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I know that was a joke, but if comes back and we get back onto an 18-11 pace with him again, how could he not be a serious MVP contender? It's, like, the very definition of the award.

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While his play has been unbelievable, I don't believe that the NBA has ever had an MVP on a non-playoff team.

Closest I can find is Milwaukee finishing 38-44 with Kareem winning MVP in 1976, but they squeaked into the playoffs by finishing first in a terrible Midwest Division. It was also the first season the Cavs ever made the playoffs.

Back on topic, LeBron will be the favorite for MVP if he drags the Cavs back to a top-4 seed. Curry/Durant will make it close, but returning the Cavs to the postseason will resonate more with voters.
 
Very surprised to hear people discussing Lebron for MVP here. We're playing really terrible without him, but I don't think he was playing at an MVP level when he was playing. And our record won't even be close to compete with many other candidates (i.e. Steph Curry). Which player I think is better/would rather have on my team notwithstanding, I don't see how Lebron is a candidate given the criteria we've seen since he's been in the league.

At this point, I just want him to come back and play close to the level I know he's capable of, but more importantly provide leadership to the other talented members of the squad who haven't yet figured out what it takes to win. And no I don't mean throwing them under the bus to the media.
 
Why does LeBron need to make it easy for his PG? why can't the PG make the game easier for LeBron and Love?

I'd rather have a PG who isn't dependent on scoring at a volume shooting rate to have an impact. A PG who can feed LeBron enough easy plays to get him back closer to the 55% FG player he used to be. A PG who can feed the ball enough to Love where he's most consistent and effective, which in turn would increases the FG% of Love and make the whole team offense better and efficient all-around.

Why does LeBron need to set easy plays for a volume scorer who needs the ball to have a small impact? It's a no-brainer to me. I'd rather run a team where i can set easy plays for the guys who are the most efficient scorers, but also are capable of providing more impact in other areas.
 
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Why does LeBron need to make it easy for his PG, why can't the PG make the game easier for LeBron and Love?

I'd rather have a PG who isn't dependent on scoring at a volume shooting rate to have an impact. A PG who can feed LeBron enough easy plays to get him back closer to the 55% FG shooter he used to be. A PG who can feed the ball enough to Love where he's most consistent and effective, which in turn would increases the FG% of Love and make the whole team offense better and efficient all-around.

Why does LeBron need to set easy plays for a volume scorer who needs the ball to have a small impact? It's a no-brainer to me. I'd rather run a team where i can set easy plays for the guys who are the most efficient scorers, but also are capable of providing more impact in other areas.

Right -- especially as Lebron gets older you want him to be the guy who gets fed by a good PG not the guy who has to facilitate scoring for everyone else on the court and things collapse when he's not giving max effort.
 

And this is the difference between the MVP of your fantasy basketball team and the MVP of the NBA. Take a look at Davis's advanced defensive stats sometime... he might have great numbers as a shot blocker, but he has bad numbers as a rim protector.
 
If we're talking MVP, Steph Curry definitely deserves it so far this year.
 
Actually I think PG could be the easiest position for him to play. He doesn't have to bang in the post offensively as a PF and he doesn't have to take as much contact driving to the basket as a SF. He'd still be a 20 PPG scorer and a huge offensive threat on the floor but he can just focus on passing and running the offense most of the time which comes easily for him. We may see a Magic Lebron yet.
 
If LeBron wants to be a PG, let him be one. I think that would work more with him. Blatt did say "positions don't matter", well, let's see it. Bron at point, and let the strongest players take the non-center positions.
 
If LeBron wants to be a PG, let him be one. I think that would work more with him. Blatt did say "positions don't matter", well, let's see it. Bron at point, and let the strongest players take the non-center positions.
Lebron playing pg is part of the reason he is out right now. He has to bring it up virtually every time down initiate the offense put everybody in their spots and try to make something happen every time down.
 
Lebron playing pg is part of the reason he is out right now. He has to bring it up virtually every time down initiate the offense put everybody in their spots and try to make something happen every time down.

Some of them just don't get it. A lot of people underestimated how good a play-maker Wade is and that one intangible of his made it a bit easier for LeBron to just set screens, get in position for some easy lob passes, etc. They both scored easy points off of each other because they're both competent play-makers. LeBron is the only competent play-maker on the Cavs. He has no one else who can set easy shots for him to score at a high efficient level like he did in Miami. If the Cavs don't get far in the playoffs, i'd rather see the Cavs try to move Kyrie instead of losing Love and possibly LeBron walkng out again.

Yeah, Kyrie is young, but we've seen enough talented young players who were picked high on the draft, but ended being losers in the league because they could never develop a winning mindset. At the moment, Kyrie is young, but he's in his fourth year and has shown little to no improvement as a player. In their fourth year, LeBron, Wade, Durant, etc, were more advanced and matured. The Cavs can build around a proven winner like LeBron to win now, but you can't build around a career-loser like Kyrie until he shows signs that he can win on his own.
 
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Some of them just don't get it. A lot of people underestimated how good a play-maker Wade is and that one intangible of his made it a bit easier for LeBron to just set screens, get in position for some easy lob passes, etc. They both scored easy points off of each other because they're both competent play-makers. LeBron is the only competent play-maker on the Cavs. He has no one else who can set easy shots for him to score at a high efficient level like he did in Miami. If the Cavs don't get far in the playoffs, i'd rather see the Cavs try to move Kyrie instead of losing Love and possibly LeBron walkng out again.

Yeah, Kyrie is young, but we've seen enough talented young players who were picked high on the draft, but ended being losers in the league because they could never develop a winning mindset. At the moment, Kyrie is young, but he's in his fourth year and has shown little to no improvement as a player. In their fourth year, LeBron, Wade, Durant, etc, were more advanced and matured. The Cavs can build around, but you can't built around a career- loser until he shows signs that he can win on his own.

Are you new to the Cavs this season? Each season he was here was a tank, and the last one was a horrible mess because it was not intended to be one at the behest of an impatient owner. Kyrie didn't exactly come in on "good footing". We had a front office that ignored the center position over and over and over. Drafted a guy who came off the BENCH in college in the top 10. (Possibly 2).

Trading Kyrie is absolutely insane. And if the Cavs do it for the sake of ONE player who's on the road of being past-his-prime, I'm probably going to actually find another team to root for. LeBron was a career loser until he went to a team that had already won a title, with two All-Stars that complemented his game in tow. The first year he went to said team, he lost.... because he was holding on to losing habits. He let them go the next season, and the other one was very close for them to recur. Did we forget this?

Your Lord and Savior needs to step up and be a leader, instead of holding a team hostage. It reflects poorly on the other guys, who likely don't want to see him go.
 

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