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Game 37 -|- Cavs @ Kings -|- Sunday, January 12th, 6:00PM.

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Couldn't watch the game tonight as I was playing basketball in a league. What the hell happened? 44...to Sacramento....!


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Same old same old. We were competitive in the first half. Down 9. Then the 3rd quarter comes around and we get mauled. No adjustments are made. We keep the same unproductive lineup on the floor for the first 7 minutes of the 3rd quarter even though they're getting outplayed. Lead balloons to 20-25 during this stretch and and we exchange mini-runs with Sacto until eventually out guys submit and just pack it in for the night.

In short.....We got Mike Browned.
 
I think it's going to take more than Deng to turn this team around.
 
Kyrie has some of the lowest bottoms out of any star in the league. Everyone has bad games, but when the other top players have them, they aren't this damn bad.

Paul George recently had an 8 point game where he shot 2 of 14, an 11 point game while shooting 3 of 12 and over the last 15 days is averaging 18 points a night while shooting 38% from the field, not too hot.


Always an overreaction on here (not pointing you out specifically Rich)... While you guys are freaking out and wanting to fire up the tank after one bad game, the Cavs' players have already forgot about this game and are focused on the Lakers. Games like these happen to every team, this doesn't change the rest of our season. We were going to lose again eventually, just happened to be by 44 points. I bet we get a W next game.
 
Paul George recently had an 8 point game where he shot 2 of 14, an 11 point game while shooting 3 of 12 and over the last 15 days is averaging 18 points a night while shooting 38% from the field, not too hot.


Always an overreaction on here (not pointing you out specifically Rich)... While you guys are freaking out and wanting to fire up the tank after one bad game, the Cavs' players have already forgot about this game and are focused on the Lakers. Games like these happen to every team, this doesn't change the rest of our season. We were going to lose again eventually, just happened to be by 44 points. I bet we get a W next game.

In a way I agree, even the best contending teams lose 15-20 times every season, ant those losses aren't just against above .500 teams. However, a 44 point blowout by one of the league's bottom feeders has to make you question some things. Such as coaching, chemistry, effort, even the roster itself. Can a playoff team and potentially a contender in a couple of years lose to THIS particular Kings team by 44 points?
 
In a way I agree, even the best contending teams lose 15-20 times every season, ant those losses aren't just against above .500 teams. However, a 44 point blowout by one of the league's bottom feeders has to make you question some things. Such as coaching, chemistry, effort, even the roster itself. Can a playoff team and potentially a contender in a couple of years lose to THIS particular Kings team by 44 points?

thats a 12th rated offense closing out a 5 game home stretch. who have beaten portland, Rockets and heat at home.

Cavs ran out of gas for whatever reason and got away from pressuring on the defensive end. you dont play pressure defense against an explosive offense like the kings and youll get blown out.

Opponent wise there are no cupcakes or "bottom" feeder for the a young team like the Cavs.
 
FWIW I thought 3-2 would be a terrific road trip for young team that just made a big trade. We are 1 and 1. Need 2 out of the next 3. If that happens, I'd consider it a success.

Even so, U can get blown out by 44 points.
That can make it even more difficult to win the next game..total failure in this game and Sac isn't that good.
 
Paul George recently had an 8 point game where he shot 2 of 14, an 11 point game while shooting 3 of 12 and over the last 15 days is averaging 18 points a night while shooting 38% from the field, not too hot.

The difference is, when Kyrie shoots poorly, he's almost certainly giving up a ton of points/assists to the opponent's PG. Paul George might shoot 3 or 12, but his opponent might as well. Kyrie can't hit a shot and he completely stops playing defense.
 
And without looking the games up I know Paul George went and grabbed 15 boards one of those games too.
 
That team had no other primary scorer. Rudy was the closest thing they had. His role on that team was to be the go-to guy. He's not a #1 option which is why his %s were sub-par (42% for that series which in all honesty isn't that bad).

You're acting like they played a scrub ass team when they lost in the 1st round. They lost to the Clippers in a tight 7 game series. And the year before when they beat the Clippers Blake was hurt during the series. They didn't lose because he couldn't adjust to not being the man. They lost because they weren't the better team and OJ Mayo played like complete shit.

I'm questioning whether or not you were actually a Memphis fan like you say. You seem to not be aware of who Zach Randolph is. I'll educate you. He was the guy on those Memphis teams better than Rudy Gay. A go-to scorer.

