John Beilein: Continuing his education

[Amherstcavsfan]

Beeline is 65 years old..........its almost they are paying him to be a circus attraction on a bad rebuilding team.

Care to elaborate on how this is a circus attraction?

Nothing about Beilein is anything close to "circus". He's actually about the exact opposite of "circus".

 

[LeeBuckeye]

I wonder if John Beilein will bring Luke Yaklich with him as he's credited for being the architect of their stellar defense the last few years. His name is being thrown around along with the current Butler coach LaVall Jordan and Juwan Howard as possible replacements. Beilein has vouched for him but he's never been a coach so Michigan may go in a different direction which might be to our benefit. Then again scheming for college players is a bit different than scheming for professionals.

 

[The Land 216]

They are saying it looks like JB Bickerstaff will be hired as associate head coach. A few teams are going after him, but cleveland wants him bad

 

[jvpertz]

Couple of thoughts....

1. Great hire for the post Leborn era and a great hire for Sexton and whoever we draft.....

2. The problem is that coaching doesnt move the needle much in the NBA. Bad coaching destroys more than GREAT coaching creates in the NBA. It can help on the margin but at the end of the day talent rules all.....

We beat a 73 win basketball team for the NBA title with TYRON LUE!!! The Spurs under Pop, while extremely well coached, always have had BIG TIME talent. They out draft everyone before they out coach everyone. Same deal with the Warriors.....

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

 

[FrontPageNews]

He would be an obvious choice since we interviewed him and he’s not with anyone else yet.

 

[CalBuckeyeRob]

Couple of thoughts....

1. Great hire for the post Leborn era and a great hire for Sexton and whoever we draft.....

2. The problem is that coaching doesnt move the needle much in the NBA. Bad coaching destroys more than GREAT coaching creates in the NBA. It can help on the margin but at the end of the day talent rules all.....

We beat a 73 win basketball team for the NBA title with TYRON LUE!!! The Spurs under Pop, while extremely well coached, always have had BIG TIME talent. They out draft everyone before they out coach everyone. Same deal with the Warriors.....

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

Yep. If they drop down in the lottery and get another JAG it won't matter who is coaching the team. In fact for the battle to tank next year to keep the pick, a great coach might get you just enough wins to lose the pick to the Hawks. The NBA is all about superstars. You need to find them and bunch them before coaching makes a big difference. I suspect Beilein believes he will be more influential on wins and losses than is possible in the modern NBA.

 

[Cavatt]

Couple of thoughts....

1. Great hire for the post Leborn era and a great hire for Sexton and whoever we draft.....

2. The problem is that coaching doesnt move the needle much in the NBA. Bad coaching destroys more than GREAT coaching creates in the NBA. It can help on the margin but at the end of the day talent rules all.....

We beat a 73 win basketball team for the NBA title with TYRON LUE!!! The Spurs under Pop, while extremely well coached, always have had BIG TIME talent. They out draft everyone before they out coach everyone. Same deal with the Warriors.....

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

I don't disagree, but I think Koby has done pretty well.

2nd rounder in Cedi - that is hit even if he doesn't improve at all which I would be surprised by.

23rd overall in Zizic looks like he will stick and is highly efficient. Guarding the Pick and roll better, cutting down on turnovers, and passingmore would make him a viable starter or great bench C.

Sexton _ starte dout worst in the nba lol and ended up as a top 5 rookie I would say in a super stacked lottery last year. Maybe Shai surpassed him due to playoffs, but still he ended the year very strong and fixed what some called his totally broken game.

I'm confident in Koby's talent evaluation. I think even though the trades didn't end up working, it was the right thing to do. The talent was there, but the team just didn't fit and sounds like the chemistry was terrible. I think we get someone good in the draft, but it could be the difference between a star and a good roleplayer which is too big of a gap to be comfortable with.

 

[inliner311]

Couple of thoughts....

1. Great hire for the post Leborn era and a great hire for Sexton and whoever we draft.....

2. The problem is that coaching doesnt move the needle much in the NBA. Bad coaching destroys more than GREAT coaching creates in the NBA. It can help on the margin but at the end of the day talent rules all.....

