Spencer Hawes
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Francis couldn't do anything with Yao and Marbury couldn't do anything with KG. Unlike those guys, Kyrie had TT to carry the load...
I dont consider showing where a guy needs to improve or where they struggled as hating.
I dont consider showing where a guy needs to improve or where they struggled as hating.
Have you read through this thread?
Just cause we don't think Irving is the second coming or that we would rather have CP3 over him for the next 3-5 years doesn't make us haters.
Omg can we cut this empty stat shit out. If Love on the Wooves scores a point with a minute left of a blowout it doesn't mean shit cause Wolves suck. But when Love hits a shot with a minute left in a blowout, for the Cavs it's adding to his legacy cause were a good team?
A point is a point. Everybody who scores for Utah isn't worthless just cause the team isn't good.
Empty stats is a pet peeve of mine cause everyone goes out there and plays hard, to say that some dudes sweat and energy doesn't mean shit is just silly to me.
Not going at anybody specifically with this one, I just think it's a silly thing to be basing an argument off of
Asks the guy who joined May 2014 to the guy with over 8,000 posts who joined in 2011.
Critiques and debates about players are welcome in player threads. Better get used to it....
It's not a debate to me when you constantly come into a thread calling a player overated and average without any reasons why.
No ones ever suggested he's the second coming and no ones suggesting your a hater because you want cp3 for 3 to 4 years over kyrie. If you actually read through this thread and read the nonsense that's has been written you would understand why we are calling some people in this thread haters.
wuck edit: no personal attacks
dude you reposted my thread and said "sigh" then followed up haters in the woodwork.
In effect calling me out and diminishing my own post and several others as generically as possible.
refuting a post by labeling someone or a group of people as a hater, homer whatever other adjective you want to use doesnt really do anything for the discussion.
maybe you dont come to the same conclusion with the stats i used.. maybe you dont recognize the stats.. then refute by all means express your opinion . but have one opposed to "haters..bad""
Irving has been groomed to say the right things to the media since he was five. His play speaks far more to his mindset then anything he might say in a postgame interview in general.
Irving needs to improve his team ball play on the ofensive end or put more effort on the defensive end.
preferably both but either will get him back on track to winning his efficiency matchups.
one nice thing about having Lebron james is that Waiters can take the bigger threat from the opposing teams backcourt. You will stll have teams like Golden state that have can generate offense from both guards.. thats when problems will arise.