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[Maximus]

Rand Paul: ‘Can You Imagine If A Whole Ship Full Of Our Soldiers Catch Ebola?’
October 2, 2014 9:04 AM
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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., speaks to students at the College of Charleston during a town hall meeting on Sept. 30, 2014 in Charleston, S.C. (credit: Richard Ellis/Getty Images)


WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., is questioning President Barack Obama’s decision to send 3,000 U.S. military personnel to West Africa to help combat Ebola, worrying that troops might contract the virus.

Speaking to “The Laura Ingraham Show” Wednesday about the first case of Ebola inside the U.S., the potential 2016 presidential contender stated it has to be a concern about having thousands of soldiers on the same ship who could have been in contact with the deadly virus.

“You also have to be concerned about 3,000 soldiers getting back on a ship. Where is disease most transmittable? When you’re in a very close confines on a ship, we all know about cruises and how they get these diarrhea viruses that are transmitted very easily,” Paul told Ingraham. “Can you imagine if a whole ship full of our soldiers catch Ebola?’

Paul said he felt “political correctness” is getting in the way of government officials making sound decisions to deal with the Ebola threat.

“I really think that it is being dominated by political correctness and I think because of political correctness we’re not really making sound, rational, scientific decisions on this,” Paul noted.

Paul warned about the “transmissibility” of the virus.

“We should not underestimate the transmissibility of this,” Paul said. “My suspicion is that it’s a lot more transmissible than that if people who are taking every precaution are getting it. There are people getting it who simply helped people get in or out of a taxicab.”

The senator from Kentucky added: “It’s a big mistake to underestimate the potential for problems worldwide.”

Since the summer months, U.S. health officials have been preparing for the possibility that an individual traveler could unknowingly arrive with the infection. Health authorities have advised hospitals on how to prevent the virus from spreading within their facilities.

People boarding planes in the outbreak zone are checked for fever, but that does not guarantee that an infected person won’t get through.

Liberia is one of the three hardest-hit countries in the epidemic, along with Sierra Leone and Guinea.

Ebola is believed to have sickened more than 6,500 people in West Africa, and more than 3,000 deaths have been linked to the disease, according to the World Health Organization. But even those tolls are probably underestimates, partially because there are not enough labs to test people for Ebola.

Two mobile Ebola labs staffed by American naval researchers arrived this weekend and will be operational this week, according to the U.S. Embassy in Monrovia. The labs will reduce the amount of time it takes to learn if a patient has Ebola from several days to a few hours.

The U.S. military also delivered equipment to build a field hospital, originally designed to treat troops in combat zones. The 25-bed clinic will be staffed by American health workers and will treat doctors and nurses who have become infected. The U.S. is planning to build 17 other clinics in Liberia and will help train more health workers to staff them.

 

[gourimoko]

(((Eagerly awaits Gour asking Snarly why he slipped Ferguson in there, and Jigo to say "The fuck does Ferguson have to do with Ebola?")))

I'm not going to do it now... You literally stopped me from asking..

 

[Marcus]

Well first the Ferguson Isssue that is still going on and is seen as some by police abusive power. Yet we are still worried by this outbreak used to distract us from the real issues. I mean the "Swine flu" "H1 flu" West Nile Virus" ect.... I am starting to think that this is all nothing more than a distraction. As if the government can not figure out and test for Ebola? I mean it is more common than you think! Bottom line is everything and while true to some extent is so far exaggerated to the point now AIDS out of now where is not a health issue. I am sorry however this world is pinning us down, thankful we live in the one city that can only grow from the trench. I however find what is going on in Ferguson MO, Way more interesting in this so called Ebola outbreak I remember having this issue before this right? Oh thank god for the Cavs real or staged at least i can get behind that to blind me and give me hope. Again Cleveland will be on the rise so at least we have a few fifty good years ahead before all hell literally breaks lose here and In the world.

I liked this post simply because you found a way to tie Cleveland's sports woes, Ebola, H1N1, AIDS, and Ferguson together in a single block of text.

 

[theSTEREO.]

Sorry to interrupt the Armageddon parade but I came across an interesting observation:

I was randomly looking for an old @Maximus post in a Safari thread and thought the best way to find it was to glance through the list of posts in his profile.

My 30-second, unscientific findings are that Max has discussed approximately 65% Ebola, 15% Laptop Trouble, 15% How to Jizz More, 4% Poiltics, and 1% Basketball since July.

I miss basketball Max.

 

[The Oi]

Evidence above that Gourimoko can be beaten/neutralized.

Much like the Eminem 8-Mile bit...own the downsides of your situation/argument and qualify your position before he can even get to it to pick it apart. I've done this before and stopped him in his tracks and I bet he hasn't even noticed...

 

[Marcus]

Sorry to interrupt the Armageddon parade but I came across an interesting observation:

I was randomly looking for an old @Maximus post in a Safari thread and thought the best way to find it was to glance through the list of posts in his profile.

My 30-second, unscientific findings are that Max has discussed approximately 65% Ebola, 15% Laptop Trouble, 15% How to Jizz More, 4% Poiltics, and 1% Basketball since July.

I miss basketball Max.

Offseason Max.

Also, no way that he only spent 15% of his time discussing How to Jizz More.

