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Lebron has pulled rank on Blatt because there's one thing Dave does that makes LBJ turned off.

Blatt thinks all of his prior coaching experience means something, and James knows that Dave hasn't even coached in a series yet.

Blatt has only ever coached in single elimination euro tournaments.
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Actualy, the stage before the Final Four @euroleague is a best of 5 series.

And on a more general note - I do feel that Lebron does not like Blatt, even tho he might respect him professionaly.

Yet, I really hope he'll forget it in the postseason and play Blatt's way, because last night clevland did shit and did not play his way.
 
Bosh was/is a great player who sacrificed for the team. He never hid like lebron in 2011 vs. The mavs.

Bosh disappeared a ton for the Heat. He was terrible in the 13 and 14 Finals. And ghost verse Indiana in 13 and 14. I mean the man scored zero points in the biggest game of his career. LeBron garbage in the 2011 Finals. But propping up Bosh is a joke. He went multiple playoff series where you forgot he was even there.
 
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Blatt has only ever coached in single elimination euro tournaments.

I think someone posted a list of formats for his championships- if they could be repost it would help us all. I didn't think they were all single elimination. Thought there were some best of 3s at least?
 
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Can we just wait until one playoff series before we begin speculating about what has gone on this season? We are supposed to be Cavs fans, people! My god our sky is falling complex is starting to run thin.

LBJ be like..
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Some of us have access to information that you don't. And the idea that we weren't able to forgive him is ridiculous, especially since it has no relevance to this argument. LeBron tried to get Blatt fired. It happened. The front office told him no and made some trades to improve the team. At that point, LeBron started buying in and playing harder.

With all due respect, the level of creedence I give to anonymous forum posters claiming insider knowledge is one level below what I give to random ESPN journalists, who are at least paid to gather information and put their names behind what they say. You seem to be claiming that Lebron *went to the front office and told them straight out that he wanted Blatt fired*. I find that extremely implausible based on his MO throughout his career and I find it even more wildly implausible that it would have leaked to an anonymous poster on an internet bulletin board while none of the dozens of reporters following NBA basketball ever reported it as a fact. It would have been one of the hottest stories of the year in the NBA.

More broadly, it's pretty clear that early in the year 1) the team was not playing at a high level and Lebron was frustrated, 2) Lebron was not familiar with Blatt, didn't know him, and probably didn't fully trust him. A lot of people have put those two together to claim that Lebron was trying to get Blatt fired. But that doesn't follow at all. Getting a coach fired is a radical, last-resort kind of move that is disruptive to a team and to a player's reputation, and usually results from sharp conflict with a coach, not from team growing pains in a situation where everyone is new to each other. There's no evidence that Lebron and Blatt ever conflicted, or even that Blatt ever told Lebron to do anything Lebron didn't want to do.

And Lebron in particular has never seemed to even care very much who his coaches are -- in all the various situations where he had leverage over a team, he has *never* publicly made any recommendation for a specific coach to be hired, for a coach to let go, etc. When he resigned with the Cavaliers early in his career he didn't call for a coaching change, when he went to free agency in 2010 and 2014 there was never a word either time about the coach he wanted to play for. It was always about the players he wanted to join. And early this year too all his public statements were critical of the *team* and never highlighted anything about the coach -- the team ('we') are soft, playing badly, etc. All he said about Blatt was that the front office had hired him, he was the coach, Lebron accepted that, and he was getting to know Blatt better. Because the fans and the media are always highlighting the role of the coach people interpreted this as implicit criticism -- how could Lebron be so indifferent to Blatt? But I think it was a perfectly straightforward expression of Lebron's view. I think the way he sees it the team's quality gets worked out between the players on the floor, by bonding as a unit through experience and adversity. The coach plays more of a supporting role. That makes sense of the way he talks about his teams and always has.
 
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Bosh was/is a great player who sacrificed for the team. He never hid like lebron in 2011 vs. The mavs.
And still performed worse than Lebron in the 2011 finals. Tells you alot more about Bosh than Lebron.
 
With all due respect, the level of creedence I give to anonymous forum posters claiming insider knowledge is one level below what I give to random ESPN journalists, who are at least paid to gather information and put their names behind what they say. You seem to be claiming that Lebron *went to the front office and told them straight out that he wanted Blatt fired*. I find that extremely implausible based on his MO throughout his career and I find it even more wildly implausible that it would have leaked to an anonymous poster on an internet bulletin board while none of the dozens of reporters following NBA basketball ever reported it as a fact. It would have been one of the hottest stories of the year in the NBA.

More broadly, it's pretty clear that early in the year 1) the team was not playing at a high level and Lebron was frustrated, 2) Lebron was not familiar with Blatt, didn't know him, and probably didn't fully trust him. A lot of people have put those two together to claim that Lebron was trying to get Blatt fired. But that doesn't follow at all. Getting a coach fired is a radical, last-resort kind of move that is disruptive to a team and to a player's reputation, and usually results from sharp conflict with a coach, not from team growing pains in a situation where everyone is new to each other. There's no evidence that Lebron and Blatt ever conflicted, or even that Blatt ever told Lebron to do anything Lebron didn't want to do.

