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I think the rest served two purposes. Allowed him to re-energize and it forced the front office to make moves.

LeBron is, like, the best GM EVER. All he has to do is say, "I'm going to grab some pine over here," and two wings and a center materialize out of thin air!
 
Loved what I heared from Chris Broussard during the game.

I'm thinking more and more that we'll finally see the old/vintage LeBron James as soon as he returns.

Your sig man I can not handle it. That looks like such a powerful starting five. Just wait you all.
 
Best rim protector he's ever played with besides maybe the first few years of big z maybe, wasn't into basketball at that time

Yes but also the first starting center who can't pick and pop in order to open up the lane for him...(don't think of Mozgov as a guy with a midrange jump shot, am I wrong?)
 
Let's be honest, Kyrie and Kevin Love coming into this season were both known as empty stat, one way playing (no defense) guys who have no impact on winning especially Kyrie. They are like Melo but w/o the team success. This team of course is going to struggle w/o Lebron playing.

Those two have not been able to change their reputation with Lebron out and it is unsettling. I'd still like to see how they play with Mozgov, but this team looks just like last year without Lebron. Shows how much Kevin Love adds.
 
Let's be honest, Kyrie and Kevin Love coming into this season were both known as empty stat, one way playing (no defense) guys who have no impact on winning especially Kyrie. They are like Melo but w/o the team success. This team of course is going to struggle w/o Lebron playing.

So which recently banned account is this? I vote for Cavsfan005 or whatever it was. Same flavor of stupidity.
 
Warm weather helps LeBron's rehab

LeBron James' rehab process to deal with back and knee strains has focused on getting him into the best places to heal. That included a stay in his old home in Miami to take advantage of warmer weather this week, sources told ESPN.com.

Cleveland Cavaliers' doctors advised James not to attend games over the last week because "continuous sitting" on the bench would be bad for his back. For this reason James was excused from team activities and did not attend road trips in Charlotte and Philadelphia and a home game against the Dallas Mavericks.

LeBron James has missed six straight games for back and knee injuries and said he's spent the time rehabbing "three, four times a day" with his trainer.

"That was by design," Cavs coach David Blatt said Wednesday. "He hasn't been around per orders of the doctor."

James spent part of that time doing rehab at the Cavs' practice facility but also spent time this week in Miami. Spending time in the warmer weather was deemed healthy for James' back. James said he was having rehab sessions 3-4 times a day during the last week.

He said the weather is part of the reason he is going on the Cavs' western road trip that begins Friday in Golden State even though he could be out another week.

"It helps that we're going to some warmer cities so my body could use that as well," James said Wednesday after returning to the team after being away. "It's difficult for sure, not being with the guys, and me being a team guy, and a camaraderie guy, it was difficult for sure."

James did not sit on the bench during the Cavs' loss to the Houston Rockets on Wednesday. Earlier he received a re-evaluation from team doctors that showed progress in his recovery.

"I'm on a program right now. I feel good. Week 1 is complete and I got one more left they say," James said. "If everything continues to go well, I'm on target, I'm on pace, I'm feeling better every day."

James, who has missed the past six games, hasn't done any basketball activities as he's focused on healing the left knee and lower back issues that have slowed him throughout the season. The Cavs are targeting next Thursday's game at the Los Angeles Lakers as a possible return date but aren't committing to it just yet.

"I hate missing games. You just look at my record and my resume of missing games, it's been one of the toughest things for me," James said. "But I just had to listen to my body, listen to the docs, listen to my trainer and that's what we came up with."

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That part about bulking up these 2 weeks was suspicious. I bet they tested him for HGH, so now that it's over he can immediately go back on. The best part is if you get caught in the playoffs, Stern doesn't suspend you until the next season starts.
 
So which recently banned account is this? I vote for Cavsfan005 or whatever it was. Same flavor of stupidity.

