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I also heard he never even lifted weights in high school, or barely did. And he was still that ripped. It isn't too hard to believe that once he started hitting the weights that he could put on that kind of muscle.

It isn't like he worked too hard to have that type of freakish jumping ability either. That is pretty much all natural. And he gradually gained that weight through his career. It didn't happen over night.


jumping ability is genetics yes, but all that muscle doesnt just appear, you have to stimulate in order for your genotype to be expressed.

He also lost how much weight in just this off season?? and no its not just from cutting carbs...
 
Yea they're saying he'll be ready by the Laker game.

I could see them suiting him up against Pheonix, trying to get a big lead, and shutting him down for the second half. I'm just being impatient.. :) But cheers to him getting healthy
 
His weight in highschool: 240 @ 6'8'', which is about a 160lb 5'10 dude. Not big by any means. That was about my weight and I couldnt exactly start on my football team senior year. Also did not see the weight room.


He had a low bodyfat, but a miniscule person can have that. Nothing to do with size.


I heard he lost 15 lbs over the summer, havent looked at before and after pictures
 
I lost 30 lbs in 45 days (at the beginning of last year) doing the diet LeBron was on. I was, however, fatter than I should have been.
 
Cramps are also a side effect of HGH. After that Spurs playoff game, it really shined a light on Lebron cramping. Suddenly they start testing and Lebron's athleticism dwindles not all the way, but enough for all of us to notice it.
Joint pain and acromegaly are signs of use of hgh. What is acromegaly? Enlarged features and lines in the face! Bad knee bad back, lined face. Do your own math.
 
I've seen a lot of shit regarding juicing in my days so I'm really torn on this whole situation. But, I do have some insight.

My practical side says this is a ridiculous conspiracy theory. As someone who played Lebron twice in HS he, while not the specimen he is now, made the average guy look pathetic. I'm a legit 6'3 and he just seemed like a man child (I'm two years older).

You have to remember that to get to the place he is you are talking about 0.01% physical and genetic specimen. There absolutely are going to be outliers in the massive sample size that is our population and that is generally what makes these athletes stand out. They are paid to eat the perfect combination of food, their entire life is about training and maximizing their superior genetics via workouts.

I find it highly unlikely that the guy has taken HGH for 12 years stopped, then decided to flaunt his weight loss in the off season with zero discretion. The guy is still MASSIVE. Those gaunt pictures from earlier do not even remotely resemble the Lebron you see in uniform. Occams razor tells me we are most likely just seeing a guy with a shit load of miles on his body struggling through a few nagging injuries.

Now here is the other side.

To think PEDs don't exist in pro sports might be extremely naive. Without going into too many details my HS football team crushed it during my period making the final 4 in states I believe twice. I know of at least 8 friends that were taking some form of steroid injection and we are talking 16-18 year olds. The trainers knew it too and everyone basically just turned a blind eye.

Most PEDs that pro athletes use are going to be oxygen enhancers that give them additional stamina and let them perform and train at a higher level without getting tired.

I went on to Play tennis at a D1 school. Practice was usually 4-6 hours a day and grueling (We're talkin about practice). We spent 2 hours with the physio staff doing yoga and a bunch of bullshit and two of our players would regularly get shots of "vitamins" that a lot of us thought was pretty strange. Coincidentally an inquiry was opened on the head coach 2 years after I left the school for EPO use and during the process he passed away from a heart attack.

Another anecdote is that my freshman year I was failing a math course. I was placed with an adviser and after class I would have to take the coursework to her office and work through it with her. For tests I would skip the class and go directly to her office where we would take the test together. To be frank I had no fucking idea what I was doing and she would essentially walk me through step by step until I easily passed the test.

The point of all of this? I witnessed all of these things in a sport that makes little to no money for the university. I found it funny when people were shocked earlier this year when the story came out of athletes taking phantom classes for passing grades. BBall and Football are absolute cash cows, there is going to be cheating, there might be doping, and there definitely is going to be a lot of behind the scene bullshit taking place.

Bottom line, none of us can say if he or any of these guys are taking HGH. Is it possible? Sure. But, if Lebron is on something I can assure you that the vast majority of the league is, and it is a level playing field. This isn't something that a few lucky guys do to become stars, if its happening, it's prevalent.

The problem with drug testing is that the designers are always ahead of the test. If Lebron is on something it would likely be something we don't constantly hear about already.

My 2 cents, a bit of history, and some things I thought might be interesting.
 
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Cramps are also a side effect of HGH. After that Spurs playoff game, it really shined a light on Lebron cramping. Suddenly they start testing and Lebron's athleticism dwindles not all the way, but enough for all of us to notice it.
Joint pain and acromegaly are signs of use of hgh. What is acromegaly? Enlarged features and lines in the face! Bad knee bad back, lined face. Do your own math.


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His weight in highschool: 240 @ 6'8'', which is about a 160lb 5'10 dude. Not big by any means. That was about my weight and I couldnt exactly start on my football team senior year. Also did not see the weight room.


He had a low bodyfat, but a miniscule person can have that. Nothing to do with size.


I heard he lost 15 lbs over the summer, havent looked at before and after pictures

sorry but 240 is enormous for a 6'8 17 year old who exercises all the time in an aerobic sport. It is nothing like being 160 at 5'10" which is unremarkable -- where do you get that?
 
By math.

Each inch gives you 8lbs typically. You can put up whatever number you want and say it's huge, but that is a skinny six foot eight person. Did you even see pictures?
 
By math.

Each inch gives you 8lbs typically. You can put up whatever number you want and say it's huge, but that is a skinny six foot eight person. Did you even see pictures?
I don't think that's how it works lol.
 
I don't think that's how it works lol.
You think a taller person has the same weight of bones, fat etc as a shorter one?

Google it if you want. Common sense says you're going to automatically weigh more if you're taller. A5 foot tall person that weighs 300 is going to have over 150lbsy of muscle. If he was 7 foot it'd be closer to half that. And the two would look night and day different.

Body composition hardly ends at weight.
 
You think a taller person has the same weight of bones, fat etc as a shorter one?

Google it if you want. Common sense says you're going to automatically weigh more if you're taller. A5 foot tall person that weighs 300 is going to have over 150lbsy of muscle. If he was 7 foot it'd be closer to half that. And the two would look night and day different.

Body composition hardly ends at weight.
Obviously if you're taller, you'll typically weigh more…it's your math that's way wrong.
 
By math.

Each inch gives you 8lbs typically. You can put up whatever number you want and say it's huge, but that is a skinny six foot eight person. Did you even see pictures?
By math.

Each inch gives you 8lbs typically. You can put up whatever number you want and say it's huge, but that is a skinny six foot eight person. Did you even see pictures?

The math equation for finding what someone's weight would be at any given height is multiplying the person's current weight by the percentage of whatever the new height is in comparison to the current height three times. For example, since LeBron is 6'8" and the new height is 5'10", 70/80 = .875. 240*.875*.875*.875 = 160.78125 lbs. You, sir, were spot on. The reason why you multiply the current weight by that percentage three times is because the person is, at least in this scenario, only 87.5% the height, 87.5% the width, and 87.5% the thickness of a 6'8" person, assuming all proportions stay the same. For example, if I were Shaq's height, I'd be about 408 lbs. That's about an average of a little over 12 lbs added per inch. The 8 lbs per inch isn't an accurate way of measurement since each inch of height adds exponentially more weight. Body weight also has a lot to do with it as well.
 

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