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[Amherstcavsfan]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Ken Whisenhunt has been, and always will be, an offense based head coach.

Don't see why it means he'll be a 3-4 guy. Pretty sure his defense his first year in Phoenix was the 4-3.

 

[Nw220]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

One thing i would perfer is an offensive minded coach, dont hate Whisenhunt but id perfer an offensive minded HC...I just feel that Jauron and his staff havent done a terrible job and we may be 1 or 2 more players from having a top 5 legit D...As though I feel the Offense needs a whole new identiy...

 

[Wulfgar1224]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Nothing wrong with going 3-4. Our 4-3 defense was pretty bad last year and actually took a step back. Either way it needs multiple personal upgrades.

IMO, switching to the 43 was one of the best decisions the Browns have made in years. It would be a disaster IMO to switch to the 34 again. The Browns don't have the 3-4 OLB types on this roster. In addition to that , the main strength of the d line is depth at DT. It would be negated if they switched to the 34. Right now, all the Browns need is another 43 DE to complete the defensive line. If they switch to the 34, all bets are off. It is not clear at all if any of our tackles could move to a 34 DE position. Plus, I wouldn't want Sheard standing up in coverage either as an OLB. We need to hire a coach that is willing to keep the 43 defense.

 

[billmac91]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

This year he benched Skelton for Lindey up 13 on the last undefeated team in the league. Even Shurmur wouldnt pull a stunt like that.

Whisenhunt's game management is head-scratching. Can't remember what year it was, but his team was up 21 points mid third quarter, and the guy goes 2 straight possessions only throwing the ball and going 3 and out both times. He had never committed to a legit run game, and without Kurt Warner his O-lines have consistently been awful.

And even the year the Cardinals made the Super Bowl, they didn't exactly dominate. They were 9-7.

It sucks it's sounding the Browns are about to hire a retread after missing their target. And there are still guys to really kick the tires on, IMO.

 

[Pick6]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

What I dont get about the Wisenhunt apologists about his QB situation is that we are acting like he is actually going to have a solid QB in Cleveland...

 

[Soar]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

We didn't get enough pressure. Two part problem.

The easier fix would just be to grab a DE in the draft imo. Just so happens that DE is a very strong position in this draft especially at the top. Jordan, Werner, Moore etc.

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

IMO, switching to the 43 was one of the best decisions the Browns have made in years. It would be a disaster IMO to switch to the 34 again. The Browns don't have the 3-4 OLB types on this roster. In addition to that , the main strength of the d line is depth at DT. It would be negated if they switched to the 34. Right now, all the Browns need is another 43 DE to complete the defensive line. If they switch to the 34, all bets are off. It is not clear at all if any of our tackles could move to a 34 DE position. Plus, I wouldn't want Sheard standing up in coverage either as an OLB. We need to hire a coach that is willing to keep the 43 defense.

Sheard blew this year in the 43. Maybe the 34 would be better for him.

 

[NorthCoastBias]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Philadelphia Eagles, Cleveland Browns back at square one

By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League editor

Oregon coach Chip Kelly isn't going anywhere. The Philadelphia Eagles and Cleveland Browns, meanwhile, are back at square one.

Ian Rapoport of NFL.com confirmed Sunday night that Kelly will stay in college after dining for the better part of the weekend with both NFL teams. The French-like length of Kelly's meals indicated that he was serious about coming to the NFL this time, but ultimately he didn't find what he was looking for.

It's a huge setback for both organizations, no matter how they spin it. (And they've already started.) The Browns landed in Arizona and spent valuable time zeroing in on their No. 1 target. Meanwhile, their No. 2 target, Doug Marrone, became the new head coach of the Buffalo Bills.

The Eagles were also interested in Marrone, and both teams met with Penn State coach Bill O'Brien. O'Brien is staying at his job.

Philadelphia wanted an offensive mind to re-energize the franchise, and focused on college coaches. They don't have a clear favorite for the job now. They've interviewed Falcons defensive coordinator Mike Nolan, Falcons special-teams coordinator Keith Armstrong, and Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy. Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, Seahawks defensive coordinator Gus Bradley, and Bengals offensive coordinator are on the team's to-do list.

In short: The Eagles are on to their second tier of candidates. They hope to find someone that wows them.

The Browns are in a similar position. They've also met with Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton and former Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt, but they don't have a clear leader in the clubhouse. They are expected to open their search up.

Only Kelly knows why he stayed at Oregon. It may have been the money, but it was more likely the power. (Control of the roster.) Whatever the reason, the Eagles and Browns wanted him badly. Their actions said it all. They swung and missed.

One week after the end of a painful regular season, the Eagles and Browns lost again on Sunday.

LINK

 

[Pick6]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Sheard blew this year in the 43. Maybe the 34 would be better for him.

What about our 4 man DT rotation? We just spent a 1st on Taylor, paid Rubin, reached on a 3rd for Hughes, and also drafted Winn, who is better than Hughes

 

[RealKingofCleve]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

What about our 4 man DT rotation? We just spent a 1st on Taylor, paid Rubin, reached on a 3rd for Hughes, and also drafted Winn, who is better than Hughes

Hughes and Winn could very well play de in the 3-4.

 

[Soar]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

What I dont get about the Wisenhunt apologists about his QB situation is that we are acting like he is actually going to have a solid QB in Cleveland...

What coach isn't solid without a good QB? Both are huge problems here. You don't pass on a good coach because you don't have a good QB. We need both.

 

[billmac91]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

What coach isn't solid without a good QB? Both are huge problems here. You don't pass on a good coach because you don't have a good QB. We need both.

Whisenhunt is also the guy that pushed hard for Kolb. That was his call, and it was a brutal one. I don't get the infatuation with Whisenhunt. His best season was 9-7 and he doesn't done jack since.

 

[Pick6]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Whisenhunt is also the guy that pushed hard for Kolb. That was his call, and it was a brutal one. I don't get the infatuation with Whisenhunt. His best season was 9-7 and he doesn't done jack since.

9-7 with Kurt Warner throwing to Fitz and Boldin. They got lucky and got hot at the right time, IMO.

If they hire Wisenhunt, then whatever. I'll happily eat my words if he does good, but I do not get the infatuation with him, really.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Did we suddenly forget that Kurt Warner was in his late 30s, coming off years where he probably should have been retired in New York?

I mean, yeah, Warner is great, but Whisenhunt needs to get some respect for getting those performances out of the guy at his age. And it's no big secret that the main reason the Cardinals suck is because of their shit offensive line.

They started out 4-0 this year.

 

[Soar]

Re: Browns coaching search *Chip Kelly out* post#1612

Whisenhunt is also the guy that pushed hard for Kolb. That was his call, and it was a brutal one. I don't get the infatuation with Whisenhunt. His best season was 9-7 and he doesn't done jack since.

I hear you. I'm not infatuated with the guy. I think he would be solid. The problem is that there are no perfect candidates out there.