Kyrie coming into this season was awful from a winning POV

http://kingjamesgospel.com/2014/10/24/kyrie-irving-considered-one-overrated-players/



The Cleveland Cavaliers season is now less than a week away. The Season of Huh (Waiting for Next Year has a book in process about last season) is now over. The Season of Wow is almost upon us. The Cavs have put together an amazing roster with Kyrie Irving, LeBron James, Kevin Love, Dion Waiters, Anderson Varejao, Tristan Thompson, Shawn Marion and many others.

Yet there are still some who doubt the Cavs, and Irving and Love specifically. Those two have put up good numbers on losing teams that have never made the playoffs and are now expected to be a part of a championship level team. Doubters are to be expected.

Yet today we get from ESPN (Insider, Costs $) that Kyrie Irving is overrated. The article is about what player is most overrated, starting off with Kobe Bryant. Shortly after Chad Ford chimes in on two players he thinks are highly overrated, including Irving:

So I think James Harden is a little overrated. I don’t think he makes an effort on the defensive end, and I think basketball is played on both ends of the court. And I’ll put Kyrie Irving in that group; Irving ranked 35th among point guards in real plus-minus last season. Thirty-fifth. The only point guard who was worse than Kyrie Irving last season was José Calderon. And I think if we’re talking about the Cavs being a championship contender team, their point guard is going to have to play some defense. Obviously those are two dynamic offensive players, and when you look at their PER scores and other metrics, they look great, and we know they can put the ball in the basket.

But I’m not ready to anoint Harden or Irving as superstars until they make a passable effort on the defensive end. They don’t have to be superstars defensively, but I don’t even think there’s a passable effort with those two players at the moment.

That is a real shot at Irving, as Harden is general considered the worst defender in terms of effort in the league. Real plus-minus takes a ton of things into account and, while not a perfect metric (it doesn’t exist), should be given some weight in this discussion.

Irving’s ability on the offensive end is without question. The basketball seems to be an extension of his body when he is dribbling it, he can finish in traffic and he can shoot from anywhere. He will need to improve his playmaking for teammates, but this is the first season he has had enough teammates who can finish for him.

Yet even with all of that skill, as well as stats to go with it, Irving was still the second worst ranked point guard in real plus-minus. That means his defense was so bad, according to that metric, that it didn’t just pull him down to average but all the way down to terrible.

Irving ranked 35th among point guards in real plus-minus last season. Thirty-fifth. The only point guard who was worse than Kyrie Irving last season was José Calderon.
The team he was playing with the last few seasons could have played a huge role in his decision to give far less effort on defense. Outside of the inefficient play of Dion Waiters and the scrappy baskets for Anderson Varejao and Tristan Thompson, Irving had no one to help shoulder the offensive load. He seems to have chosen to save himself for that end of the floor. Players only have so much energy to expend.

Yet so far in the off-season, Irving has seen to commit himself more to the defensive side of the ball. In the FIBA World Cup he was active and engaged on both ends of the floor. He still produced offensive numbers but had players around him he could count on to score.

So far in the pre-season he has had his moments of effort. He has also seemed to take his cues from James, taking plays off on defense in meaningless games. For James that is okay, he has shown a history of effort. For Irving, he has to retrain himself defensively and get good habits established before taking nights off.

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Is Irving overrated? Possibly, especially based on the real plus-minus metric that gives a ton of value to defense. It seems Chad Ford also values defense greater than some of his cohorts who look at players like Dwight Howard, Roy Hibbert, Greg Monroe and Rajon Rondo as overrated.

Thankfully Irving is now setup to prove Ford, and others, wrong. He won’t have the excuse that he doesn’t have anyone to shoulder some of the offensive load, although LeBron James seems to want him to be the man on that end of the floor (a later article) and James is likely to push him to defend well.

What do you think of Ford’s take on Irving as overrated?


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1939155-is-kyrie-irving-the-most-overrated-superstar-in-the-nba



Between a jaw-dropping highlight reel, an overstuffed stat sheet and an undeniably appealing commercial campaign, Cleveland Cavaliers point guard Kyrie Irving looks and acts the NBA superstar part.

The hoops world is clearly buying his work, as the third-year guard was recently selected as an Eastern Conference All-Star starter.

