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Farewell to Sergey Karasev

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This is sort of an interesting comment--


Personally, I think Karasev was probably undervalued as a result of only having played for Mike Brown. I dont think his potential was hyperbole and feel he would have showed much more last year if Mike Brown knew even the slightest about developing talent.

All that said, obviously Prohkrov and his team are looking for ways to market his team back home more. Would imagine they will put an emphasis on Karasev being given a priority to develop... though not sure Lionel Hollins is the guy to do that with.
 
^Agreed. Hindsight now but I kinda suspected that Karasev, and not Zeller, was the one the Cavs were more reluctant to part with in order to dump Jack's salary. Our insiders were saying that Karasev looked good in practice last season and was further along than suspected when they drafted him but Mike Brown...

Karasev wouldn't have gotten much run this year with the Cavs but might've been a nice development piece along with Harris for the future. Blatt certainly would've been better for his development than Hollins.
 
^Agreed. Hindsight now but I kinda suspected that Karasev, and not Zeller, was the one the Cavs were more reluctant to part with in order to dump Jack's salary. Our insiders were saying that Karasev looked good in practice last season and was further along than suspected when they drafted him but Mike Brown...

Karasev wouldn't have gotten much run this year with the Cavs but might've been a nice development piece along with Harris for the future. Blatt certainly would've been better for his development than Hollins.
I think once we drafted Joe Harris the writing was on the wall. With LeBron and Love coming and the calvacade of 3PT shooters, either Karasev or Harris had to go...and Harris was easier to keep long term since he wasn't a first rounder.
 
Harris was easier to keep long term since he wasn't a first rounder.

I thought that worked the other way around. First round picks have mandatory 4 years contracts that can be extended and first round picks don't hit restricted free agency until year 5. Second round picks always have the option to hit unrestricted free agency by year 5, and the ones signed to shorter contracts hit restricted free agency by year three with all those "Gilbert Arenas" provision headaches.

But you were right. Once the Cavs drafted Harris, the odds of Karasev's went way down, especially if they wanted make a deal with the Nets. Jack will probably work out very well for the Nets, playing with vets and getting coached by Hollins. Karasev will do OK too, because he will likely find it easier to get minutes on a team that lacks any real depth on the wing.

Others in this thread seem to have some pretty firm opinions about how NBA players develop. I'm no expert, but my thoughts are that the head coach isn't always central in player development, especially when the team has a mandate to win games and there are two other coaches on staff dedicated to player development. While there were certainly problems with the Cavs coaching staff ( & other levels of the team too) last year, the team did appear to continue Mike Brown's tradition of finding minutes for guys that work hard in practice. Dellavedova & Sims both seemed to work hard, earn minutes, and I think they developed pretty well last year. Waiters seems to keep growing as the year went along too. The other young guys? I have a hard time blaming Mike Brown or hist staff for Bennett's conditioning, Felix's injury, Zeller's appendix, or Karasev's lack of strength.

Gilbert & Griffin & Blatt must have been OK with the player development that they saw last year, because they kept both Phil Handy & Vitaly Potapenko on the coaching staff for another year.

Back to Karasev, sounds like he did learn some lessons--

http://thebrooklyngame.com/russian-nets-forward-sergey-karasev-role-house/

What do you think about your trade?

It’s been over a month, but I still have mixed feelings. On one hand, Cleveland gave me a lot during my first season in the best league in the World. On the other hand, I understand that given the current situation in both teams, including the current rosters, in Brooklyn I have a better chance to start playing. Of course, this is all just on paper for now – nobody guarantees that I will be getting minutes regularly. There’s only one way: bust your back and prove your worth.​
 
Karasev has started the last 12 games for the Nets. He's getting attention from the New York media and praise from Lionel Hollins.

Sergey Karasev is Carving out Home in Brooklyn Nets' Starting Lineup

The Nets coach values practice output as much as any other one in the league, constantly reinforcing the idea of "showing stuff everyday." But mostly, it's not too shocking that a defensive-minded coach would appreciate a defensive-minded player.

Karasev's theories on his increased playing time aren't so different: "I think I started playing better defensively," he clarified.

Nets on a tear since their youngest player began starting
“Sergey has a really good feel for the game. He knows how to play,” Deron Williams said. “He plays well off the ball, can pass, knows when to cut, works hard. He’s really surprised me a lot, how far he’s come since training camp. He was really — I don’t want to say timid but … not aggressive and now he’s being aggressive. He’s playing great.”
“I see a kid that is a good basketball player. He’s got good length and he doesn’t just stand on the 3-point line. [He] makes plays and he’s been playing pretty good. I like his anticipation on defense,” Hollins said. “He’s a good basketball player, he makes plays, anticipates. … He’ll go get a steal, he’ll go get a rebound. When it looks like they’re gonna get it all of a sudden he’s getting that rebound. Those are the types of little things that help you win.”

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I could tell Karasev could play even in the preseason (that no look between the legs pass in transition did it for me).

Glad to see him fluorish elsewhere with the Russians in Brooklyn.
 
I'm glad this thread got a bump, I almost bumped it a week ago. Karasev is showing he can play on the offensive side with any NBA team. He raises the plus/minus for the Nets very well.

He remains a nightmare on perimeter defense. Since Brook Lopez is pretty weak defending the rim, they have some juggling to do with their defensive combinations on the floor... but nobody can deny his wisdom and shooting on the offensive end.
 
Kid has a good feel for the game, a nice stroke, and a team first mindset..
Those attributes should carve out a nice 8-10 year career for Sergey.

Good luck to him and I am a fan.
 
I thought he played like a young Marco Bellineli when we finally had the opportunity to see him play, his confidence is still growing offensively.
 
I thought he played like a young Marco Bellineli when we finally had the opportunity to see him play, his confidence is still growing offensively.

Not to mention he's just turned 21. Easy to forget with that goatee on. He might become a really solid role player.

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The Grant/Griffin exchange will end up going down as one of the worst GM combos in history when you look at it on paper say 10 years from now.

You figure...

Bynum signing was an abortion
Jack signing was an abortion
Bennett as a #1 pick will be a disaster
Tristan over Valanciunas, IF JV becomes a borderline star
Waiters over Drummond, when Drummond becomes a star
Love leaves after one contract
Wiggins becomes a superstar
Karasev becomes a solid role player
Zeller becomes a solid role player

And all of this resulting in no championships.

A great deal of this will have been Gilbert's fault, but this is all going to look absolutely awful when all these players are in their primes and the Cavs are still ring-less. You'll see Griffin and Grant on those top 10 worst GM's/top 10 worst moves lists.
 
I love watching Karasev play right now. Looks like a perfect offensive compliment to Kyrie in the backcourt with his size, vision and playmaking ability. REALLY a 6'7 PG with perfect spot up ability.

Said before the start of last season that he was a better long term prospect as a 2g than Dion.

Great get for Brooklyn.
 

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