Jared from Subway's house is currently being raided by the FBI...

[godfather]

You mean customers? I would not go as far as calling a 15 year old who chose to have sex with a dude for money a victim.

Doesn't matter if you do, society sure does. And weren't some as young as 14? A 14 year old, is not capable of making rational decisions in that regard, and can be easily manipulated into such things.

I am sure the parents of these kids feel differently, and they won't let him make one dime off it.

He's been ordered to pay 1.4 to the victims, so the court clearly views them as victims. And there will probably be civil suits to follow, that he'll also be forced to cough up more money.

He has no chance of ever profiting off this.

 

[The Oi]

My cousin is a psychologist who has worked with a variety of different patients. He said one thing that's very clear in their community is that they really aren't 100% certain how to effectively treat those who wish to molest, before they actually molest.

Reason being, child molestation is so taboo that pedophiles don't feel comfortable going to even a psychologist to ask for help because they know they'll be seen as monsters. People with depression, Schizophrenia, bipolar, addiction etc...if they don't get themselves in, a family member or friend will. But pedos don't tell anyone what they are.

Once psychs get these guys in their offices they've already molested or harmed a child.

One thing that seems certain to me is that those who molest were very likely molested themselves.

 

[Tornicade]

so Wait a minute here. I could understood if some of these girls were turned into prostitutes by Jared and he pays for their "counseling" but some of these females getting 100k were already prostitutes. why would they merit a payout.
some of these girls getting paid actually tricked out the other victims.

 

[Otsego Mar]

He said one thing that's very clear in their community is that they really aren't 100% certain how to effectively treat those who wish to molest, before they actually molest.

You could say this about any crime. You don't know if someone is going to walk up to you and shoot you in the face. But what you CAN do is PROTECT YOURSELF.

Now, protecting yourself as a CHILD is a little different. But this is where parenting comes into play.

 

[KI4MVP]

Now, protecting yourself as a CHILD is a little different. But this is where parenting comes into play.

It's impossible for parents to 100% prevent their kids from being molested unless they lock them in their room and never let them out. If they do get molested, in 99% of the cases, the molester is the only one to blame, not the parent.

You wouldn't blame the parents if their child was robbed or assaulted, it's ridiculous to blame them if their child is molested.

You mean customers? I would not go as far as calling a 15 year old who chose to have sex with a dude for money a victim.

That's WAY oversimplifying it. These girls are called prostituted because they sold their body for sex. And perhaps some were already prostitutes before this happened. But that's not how i read the story. Jared is paying girls who he is at the school to mentor to both have sex with him and to recruit new girls. Certainly some of these girls were only "prostitutes" because of Jared because he's actively asking girls he's already paid to recruit new girls with his offer of money.

This is a rich and famous predator knowing he can exploit a weakness of someone too young to know better, coercing them into doing something they wouldn't normally do. And he's using his fame to get the girls into the position to exploit them.

 

[David.]

Strikes close to home.
There's a couple things can't get help with because it's so unusual, or considered perverted, tat
I'm just gonna suffer alone. No, not child porn. You wouldn't even understand it if I explained it. Consider a problem that requires full education to simply understand, and the payoff is being thought of as a freak.





That's exactly what this is.. Part of it

My cousin is a psychologist who has worked with a variety of different patients. He said one thing that's very clear in their community is that they really aren't 100% certain how to effectively treat those who wish to molest, before they actually molest.

Reason being, child molestation is so taboo that pedophiles don't feel comfortable going to even a psychologist to ask for help because they know they'll be seen as monsters. People with depression, Schizophrenia, bipolar, addiction etc...if they don't get themselves in, a family member or friend will. But pedos don't tell anyone what they are.

Once psychs get these guys in their offices they've already molested or harmed a child.

One thing that seems certain to me is that those who molest were very likely molested themselves.

 

[The Oi]

You could say this about any crime. You don't know if someone is going to walk up to you and shoot you in the face. But what you CAN do is PROTECT YOURSELF.

Now, protecting yourself as a CHILD is a little different. But this is where parenting comes into play.