 

[The Oi]

Sorry to interrupt the Armageddon parade but I came across an interesting observation:

I was randomly looking for an old @Maximus post in a Safari thread and thought the best way to find it was to glance through the list of posts in his profile.

My 30-second, unscientific findings are that Max has discussed approximately 65% Ebola, 15% Laptop Trouble, 15% How to Jizz More, 4% Poiltics, and 1% Basketball since July.

I miss basketball Max.

And 90% of his posts have been antagonizing gour and/or me in some fashion.

 

[The Oi]

What the fuck does Rand Paul have to do with Ebola?

 

[natedagg]

Lakeland (LAKE) is a publicly traded company that makes protective hazmat suits. Their stock has gone up on a big govt order. My point isn't "how can I make money off of this?", as much as it's that following AGN (maker of Mapp drug that cured those 2 Americans) and LAKE might give you a quick quantified proxy for how worried you should be. It isn't a perfect science by any means, just another lens to look through.

 

[KB]

Well this is fun (just posting headline and first paragraph, not entire article)

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...45/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Dallas Co. sheriff's officers entered quarantined apartment
Tanya Eiserer, WFAA10:11 p.m. CDT October 2, 2014

DALLAS -- Five members of the Dallas County Sheriff's Department who were briefly inside the apartment where a man with Ebola stayed have been temporarily put on leave.‎

"They're very concerned," said Christopher Dyer, president of the Dallas County Sheriff's Association. ‎"Their families are concerned. You've got to go home and tell your spouse, 'Hey, I was just inside this house where a guy had Ebola.'"

The three deputies, a sergeant, and a lieutenant accompanied the head of Dallas County Health and Human Services Department and a doctor into the apartment late Wednesday night. They had gone there on the orders of Sheriff Lupe Valdez to get the people inside to sign a court order forbidding them from leaving the apartment.

Dyer said deputies should never have been involved to begin with, because he considers it a federal issue and not a local matter.

"My anger is really with the feds," he said. "Let's move that family. Let's move everybody out of that building. I don't care if it's overkill. Let's do overkill. I don't think sending a few deputies in there is the right course of action.‎"

 

[Maximus]

TOP EBOLA VIROLOGIST: LIBERIA'S AIRPORT CHECKS 'USELESS' AND A 'DISASTER'

by FRANCES MARTEL 3 Oct 2014 311POST A COMMENT


Virologist Heinz Feldmann, who has studied Ebola for 20 years and is currently working on one of several experimental vaccines for the virus, warned in a September interview that the airport was the place in Monrovia where he felt the most unsafe, and that screening for Ebola at the airport was a "disaster."
In an interview with Science Magazine in September, Feldmann, who had recently returned from three weeks in Monrovia, explains that the front lines in west Africa against the Ebola virus are by far the most dangerous; those working for organizations like Doctors Without Borders live under the constant threat of contracting the virus. Feldmann notes that he himself did not feel unsafe working in Liberia because his work was academic, and thus enclosed with the virus, rather than the patients:

Patients are like virus factories producing up to a hundred million virus particles per milliliter of blood, and a patient is unpredictable; a patient could cough, could spit at you, vomit on you, or even become aggressive and attack you. So these people really have the highest risk and have the highest burden.
Feldmann confesses that the place at which he felt the least safe was the airport, calling it the place of "highest risk." For example, screening occurs in areas confined enough that those being screened are likely to come into contact with the virus should an Ebola patient be among them. Furthermore, screeners are so poorly trained that they often cannot even properly measure temperature.

"They are checking your temperature three times before you get into the airport, but if you look at the people that do this kind of work, they don't really know how to use the devices," Feldmann explains. "They are writing down temperatures of 32°C, which everybody should know is impossible for a living person." Feldmann calls for major overhauls in the system, as he asserts that the checks are "completely useless" and "just a disaster."

In the weeks subsequent to the interview with Feldmann, a Liberian citizen from Monrovia, Thomas Eric Duncan, arrived in Texas having contracted Ebola. Duncan, who touched an Ebola victim while trying to help her take a taxi to the hospital, claimed on airport screening forms that he had not come into contact with anyone appearing to have Ebola symptoms, something for which the government of Liberia has vowed to prosecute Duncan. In announcing plans to prosecute, officials admitted the screenings were largely an honor system in which passengers were expected to be forthright on their documents.

 

[Simon]

Ebola fears: Overseas flight quarantined in New Jersey after passenger becomes ill

 

[JMcCurry08]

Can't the FAA or even the President put a stop to flights coming in from Africa?

 

[Maximus]

So the father and daughter came from Liberia via Brussels. He was vomiting on the plane and they hauled him off in hazmat suits. What do you do with all the passengers? Just let them all go?

I'm pretty much in favor of banning anyone from coming here until this thing is reigned in...which i fear may not happen. I just don't see how any third world country will survive this thing without a vaccine.

 

[Jack Brickman]

Have we had any confirmation of transmission by droplet infection (coughing) I thought traditionally the fluid "exchange" needed to be more significant than that? If its changing vector transmission then this could get really bad really quickly

I had a fluid exchange with a girl on Saturday night. Am I at risk? Or more specifically, is her face at risk?