
The only way I would consider Zach, is if it included Lee from them and Wallace from us somehow...

Exactly. This is the only scenario I could see Ferry realistically doing.

And I would say the Knicks would have to add a 1st rounder as well because of what it would do to our cap situation.
 
Well, this is very disappointing news...
 
You read the article wrong. Its not the Cleveland Cavs monitering Randolph...Its the Cleveland Clinic. NY is being cautious since he came in so out of shape. :chuckles:
 
How is z struggling? He is shooting about 50% from the field in the preseason and averaging like 11/5 in 21mpg.

Andy is shooting 52% and averaging 7/4 in just 20mpg

Ben Wallace.....sucks, but he is a better defender than Randolph even with his rapid decline.

We have no need to make this trade, we are not in a desperate situation to make an irrational move like this. We have some trade pieces and will have the opportunity to make a good deal around the deadline if needed.

well i should have been more specific..i meant low-posting from Z,what we actually need from a big...andy & his jumpers isn't what we actually need from a big......ben wallace is a question mark if he can play a lot this season b/c he is already having back problems...i know i love ben's d but at the same time he has no offense.....we can probably get zach to play solid d(of course not as ben) but at the same time he will help us down-low with like every category....
 
Zach is a perimeter guy, he gives you less low post scoring than Z....
 
Lock this damn thread before Heath gets in....LOCK IT NOW!
:chuckles: Too damn late.


Anyway, since it has been brought up...

I am not a fan of Randolph, but if LeBron wanted it done, then I'd be all for it.

Assuming that LeBron wanted it done, then this is the only deal that I see as a possibility:

Randolph & Lee for Ben Wallace.

We start "Z" at Center, and Randolph at PF.

We have AV and Lee play the 2nd squad.

Our 1st team:

C: Zydrunas
PF: Randolph
SF: LeBron
SG: Delonte
PG: Williams

2nd team:

C: Varejao
PF: Lee
SF: Wally
SG: Sasha
PG: Boobie

3rd team:

Wright
Hickson
Jackson
Jawad
Kinsey

* (Jackson will be sent to DL until Snow is officially retired)


I really dont see a Wally for Zach deal.... even with Lee included. I think the Cavs would be willing to take Randolph with Lee, if they could send out Wallace. I don't think Ferry would dump Wally's contract so easily.

I think a Randolph + Lee, for Wallace, would be a great deal for us. And I think NY would be happy with their end.... Not Hysterically happy... but they'd be happy that they'd have a shot at a big FA in 2010. That would be enough right there.
 
(Jackson will be sent to DL until Snow is officially retired)

players sent to the DL still count against the 15 man roster. The Cavs would have to waive someone, probably Jawad, since he isn't guaranteed. Or better yet, the Cavs give Hickson a run for the first 20 games and see if they'd rather keep him than trade for Randolph.
 
Monitoring him like a hurricane incase they need to evacuate. Z-Bo (such a terrible "Knick"name) is the complete opposite of what this Cavs FO has gone after. Randolph will never be here. Ne-VAH!!
 
I don't see how a Wallace for Randolph and Lee trade would hurt us?

Let me rephrase the situation this way:

We have a player Ben Wallace, and a fairy comes down and says he can turn Ben Wallace into David Lee. All we have to do is extend Wallace's contract for one more year. We significantly upgrade the player, but we have to deal with him having a bloated contract for 3 years instead of 2. Would you do it? (I understand Lee's contract is expiring, but we will be able to reacquire him under the Larry Bird clause)

That's the absolute worst thing that can happen with this trade. Even if we get absolutely no contribution from Randolph, and we just put him on the bench, we get an upgrade in exchange for one extra year of a bad contract (an important contract year, i understand, but still).


Lee, who's basically the perfect PF to start alongside Z....I see us using him on first team, and then AV/Randolph on the second team, because that gives us one big man who can make his own shot on each side of the ball, and one helper who is high percentage when he gets the ball in good position. I think that's a more dangerous match up.

We get to resign 25 year old David Lee next year, and can also resign AV. Lee, AV, Hickson is a pretty good rotation of PF/C for the long term, though AV is a little short at center, our bigs are pretty decent because LBJ can play there too.

We still have Szczerbiak to trade, and this opens us up to the possibility of trading AV/Szczerbiak for a top flight 2/3 at the trade deadline (Gerard Wallace?). Presently this is an impossibility because we don't have the numbers of big men necessary to trade AV. This leaves us a good PF rotation in Lee/Hickson, and three top flight players in LBJ, Mo Williams, and whoever we get. That's a team that could win a championship.

~Lyuokdea
 
All we have to do is extend Wallace's contract for one more year.

That's a major problem when the year in question is 2010/2011, and the money owed is $17.3 million.

So it's not necessarily do you want Randolph/Lee over Wallace, it's more like do you want Randolph/Lee over Chris Bosh? over Dwyane Wade? etc etc?

And not only do you give up a shot at signing that 2nd superstar, but you've also put the Knicks in to position to bid on LeBron.:thumbdown
 
As much as getting Lee along with Randolph for Ben is exciting, I say we stay patient and just shop Wally for a better deal, at this point I want a SG over a PF....and who knows what can happen in 2010, I say we take the risk on the hope of a star in 2010 then going all out right now.
 
You read the article wrong. Its not the Cleveland Cavs monitering Randolph...Its the Cleveland Clinic. NY is being cautious since he came in so out of shape. :chuckles:
U got it wrong too..its the Staph thats monitoring Zach if he comes here...he's just a piece of meat..:chuckles:
 

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