Game 13: Magic @ Cavs, Monday, November 24, 2014, 7:00 PM EST

[Zen]

Dion has his issues but what he is not is below average.

I think you need to do your research. He hasn't finished above replacement player level in WARP ever. He is at a -1.1 right now vs replacement player.

 

[Soar]

I think we know why Miller had a hard time deciding to come here.

Guy knew he was on his last contract.

I wonder if he is hurt.

 

[Soar]

Dion has his issues but what he is not is below average.

In terms of what? Talent? Sure I can buy that.

Stats? Not as sure about that.

 

[CavsFaninNJ]

You don't usually get to see how some players play better on bad teams than good from one year to the next - on the same team.

But when we look at Dion Waiters and how good he looked last year with no Kyrie, vs how he looks with no only Kyrie but a host of other good players on the roster, wow.

You have to begin to wonder.

Shows how silly it was for him to argue about him and Kyrie being the best backcourt, or even best young backcourt, in the league.

 

[thunder_down_under]

Observations after tonights game:
LBJ can still play, but getting older and can't do it consistently
RI is a work in progress, unsure what he might become (or not)
AV, all heart
TT, $12 mill...in your dreams
DW, leaving on a jet plane (By All Star break)
KL, DEFENCE, spell it, it is not that hard
Overall, tonight masks some ongoing problems...a couple of players short of a championship team...and a few players that need to be moved on

 

[Sebastian]

All I have to say about the never ending Waiters debate is that nothing is given. Everything must be earned.

 

[thunder_down_under]

You don't usually get to see how some players play better on bad teams than good from one year to the next - on the same team.

But when we look at Dion Waiters and how good he looked last year with no Kyrie, vs how he looks with no only Kyrie but a host of other good players on the roster, wow.

You have to begin to wonder.

Shows how silly it was for him to argue about him and Kyrie being the best backcourt, or even best young backcourt, in the league.

Said it before, RI and DW cannot be on the same team...plus, DW needs Delly out there for him to play a half decent game up to his potential

 

[Rainman]

I

Is there any chance that we might recruit someone who can at least spell D-E-F-E-N-C-E anytime soon...seriously, you can't win a championship with one defender

Last time I checked basketball players play D E F E N S E

 

[Sebastian]

Observations after tonights game:
LBJ can still play, but getting older and can't do it consistently
RI is a work in progress, unsure what he might become (or not)
AV, all heart
TT, $12 mill...in your dreams
DW, leaving on a jet plane (By All Star break)
KL, DEFENCE, spell it, it is not that hard
Overall, tonight masks some ongoing problems...a couple of players short of a championship team...and a few players that need to be moved on

 

[Sebastian]

Last time I checked basketball players play D E F E N S E

Unless you're Canadian I guess.

 

[Rainman]

Unless you're Canadian I guess.

Boom

 

[Rainman]

Unless you're Canadian I guess.

But read an NBA statline.

 

[BimboColesHair]

You're all welcome

 

[kookoo]

Unless you're Canadian I guess.

I'm Canadian, but I respect the forum. Color. See.

 

[Sebastian]

But read an NBA statline.

We aren't allowed to spell it correctly until we beat the Raptors again.