Now, let's look at something.

Year 1- Make playoffs, beat the number 1 seed, 60+ win Spurs in round 1. Lose in 6 in round 2 to OKC.

Year 2- Make playoffs, lose to the Clippers in round 1, who then get mauled by the Spurs in round 2 in 4 straight

Year 3- Make playoffs, and this time get all the way to the WCF.

Guess what the commonality between year 1 and 3? No Rudy Gay. In year 1, he was hurt, and in year 3, he was traded. Year 2, the year he was healthy and still on the team, bounced by a Clippers THAT THEY THEN BEAT THE VERY NEXT YEAR.

Meanwhile, literally the very game after Gay leaves Toronto, they look like a legitimate playoff team. The ball moves better. Do you think Toronto's coach just had an epiphany after Rudy Gay left and totally changed the offense? Or do you think Rudy Gay was the one changing the offense, for the worse, on his own?

Rudy Gay does not have to be the man. Rudy Gay wants to be the man, and is incapable of being it.
 
This game is a four alarm fire alert for the organization and fans.

The lopsided score only begins to tell the tale.

The CAvs quit, laid down like a threadbare rug against a rotten opponent.

Quitters never prosper.

Quitters play soft when faced with adversity.

Quitters act tough, but let opponents assert their wills on them and laugh at the results.

Quitters buy into preseason hype about their own and overall team ability without ever bothering to prove it on the court.

Quitters tune out the head coach and resort to street ball tactics that might work at the local YMCA, not the NBA.

Teams with quitters have soap opera story lines throughout the season.

Quitter teams have rosters of mes, not us.

A couple of wins only puts a cheap coat of paint over the problems. Resentments aren't so easily forgotten.

Quitter teams are leaderless, on and off the court.

Bottom line is that there is a major dysfunction going on with the Cavs and the results are not going to improve until the causes are found out and solved.

When a team stinks, 13-24, you can only hold your nose so long before you have to take a breath and smell the crap.

Maybe being a Cavs fan since the days of Bill Fitch have just worn me out.
 
Meanwhile, literally the very game after Gay leaves Toronto, they look like a legitimate playoff team. The ball moves better. Do you think Toronto's coach just had an epiphany after Rudy Gay left and totally changed the offense? Or do you think Rudy Gay was the one changing the offense, for the worse, on his own?

Im not getting into you and Looney's beef, but this is 100% accurate.

I've watched about 80% of TOR games this year and I was perplexed watching them early on because I expected them to look much better. The minute Gay is traded, everyone plays with more trust in each other.

Inexplicably, Casey is making Amir Johnson his big man offensive threat as opposed to Jonas (very short sighted on his part) but still, they all are playing much more inspired ball now that Gay is not out there dribbling in place to create his own horrible shots.
 
I think it's going to take more than Deng to turn this team around.

I think that was somewhat obvious especially since we are getting a 75 percent healthy Deng. The one issue with many young players is that they are very inconsistent at times. I'm really curious to see how they bounce back.
 
And without looking the games up I know Paul George went and grabbed 15 boards one of those games too.

The game he scored 8 points, he had 14 rebounds.. And it was against the Wizards in a 27 point blowout

The game he scored 11 points, he only had 2 rebounds and 2 assists in a win over the Raptors.
 
This game is a four alarm fire alert for the organization and fans.

The lopsided score only begins to tell the tale.

The CAvs quit, laid down like a threadbare rug against a rotten opponent.

Quitters never prosper.

Quitters play soft when faced with adversity.

Quitters act tough, but let opponents assert their wills on them and laugh at the results.

Quitters buy into preseason hype about their own and overall team ability without ever bothering to prove it on the court.

Quitters tune out the head coach and resort to street ball tactics that might work at the local YMCA, not the NBA.

Teams with quitters have soap opera story lines throughout the season.

Quitter teams have rosters of mes, not us.

A couple of wins only puts a cheap coat of paint over the problems. Resentments aren't so easily forgotten.

Quitter teams are leaderless, on and off the court.

Bottom line is that there is a major dysfunction going on with the Cavs and the results are not going to improve until the causes are found out and solved.

When a team stinks, 13-24, you can only hold your nose so long before you have to take a breath and smell the crap.

Maybe being a Cavs fan since the days of Bill Fitch have just worn me out.

OUCH!
 

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