In a league run by superstars, Irving has established himself with the ruling class—despite having some glaring holes in his resume.

The 21-year-old is charismatic, immensely talented and unbelievably exciting to watch. He's also the NBA's most overrated superstar, and he's facing an uphill battle in shedding that label.



Not a Leader

When the Cavs won the draft lottery in 2011, they seemed to be staring at a jackpot prize.

Just one year removed from LeBron James' infamous exit, Cleveland needed more than talent. It had to find a franchise cornerstone, the type of player who could carry his team and ignite a city.

Irving's track record said he was the perfect man for the job. A natural point guard packing a mighty scoring punch while always keeping a keen eye out for his teammates, he was a no-brainer (and, potentially, a game-changer) for the Cavs.

Some two-plus years into his Cleveland stay, though, the franchise is still waiting for him to have a superstar impact. In fact, this group looks strikingly similar to the 19-win outfit he was supposed to save:

Irving himself doesn't look much different than the player who captured Rookie of the Year honors two seasons ago. If he's made any strides in his game since, he's given them back in other areas.

Lateral Movement: No Real Improvements on the Stat Sheet
Season MPG PPG APG FG% 3P% PER
2011-12 30.5 18.5 5.4 46.9 39.9 21.4
2012-13 34.7 22.5 5.9 45.2 39.1 21.4
2013-14 35.1 21.5 6.2 42.7 36.7 20.0
Basketball-Reference.com

Yet individual production is supposed to be Irving's calling card. His team hasn't gotten any better since his arrival, so his superstar ascent has been based solely largely on his solo stat sheets.

That's a flawed approach for a few different reasons.

First, he shouldn't be turning many heads off his numbers alone. They're just not good enough to warrant his lofty standing among the fans.

"Last season, I would've told you Irving was a top four or five point guard," Fox Sports Ohio's Sam The Bullshit Whisperer wrote. "This year, I'm not so sure -- and [Derrick] Rose and the Celtics' Rajon Rondo have been injured, so they're not even in the discussion."

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What's worse is that The Bullshit Whisperer was actually trying to make the point that Irving isn't overrated—by leaving Irving out of the top five point guards, ranks that don't include Rajon Rondo or Derrick Rose, either.

That's how far Irving's stock has slipped, even if fans still think they're seeing the same returns.

Beyond his own struggles, though, there's a problem with celebrating a player who can't even make his team respectable. The fact his position is the easiest to elevate teammates from complicates an already erroneous measure.

"At some point, winning has to matter more than All-Star games, 3-point shootouts and even USA Basketball," Jason Lloyd of the Akron Beacon Journal wrote. "At some point, if Irving wants to be considered the best in the league, he has to win."

If the Cavs (16-28) can't win in this Eastern Conference, they may never win again. At least, not as long as their superstar continues neglecting one end of the floor.



One-Way Play

Cavs coach Mike Brown was supposed to fix this issue.

During his first stint in Cleveland, the Cavs posted a top-15 defensive rating in each of his five seasons at the helm. Three of those seasons, they landed inside the top 10 and twice forced their way into the top four.

Brown's offense was fairly vanilla, but Irving's offensive creativity made it worth the risk. Provided, of course, that the coach could get his star point guard to play both ends of the floor.

Well, Irving has suited up 41 times for Brown. And he looks as lost as he's ever been on defense:

Even in this age of advanced statistics, reliable defensive metrics remain largely elusive. The ones we do have at our disposal, though, don't shed any favorable light on Irving.

On the season, he's been the difference between Cleveland having a dominant defense and an overly porous one.

With Irving on the floor, the Cavs have allowed 106.3 points per 100 possessions. Stretched out across the season, that would be the league's fifth-worst defensive rating. When Irving takes a seat, that number drops all the way to 99.5. Only the Indiana Pacers, Chicago Bulls and Oklahoma City Thunder have a better defensive rating than the Irving-less Cavs.