And Lebron in particular has never seemed to even care very much who his coaches are -- in all the various situations where he had leverage over a team, he has *never* publicly made any recommendation for a specific coach to be hired, for a coach to let go, etc. When he resigned with the Cavaliers early in his career he didn't call for a coaching change, when he went to free agency in 2010 and 2014 there was never a word either time about the coach he wanted to play for. It was always about the players he wanted to join. And early this year too all his public statements were critical of the *team* and never highlighted anything about the coach -- the team ('we') are soft, playing badly, etc. All he said about Blatt was that the front office had hired him, he was the coach, Lebron accepted that, and he was getting to know Blatt better. Because the fans and the media are always highlighting the role of the coach people interpreted this as implicit criticism -- how could Lebron be so indifferent to Blatt? But I think it was a perfectly straightforward expression of Lebron's view. I think the way he sees it the team's quality gets worked out between the players on the floor, by bonding as a unit through experience and adversity. The coach plays more of a supporting role. That makes sense of the way he talks about his teams and always has.

This article touches on some of the stuff you're talking about. It suggests, although via anonymous player comments, that the issue was more lack of a balanced roster rather than Blatt.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/01/cleveland_cavaliers_anonymousl.html
 
Oh boy, the media will love this...

http://usat.ly/1NDP0jy

"First of all, I’ve got three very good friends in this league, and that’s Carmelo (Anthony), and that’s C.P. (Chris Paul), and that’s D-Wade. And after that I have a bunch of teammates. I have guys I ride for every day.

But Kyrie is a guy I understand how important he is to this team, how important he is. And the same with Kev as well"

The Cavs players need to stay away from the media and focus on the playoffs in my opinion. I realize Lebron was trying to defend himself against the media allegations that he and Kevin aren't close but this will honestly just make it worse.

Note: I don't think he has to be "best buddies with his teammates. There's nothing wrong with having friends closer than others. But even if it's true (and there's nothing wrong with it being true), it's just something you shouldn't say because it will only create backlash and controversy and we don't need any of that heading into the playoffs. We saw what happened when the media came upon Kyrie and Dion last year when they were trying to make a playoff push.
 
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Oh boy, the media will love this...

http://usat.ly/1NDP0jy



I don't know why Lebron would say something like that. I realize he was trying to defend himself against the media allegations that he and Kevin aren't close but this will honestly just make it worse.

Even if it's true (and there's nothing wrong with it being true), it's just something you shouldn't say because it will only create backlash and controversy and we don't need any of that heading into the playoffs.
Why did you not post the full quote?
 
“People get so infatuated with the best of friends, things of that nature,” James said. “First of all, I’ve got three very good friends in this league, and that’s Carmelo (Anthony), and that’s C.P. (Chris Paul), and that’s D-Wade. And after that I have a bunch of teammates. I have guys I ride for every day.

“But Kyrie is a guy I understand how important he is to this team, how important he is. And the same with Kev as well.”

In context, his quote is not bad at all. He's making a valid point and squashing this nonsense. No need to parse the quote and put it out of context.
 
Full Vardon article that this Nate Scott guy clearly ripped off (EDIT- to be fair, he did quote Joe, but still...that is what he took from this long and in-depth article...?)

EDIT- This is actually a well-written article, a bit long, nothing we didn't really already know, but it looks like Joe Vardon has actually given a valiant effort to change the narrative. Will it override the cheap shots taken by others quoting it out of context? Probably not, but, really, at this point, who cares...

Full Vardon original article:
http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/03/lebron_james_kevin_love_kyrie.html
After a rocky start, LeBron James and Kyrie Irving now see the game together, their own way

Turning point

When it finally happened, when James visibly warmed to Irving, isn't exactly clear.

James congratulated his "brother" for making the All-Star game in February - that's a far cry from grouping Irving in with his "kids."

On the morning of Jan. 15, at a team shootaround at UCLA before a road game against the Lakers, James pulled Irving and Love aside to tell them the Cavs would go as far as the three would take them.

The Cavs won that night, and on the next 11 game nights. They've amassed an NBA-best 28-7 record since Jan. 15. James is averaging 25.9 points, 7.1 assists and 6.4 boards in that stretch; Irving's right there with 23.1 points and 5.1 assists.

"When Kyrie is in scoring-mentality mode where he has it going, I want to continue to be the guy to go to him and to set it up, because I could always be engaged in the game, whether I'm scoring or not," James said. "So to have a guy like that who can go off for 50 on any given night is definitely a luxury."

During that same time frame, Love is averaging 15.1 points and 9.6 rebounds, shooting 43 percent. For the season, Love's averaging 16 points and 10 boards - excellent numbers for a team's third option.

But Love's not used to being a third option. He averaged 26 points for Minnesota last season, and he has $16.7 million player option in his contract for next season that he could forgo to become a free agent.

So after Love's occasional, public grumblings about struggling to fit in offensively with James and Irving, and James' responses to those grumblings, on March 22 a picture surfaced on social media of James, Irving, and some Cavs teammates posing after a win over Milwaukee.


Love wasn't in the picture. And then he gave those interviews, offering insight into what was already apparent -- his lacking, off-court relationship with James.


"People get so infatuated with the best of friends, things of that nature," James said. "First of all, I've got three very good friends in this league, and that's Carmelo (Anthony), and that's C.P. (Chris Paul), and that's D-Wade. And after that I have a bunch of teammates. I have guys I ride for every day.


"But Kyrie is a guy I understand how important he is to this team, how important he is. And the same with Kev as well."


Love may never get to where James and Irving are now as friends. Both James and Love agreed that whether or not that ever happens isn't important - it's if the Cavs win that matters.


But James and Irving are only where they are now as friends because they built a rapport on the court. And that's what James wants with Love.


"In order for us to reach our potential, the Big Three has to be big," James said. "And it can't just be Kyrie one night, me one night, and Kev. We all have to be clicking at the same time in order for us to be successful."
 
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That was actually an excellent piece of work by Vardon. If I see one more like that out of him, I might actually re-follow him on Twitter. :chuckle:
 

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