Not really my point though.

I'm just saying it's an issue that we can't treat these people between the time they realize they're pedophiles and the time they destroy a child's life with their horrible, selfish actions.

 

[The Oi]

Strikes close to home.
There's a couple things can't get help with because it's so unusual, or considered perverted, tat
I'm just gonna suffer alone. No, not child porn. You wouldn't even understand it if I explained it. Consider a problem that requires full education to simply understand, and the payoff is being thought of as a freak.





That's exactly what this is.. Part of it

I mean...I'm certainly curious to know more...

Is whatever this is a "problem" because it hurts others or hurts you? Or is it a problem because it's different and has a stigma?

 

[gourimoko]

Doesn't matter if you do, society sure does. And weren't some as young as 14? A 14 year old, is not capable of making rational decisions in that regard, and can be easily manipulated into such things.

I am sure the parents of these kids feel differently, and they won't let him make one dime off it.

He's been ordered to pay 1.4 to the victims, so the court clearly views them as victims. And there will probably be civil suits to follow, that he'll also be forced to cough up more money.

He has no chance of ever profiting off this.

I think the younger person he paid to have sex with was 16.

I don't think there are any 14 year old victims. There was the intent and conspiracy to engage in lewd acts with young girls, as young as 14 or even younger - but I don't think he actually did anything with anyone that young.

 

[David.]

Hurts everyone. Hurts me an unspeakable deal in a myriad of ways, the girl a remarkable amount and the other person to an extent

Let me take the opportunity to point out that most ppl aren't a hundred percent proud of their sexuality, even if vanilla. Before you demonize someone for porn they watch that doesn't harm others, consider that they're probably ashamed ,
are just as aware as you that it's fucked up, didn't decide to be attracted to what they are attracted to, and said shame and complications from what turns them on May consume them and their lives, which is simply a Fucking battle. And that it's not their choice.

If you think a pedophile, for example, is happy with their situation, you're taking shit back to saying homosexuality is a choice. Who the Fuck would be ok with it let alone choose it?


Back to me: there's a lot of kinks out there. Thank your lucky stars some pof them aren't yours.

I mean...I'm certainly curious to know more...

Is whatever this is a "problem" because it hurts others or hurts you? Or is it a problem because it's different and has a stigma?

 

[gourimoko]

Hurts everyone. Hurts me an unspeakable deal in a myriad of ways, the girl a remarkable amount and the other person to an extent

Let me take the opportunity to point out that most ppl aren't a hundred percent proud of their sexuality, even if vanilla. Before you demonize someone for porn they watch that doesn't harm others, consider that they're probably ashamed ,
are just as aware as you that it's fucked up, didn't decide to be attracted to what they are attracted to, and said shame and complications from what turns them on May consume them and their lives, which is simply a Fucking battle. And that it's not their choice.

If you think a pedophile, for example, is happy with their situation, you're taking shit back to saying homosexuality is a choice. Who the Fuck would be ok with it let alone choose it?


Back to me: there's a lot of kinks out there. Thank your lucky stars some pof them aren't yours.

I kinda know what you mean..

I had a roommate who used to always fall into the same old shit of beating his girl -- and to him -- it was because "he loved her." I could never understand the shit, and we even fought once when I heard this girl scream in his room and he had slapped the shit out of her.

He was an Irish cat, and drank a lot just like his dad (a very rich guy, well known in Cleveland).

He admitted to me one day we were dropping acid that he was gay - I was like, what else is new bro? But he always dated girls, and always got drunk, and always would end up hitting them.

He got "help," but that just made him repressed.

I dunno if he'll ever be "normal" and I haven't spoken with him in almost 10 years. But, he was miserable in his own skin..

I'm not sure if this is the kind of shit you're talking about, but, yeah...

Another kid I knew, when we were little, his father used to rape him almost daily. This guy today is all over the place.. I don't know if he's heterosexual, homosexual, transsexual.. I mean.. He's literally all over the fucking place.. I always felt horrible for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.

 

[David.]

The world of sex is.. Fucking vast. Transcends typical stuff like gay straight trans.

