How Will Attendance Be This Season

[RedBlackAttack]

Static and ever changing have opposite meanings.

Otherwise, I think your point makes a lot of sense. I would add the the immigrant point you make isn't important simply because immigrants don't have a history with Miami sports, but also because they and their families are from areas where no one plays basketball, football, and or baseball and everyone plays soccer. How are you supposed to become a basketball fan if you've never played the game?

As always, I reserve the right to use antonyms when I get into any extended rant on a completely random subject. :chuckles:

I used it incorrectly twice in two posts, too... Nearly unprecedented. Not sure what word I was going for there, but the overriding point still stands... I want that to be clear through the static.


Anyway, yes, that was partially my point in bringing up the immigrant population. Like any modern culture, I'm sure Miami's immigrant population is enamored with celebrity and the whole grandiose scene revolving around the Heat. But, there is just no way a population like that -- anti-static? -- could have the same kind of deep attachment that I'm assuming most (if not all) of this board feels toward Cleveland sports teams.

Even with that star-studded cast, these are the kinds of scenes regularly found at Heat games...

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It is the same reason why, although people in Miami will claim it is a "football city," The U and the Dolphins only draw a crowd if they are competing for a championship and not even then a lot of times. Obviously, the fact that Miami is an awful sports town isn't arguable. The real question is why... I think we've hit on a lot of the issues at play.

 

[6.19.2016]

how baseball was structured

You are aware that there are more unique World Series champions over the last 30 years than Lombardi Trophy winners, let alone O'Brien Trophy winners, right? Unless there is some completely different meaning you are getting at.

 

[Giambiwannabe7]

Spoiler alert: Things won't change with a new owner. Who you and everyone else knew how baseball was structured you would understand.

That's where you're wrong. Things did change with a new owner, except they changed the wrong way. When Jacobs sold the team to Dolan it marked the beginning of the end of a great span of baseball in Cleveland. The glory days of baseball at the Jake rivaled some of the best days of Browns football at the old Muni Stadium. Downtown was rocking. I've been to an absolute shitload of Browns games at the old stadium, and the Jake in the 90's was right there. Those were some incredibly well built juggernauts back then. Tremendous blend of veteran and youth talent all under the watchful eye of John Hart. People bought into those teams because they had it all, including big time star power, nasty m'f'ers, and everything in between.

We saw a miniature version of it when the LeChoker led Cavs teased with Championship hopes...except those teams never stood a chance. We saw a small scale version of it with the Cavs of the Jordan era. But, when the Indians are built right, they can only be topped by the Browns...and it's not as big a separation as most people would have you believe. To sell out a 40,000+ seat stadium in MLB for over 450 straight games is straight up ri-fuckin-diculous. Don't short change that. That's a pretty big deal around these parts. Most Cleveland fans stick their chests out over that accomplishment, and rightfully so.

By the sound of your post, I'd put good money on having "understood" baseball longer than you've been alive. You put that team of the 90's in today's game and that place would be rocking all over again. Tickets would be just as hard to get a hold of as they were back then. Unfortunately, Johnny Damon be damned, names like Duncan and Brantley do nothing to conjure memories of Belle, Vizquel, and Lofton and the intelligent baseball fans of Cleveland know it too well. In the meantime they will continue to draw crowds more reminiscent of days gone by when names like Snyder and Jacoby played in front of crowds of 5,700 leading to the spawn of Ricky Vaughn and Jobu, with an owner who could give a flying fuck in building a winner the right way.

 

[Huber.]

Little over 13,600 last night. Going to be pretty bad from here on out.

 

[Bill Walton.]

Little over 13,600 last night. Going to be pretty bad from here on out.

Kyrie will probably bring more people in.. I'm not opposed to seeing a bad basketball team play. But without their star, I am.

 

[PosterTime]

Kyrie will probably bring more people in.. I'm not opposed to seeing a bad basketball team play. But without their star, I am.

Yeah exactly. I'm trying to go to more games this year, but not without Kyrie playing because the games have the potential to be brutal.