We beat a 73 win basketball team for the NBA title with TYRON LUE!!! The Spurs under Pop, while extremely well coached, always have had BIG TIME talent. They out draft everyone before they out coach everyone. Same deal with the Warriors.....

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

I agree with all of this but one thing a good coach can do is develop talent to the point that those players becomes attractive pieces to other teams. OKC has been good about taking young players and being able to keep them as attractive pieces to bundle in trades. The PG13 deal is prime example of this.

Philly also did this to get both Butler and Tobias Harris. Players might not end up as part of the long term plan for a team but keeping or increasing their value from where they were draft at least preserves assets to be bundled at a later date.

 

[Cavatt]

I am pretty excited. I can't wait to see him coaching summer league like Blatt did.

 

[benchplayer]

Couple of thoughts....

1. Great hire for the post Leborn era and a great hire for Sexton and whoever we draft.....

2. The problem is that coaching doesnt move the needle much in the NBA. Bad coaching destroys more than GREAT coaching creates in the NBA. It can help on the margin but at the end of the day talent rules all.....

We beat a 73 win basketball team for the NBA title with TYRON LUE!!! The Spurs under Pop, while extremely well coached, always have had BIG TIME talent. They out draft everyone before they out coach everyone. Same deal with the Warriors.....

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

I'd say coaching magnifies talent and can sometimes be the difference between a mediocre player and a good player, take the boston version of crowder vs the cleveland version for example.

 

[PIP]

9:46 PM est... He's been asleep for 3 hours

 

[rabman_gold]

Not sure about how I feel about the hire yet, but I'll leave this here:

Let's say that even though the coach has all the makings of a good hire, history isn't kind on rookie NBA coaches older than 55 years of age...

But it could be ground-breaking because of his fit/personality/intention.

I hope it works out. At least he'll have a better attitude for adjusting to NBA life than another Cavs coach who recently led them to the NBA Finals (and I'm not talking about Lue)?...

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Guess we need two-way players then...

Or you need to grow them. We can't pretend that defensive coaching has been pretty much a joke here since Lue got promoted. They eeked some good D out in the Finals, but it's been a defensive plummet since 2016 and that's not all on the players.

Defense is often just like offense - you have to scheme to cover for the deficiencies of players. Not everyone is an all around good defender. So how can you help players grow defensively and focus on what they can do.

How many more games could the Cavs win if they improve to just average defense (allowing about 108 points per 100 possessions). It'd mean shaving 4-5 points off opponents per game. Let's also say we can improve the offensive efficiency by 5 points per game as well. A 10 point swing. That would put 19 extra wins in play. Doesn't mean they'd win them all. And if you land the jackpot and are able to get the offensive efficiency and pace up (Cavs were near bottom in pace) then even more games come into play.

Doesn't mean they win them. But if they can win 30-35 games next season and have closer losses, that's a major step forward.

I don't think a lot of these players are lost causes on defense. I don't think the Cavs have done much over the past 3 years to really encourage or challenge them on that end.

 

[2 For The Brew]

Im excited about the hire but the future of this team is completely hinged to tomorrow night.....

No.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

Or you need to grow them. We can't pretend that defensive coaching has been pretty much a joke here since Lue got promoted. They eeked some good D out in the Finals, but it's been a defensive plummet since 2016 and that's not all on the players.

Defense is often just like offense - you have to scheme to cover for the deficiencies of players. Not everyone is an all around good defender. So how can you help players grow defensively and focus on what they can do.

How many more games could the Cavs win if they improve to just average defense (allowing about 108 points per 100 possessions). It'd mean shaving 4-5 points off opponents per game. Let's also say we can improve the offensive efficiency by 5 points per game as well. A 10 point swing. That would put 19 extra wins in play. Doesn't mean they'd win them all. And if you land the jackpot and are able to get the offensive efficiency and pace up (Cavs were near bottom in pace) then even more games come into play.

Doesn't mean they win them. But if they can win 30-35 games next season and have closer losses, that's a major step forward.

I don't think a lot of these players are lost causes on defense. I don't think the Cavs have done much over the past 3 years to really encourage or challenge them on that end.

Hard to imagine guys like Sexton, Clarkson, and Love being serviceable defenders, tho.