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Dion is capable of putting games up like this. That's never been the problem. The problem has always been doing it on a consistent basis.
 
Lazor said:
Dion is capable of putting games up like this. That's never been the problem. The problem has always been doing it on a consistent basis.
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More stinkers than quality games. Kind of like a 5th rotational pitcher, he's just giving them a good quality start tonight.
 
Guess Dion just needs to start at SF. Shouldn't be an issue on OKC.
 
Rich said:
No he didn't.



Yea, who cares if shoothing guards that shoot a ton can't actually shoot. No biggie.
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people seem to have short term memories. I can regurgitate stats and production as well as other things to support what i stated but there is really no point to it. 30 games production to 140 games would indicate this is an overall slump by Dion as an anomoly not what he is.

Dion was reinstated as a starter last season and the teams fg% shot up and then came back down once kyrie returned. Kyrie showed poor team leadership skills on the court last season anyway you look at it. at least Dion looked to get his teammates involved.

anyways I was trying to put things in context. shoulda known better.

Im still not sure what Kyrie has to do with Dion anyways as one is a superstar talent point guard and the other is not.people setting the expectation that Dion should perform as well as Kyrie or be an abject failure is what made Dions stay in Cleveland all the more absurd
 
Tornicade said:
people seem to have short term memories. I can regurgitate stats and production as well as other things to support what i stated but there is really no point to it. 30 games production to 140 games would indicate this is an overall slump by Dion as an anomoly not what he is.

Dion was reinstated as a starter last season and the teams fg% shot up and then came back down once kyrie returned. Kyrie showed poor team leadership skills on the court last season anyway you look at it. at least Dion looked to get his teammates involved.

anyways I was trying to put things in context. shoulda known better.

Im still not sure what Kyrie has to do with Dion anyways as one is a superstar talent point guard and the other is not.people setting the expectation that Dion should perform as well as Kyrie or be an abject failure is what made Dions stay in Cleveland all the more absurd
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The only anomaly in waiters career is a brief stretch of games post all-star break last year which made some people think that he was anything but an inefficient chucker.
 
Tornicade said:
people seem to have short term memories. I can regurgitate stats and production as well as other things to support what i stated but there is really no point to it. 30 games production to 140 games would indicate this is an overall slump by Dion as an anomoly not what he is.

Dion was reinstated as a starter last season and the teams fg% shot up and then came back down once kyrie returned. Kyrie showed poor team leadership skills on the court last season anyway you look at it. at least Dion looked to get his teammates involved.

anyways I was trying to put things in context. shoulda known better.

Im still not sure what Kyrie has to do with Dion anyways as one is a superstar talent point guard and the other is not.people setting the expectation that Dion should perform as well as Kyrie or be an abject failure is what made Dions stay in Cleveland all the more absurd
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You are aware that Dion himself is the one that had the belief that he was just as good, if not better than Kyrie, right?
 
I think Dion's biggest problem is that he can't get out of his own way. He has the talent and skill set to be a good NBA player, but lacks the self-awareness and intelligence to alter his game in order to become one. It's pretty easy for everyone to see what he needs to do to be a good player, but for some reason he either can't see them himself or just outright refuses to do those things.
 
Lets stop the total bashing of Dion. He is still a 3rd year player with upside. He didn't work here for several reasons, but mainly attitude and ball dominance.

If Dion comes back in the 2nd half of the season and does well that doesn't mean it was a bad trade for the Cavs as we also got shump and half of Timmy on top of JR.

So lets try and be a bit more honest about dion so those that want to truly follow him don't have to sift through all the unneeded hate.
 
Lee said:
So lets try and be a bit more honest about dion so those that want to truly follow him don't have to sift through all the unneeded hate.
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Fair enough -- not much point in posting just to bash him.

He had a good game starting last night, and was listed as the starting 3. I remember his numbers here when he was considered the 3 -- mostly based on who he is guarding -- were pretty good as well. I wonder if it is a statistical oddity, or if it actually means something.
 
The Human Q-Tip said:
Fair enough -- not much point in posting just to bash him.

He had a good game starting last night, and was listed as the starting 3. I remember his numbers here when he was considered the 3 -- mostly based on who he is guarding -- were pretty good as well. I wonder if it is a statistical oddity, or if it actually means something.
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It probably has to do with ball movement. If he's playing the 3, chances are there are 2 people who can pass next to him, which I've always felt is where he's at his best, in an offense that moves the ball.
 
Lol the token good game for a volume shooter

/yawn

Sun shines on a dogs ass every now and then
 
qaws23 said:
Why not? He did it last season especially after the all star break when he was able to play his game and was a consistent scorer for us.

Post All-Star Break Dion Waiters: 19.2 PPG on 45.2% from the field, 37.7% from 3, and 74.1% from the line in 33.0 MPG.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/6628/year/2014/dion-waiters
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That 20 game stretch is the only reason Dion still has a fan or two left.

As I've said before, I can find any volume shooter and throw together a small string of games that look like this. For a 15 game stretch last season Nick Young was an all-star.
 
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Solid line from Dion tonight.
 
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