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Now, on/off splits can be skewed by the other players on the floor. But with players like C.J. Miles and Anderson Varejao, both of whom share the starting lineup with Irving, the Cavs get worse when those two leave the floor.

As for his solo assignments, Irving has been getting cooked. Opposing players are posting an 18.6 player efficiency rating—league average is 15.0—against him on the season, via 82games.com. He's also been hit for 0.90 points per possession defensively, via Synergy Sports (subscription required), nearly the same amount he's posted at the opposite side (0.93).

Granted, not every superstar is a two-way force.

But Irving isn't a potent enough offensive weapon to compensate for lethargic play at the other end.



Will He Ever Reach His Hype?

Irving could do exactly what he's doing now for the rest of his career and many would dub it a resounding success.

As it stands, he has max money headed his way soon. His global brand is already strong and clearly continuing to grow. The basketball world has anointed him as a superstar and treated him as such.

If he wants the style-over-substance career, he wouldn't be the first player to follow that path.

Who do you consider the league's most overrated star?
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But if he wants something more, if he truly wants to make an impact in this league, he has to change. There are way too many problems being conveniently swept under the rug right now.

As Lloyd said in defense of his critical column, "I just think we’ve reached the point where he has to take accountability for some of this stuff."

The bad losses, the sieve defense, the lack of growth for both himself and his team—these are all serious problems, and ones that need to be solved.

Irving's not the only overhyped star. But he sits as the game's biggest offender.

It's hard to place that label on anyone entrenched in the playoff race given Irving's inability to carry his team even that far. Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love are similarly on the outside looking in, but their stat sheets (27.2 points and 9.0 rebounds; 24.9 points, 12.9 rebounds and 4.1 assists, respectively) are a level above Irving's.

Irving has the talent to reach the game's premium pedestal, but he has to want it and be willing to work for it.

No matter how hard the hoops world tries, it can't lift him to that ultimate stage on its own.
 
Fucking Hell.

Kyrie hasn't been great but to call him a non-postive impact player or a loser is absolute nonsense. Look at the roster he had around him and the coaching as well. Unless you are Michael Jordan or LeBron James you can't drag shitty teams to the play-offs. You need a good team, which Kyrie hasn't had till this season. And, Even the likes of Mike and LeBron needed all-star calibre players along with great leadership/coaching from above in Phil Jackson and Pat Riley to win their rings. Basketball is a team game. No single player can win you rings or even conference finals. They can win you games but you need a good supporting unit.
 
Not too fire anyone up, but I came across this and didn't want to be the only one mad at this stupidity. So stupid. I can't believe there is a discussion going on about LeBron leaving again already. I saw Skip and Stephen A. talking about it too.

 
Fucking Hell.

Kyrie hasn't been great but to call him a non-postive impact player or a loser is absolute nonsense. Look at the roster he had around him and the coaching as well. Unless you are Michael Jordan or LeBron James you can't drag shitty teams to the play-offs. You need a good team, which Kyrie hasn't had till this season. And, Even the likes of Mike and LeBron needed all-star calibre players along with great leadership/coaching from above in Phil Jackson and Pat Riley to win their rings. Basketball is a team game. No single player can win you rings or even conference finals. They can win you games but you need a good supporting unit.

What you say is true and there's the fact the Kyrie didn't want to play for Brown, but the fact that the Cavs were better with Kyrie OFF of the floor last year is not a good thing.

The offense was slightly better with him (105 ORtg with Kyrie on the floor, 103.4 with Kyrie off the floor). The defense was much worse with Kyrie out on the floor (110.1 ORtg allowed with him, 104.2 without him). Overall, a net -4.3. That's terrible. Delly was +4.1 per 100 possessions on offense and +7.4 per 100 possessions on defense for a total of +11.5 last year. For all the heat Love gets, he was +5.9 per 100 possessions on court and had a +10.9 net on-off. Love 'a RAPM numbers from last year also look good.

Kyrie's tried a lot harder on defense and must continue to progress as a player for this team to reach anywhere near its ceiling.
 
Lol, everyone on Twitter saying it is for HGH.

If his explosiveness comes back....
 

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