Not gonna bother with my specifics, partly bc the current one it's Fucking out there, no one's heard of it and the underlying themes are more important than the current kink, but imagine living with a brain that literally orgasms from harm and unhealtginess for yourself. Now imagine that you're really Fucking creative. Now imagine youre a sex addict.

Now consider you're permanently attached to your dick and it's free to get aroused and Jack off. You're not that far off from existing just to create your own demise.

Oh yea and there's no one to talk to about it for many reasons

Much of the time I would kill for hormone therapy, chemical castration, just so I can live a healthy life. I also literally Fuck and masturbate more than I sleep. Literal months have been allocated to not only a waste of time but an actual concerted effort to make my life worse

I kinda know what you mean..

I had a roommate who used to always fall into the same old shit of beating his girl -- and to him -- it was because "he loved her." I could never understand the shit, and we even fought once when I heard this girl scream in his room and he had slapped the shit out of her.

He was an Irish cat, and drank a lot just like his dad (a very rich guy, well known in Cleveland).

He admitted to me one day we were dropping acid that he was gay - I was like, what else is new bro? But he always dated girls, and always got drunk, and always would end up hitting them.

He got "help," but that just made him repressed.

I dunno if he'll ever be "normal" and I haven't spoken with him in almost 10 years. But, he was miserable in his own skin..

I'm not sure if this is the kind of shit you're talking about, but, yeah...

Another kid I knew, when we were little, his father used to rape him almost daily. This guy today is all over the place.. I don't know if he's heterosexual, homosexual, transsexual.. I mean.. He's literally all over the fucking place.. I always felt horrible for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he's dead.

 

[gourimoko]

The world of sex is.. Fucking vast. Transcends typical stuff like gay straight trans.

Not gonna bother with my specifics, partly bc the current one it's Fucking out there, no one's heard of it and the underlying themes are more important than the current kink, but imagine living with a brain that literally orgasms from harm and unhealtginess for yourself. Now imagine that you're really Fucking creative. Now imagine youre a sex addict.

Now consider you're permanently attached to your dick and it's free to get aroused and Jack off. You're not that far off from existing just to create your own demise.

Oh yea and there's no one to talk to about it for many reasons

Much of the time I would kill for hormone therapy, chemical castration, just so I can live a healthy life. I also literally Fuck and masturbate more than I sleep. Literal months have been allocated to not only a waste of time but an actual concerted effort to make my life worse

The sex addiction shit I totally understand.. It's such a distraction that it's kept me from advancing in my career. I literally have to do shit just to calm down and not think about sex.

Hearing other people talk about their monogamous relationships and knowing they feel completely normal with once or twice a week sex with only one person -- it'd be nice to feel that way.

Maybe in time? I dunno..

I won't ever cheat on my wife though.. so I just deal with it.

 

[Bill Walton.]

I think if Jared is fucking 16 yr olds he wants to fuck 14 and 15 year olds. It's fucked up no matter how you slice it.. He's 40+. The guy is a pedophile. And DaveK what the fuck is wrong with you. Look I like jerking off as much as the next guy but kiddie porn is inexcusable. You wanna jerk of too foot fetish shit, tickling, and ppl dressed up as fuzzy squirells, cool. But kids is a different story. There should be a limit on what you can and can't jerk off to, why are we making exceptions? Because masterbation feels good? That's fucked up you think that way

 

[godfather]

I am friend's with this girl who suffers from chronic sexual problems. I know that sounds funny but it's true. She's really hot too, and she's literally a fucking magnetic like you could never imagine a girl being. She thinks about sex I think more than your average male. I don't think she could go a week without it.


She has to hide it from everyone around her on how bad it really is. Long-term relationships are something she can't have, doesn't care to have. It's all about the physical aspect and that's it.

I'm the only one that knows this. She fears how much she'd be labeled a whore, she accepts she's one, but still feels uncomfortable sharing this to everyone around her. Because you know, people are judgmental assholes.

I've joked I am buying her the pink viagra just for fun. She'd probably fuck every hour if she was on that.