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Game 33 | Cavaliers @ Wizards Jan 4th, 1:00PM (ET)

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Da_James_Gang said:
Why you gotta sell me out lol...........

And i don't know if this been mentioned but probably has been. But isn't this the first lost to a sub .500 team??
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yes, the first one.

camakazee's neato-stats mentioned this, too.
 
How did we lose this game?I was out of town and came back to see that we loss to the Wizards by 3 points.
 
One of the few Cavaliers' accomplishments by the Cavs bench today. Unintentionally make Wizards fans mad by standing in front of them.

They should have stood up all 4 quarters.

New Faces Added to an Old Rivalry
By Dan Steinberg | Excerpt From The D.c. Sports Bog
Monday, January 5, 2009; Page E06

Most of the original antagonists who made this Wizards-Cavaliers stuff so great for three years were not on the court yesterday afternoon. Gilbert Arenas is injured. Zydrunas Ilgauskas is also hurt and not traveling with the Cavaliers. Larry Hughes plays for the Bulls, Damon Jones for the Bucks. DeShawn Stevenson was wearing velvet and sitting on the bench. Brendan Haywood watched from the tunnel that connects the locker room to the arena floor.

But if you think all hostility was gone from this matchup, kindly gaze over at the Cavaliers' bench. Cleveland's reserves, en masse, remained standing throughout almost the entire fourth quarter, preventing distraught Wizards fans from seeing the game's dramatic final moments. The reserves also turned around, smiled and made choking signs at the fans as the Wizards blew their 16-point lead.

"They've got no class," said Wall Matthews, sitting in a useless $300 seat. "You know, they're from Cleveland, what do you expect?"

"I travel from Baltimore every game and can't see the game because they want to stand up? Hell no, that ain't right," said Karl Dobyns, who complained several times to ushers. "I'm trying to get some refunds. The city of Cleveland owes us some refunds."

"Yeah, but that's not our problem," Cavaliers forward J.J. Hickson said of the dissatisfied fans. "We were creating our own energy."

So, as one group of antagonists leaves, another arrives. And in fact, while many faces have changed, enough of the key figures remained to give this thing some life. Like Stevenson, sitting on the bench and heckling LeBron James.

"I don't like him. I don't like that dude," said Stevenson, who made similar remarks during a midgame interview with Comcast SportsNet.

"I'm not going there this year," said James, refusing to take the bait.

Also making a repeat appearance: the brash Wizards fans willing to tempt fate by taunting the King, including 17-year-old Sam Hammerman of Rockville, whose "Crybaby" sign was shown on the big screen approximately 173 times.

There was no crying yesterday, but there was some heartfelt insistence out of the Cavaliers' locker room that one of the game's crucial calls had gone the wrong way. Yeah, that's right, out of the CAVALIERS' locker room. See, officials tabbed LeBron for traveling in the final minute, and it turns out that the King was actually using the heretofore little-noted "crab dribble." See, he's not thin-skinned, he just has a fragile exoskeleton.

"I took a crab dribble, which is a hesitation dribble, and then two steps," James explained. "What happens is when you take a crab dribble and you hesitate, that is not one step, because you still basically have a live ball. And then when you go into your one-two, that's when the steps get counted. So if you look at the play, I take a crab dribble and find a crease and then I take my one-two. So it's a perfectly legal play, something I've always done and always been successful with."

Predictably, the Wizards disagreed. Heck, the two sides couldn't even agree whether this was another in a series of drama-filled Cavaliers-Wizards games.

"Always," Caron Butler said. "It's got to be dramatic, it's got to be a good movie whenever we play against each other."

"What do you mean drama?" Cavaliers Coach Mike Brown said. "I'm sorry, I didn't think there was any drama tonight."

Fine, so there was drama or there wasn't, LeBron traveled or he didn't, and he and DeShawn have a feud or they don't. As the aggrieved Wizards fans prepared to leave, some were happy they'd had their little disagreement with the Cavaliers' reserves. "It makes it that much sweeter, that much sweeter," said Kelly Sutherland.

"Another meaningless win!" added his friend, Dylan Matthews. "It's awesome."
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/04/AR2009010401718.html
 
I'm ticked..I saw the first half..won't replay the second half...the Cavs should have dominated this scrub team..but they didn't..they're playing like they did last year..no ball movement..no defense...
 
Windhorst got things a bit wrong from the refs side... yes, they've been using LeBron as part of their training videos for a few years now, but the reason they like to use him is because he's so big that when he hops it's a lot easier for them to see compared to a smaller more compact player.

The comments about the crab dribble are interesting, but there is a point he picked up the dribble, and that's where you start counting steps.
 
Terrible, terrible loss, yes..

But the Magic and Celtics also both proved yesterday that it's pretty damn difficult to stay 100% focused and dominant for an entire 82-game schedule. Hopefull this loss makes us a little more alert for the Bobcats on Wednesday rather than looking past them to Friday's game vs. Boston.
 
They've got no class," said Wall Matthews, sitting in a useless $300 seat. "You know, they're from Cleveland, what do you expect?"
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ROFL I love that part the most.

This coming from fans of the team that played us like a group of street thugs in the playoffs last year, talked immense amounts of trash about how much they wanted to play us because they knew they could beat us, and then cried nonstop after we whipped them for the third year in a row.

I'm sure they'll enjoy their 15 win season and we'll enjoy going deep into the playoffs and maybe, just maybe, winning a championship.
 
JonFromVA said:
Windhorst got things a bit wrong from the refs side... yes, they've been using LeBron as part of their training videos for a few years now, but the reason they like to use him is because he's so big that when he hops it's a lot easier for them to see compared to a smaller more compact player.

The comments about the crab dribble are interesting, but there is a point he picked up the dribble, and that's where you start counting steps.
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I think with him being so big, with him basically jump stopping wide legged and with his feet landing at different angles, its hard to determine his last two steps at times. I thought from just looking at it naturally and knowing the basic rule of traveling (ie two steps or 1 step plus jump stop is legal), it was a travel by rule. However, Lebron has been doing that move his whole career in the NBA. So it is odd that the ref chose to call it at a crucial part of the game.

It is interesting to see and what is the rule for when an official step of a dribble is over and when it begins.
 
jimmywolfrey said:
It is interesting to see and what is the rule for when an official step of a dribble is over and when it begins.
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There are a lot of things the refs have to watch for, and if they still had the Ronnie Nunn show on NBATV perhaps they'd break this one down; but what I'm going by is that the dribble ends when the player gathers the ball - which to me means the point he grabs or impedes it from moving downward.

LeBron's foot was on the way down or already down when he did that, and then he took two more steps with a very long exagerated motion. Butler was draped all over him as he started his dribble and the ref that made the call would have not been able to see the entire drive because Butler was screening him off.

From one of the folks who's convinced it was a travel, I'd like to hear an exact explanation why.
 
JonFromVA said:
There are a lot of things the refs have to watch for, and if they still had the Ronnie Nunn show on NBATV perhaps they'd break this one down; but what I'm going by is that the dribble ends when the player gathers the ball - which to me means the point he grabs or impedes it from moving downward.

LeBron's foot was on the way down or already down when he did that, and then he took two more steps with a very long exagerated motion. Butler was draped all over him as he started his dribble and the ref that made the call would have not been able to see the entire drive because Butler was screening him off.

From one of the folks who's convinced it was a travel, I'd like to hear an exact explanation why.
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their explanation was "he took three steps".... horrible
 
I think he traveled because he thought he was going to get the foul call and they would call continuation which is what they did for a dunk earlier in the night that made it to the top 10.
 
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