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That's with all the injuries. Wish I could jump that high bormally lol. I think with LeBron, it's hard to empathize with him. It's like he is this larger than life, handed everything on a silver platter guy, and guys like Kobe had to work harder to be great.

Since he was in high school, everyone has known he is going tobbe a GOAT player, it's expected, and for the most part, he's delivered.

The really crazy part to me is that even with all these injuries, this is still the best Cavs team LeBron has ever had. Even without Kyrie, or Kevin, or Andy. This might not be the year, but it can be, and LeBron knows that. Go for the kill big guy.
 
Said it in the game thread. But I'll put this here as well.

Assuming the Cavs win tonight...

If LeBron puts up at least 22 points, 10 assists and 5 rebounds
he would have averaged 30/10/10 for an entire series.

I just want the win...hopefully LeBron isnt fishing for assists and forcing passes (that end up being turnovers).

Other random stats. LeBron is shooting 42% for the series. If he just shot his regular season % from the field instead of averaging 32.7, he would have averaged 36.

Really hoping LeBron starts shooting his normal % in this game and the finals (Heck...imagine if just for a couple weeks he would shoot the ball like he did in Miami) :eek:
 
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lov3 said:
LeBron secretly averaging a 32-11-10 in the ECF

@ConradKazNBA: LeBron James is averaging 32.7 points, 11.7 rebounds, and 10.0 assists per game in the Conference Finals.
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But lets still discuss how dirty delly is and how injured the hawks are. Fukin media they suck.
 
crabbyshark said:
How does abandoning the team at the low point of the season demonstrate great leadership?
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Because he did what he needed to do to be an effective leader on the court. Sometimes you need to take care of yourself before you can take care of others; recognizing those moments is a valuable leadership skill.
 
Man Called X said:
We are one win away from going to our 2nd NBA Finals and people are still bitching about LBJ's two weeks off in December/January? *I forget which month it was*
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Let's not get carried away here. So far, one dude is.
 
crabbyshark said:
How does abandoning the team at the low point of the season demonstrate great leadership?
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Is your claim that a great leader will always make the best decision possible in every circumstance? And to follow up, how can you possibly know at this point that LeBron's decision to leave the team for two weeks at the middle of the season wasn't the best possible decision he could make? Do you possess some knowledge of the inner workings of the organization that the remainder of us do not that would lead you to conclude that? Because I see a team that has evolved from one where chaos ruled to one where unity does. Did LeBron's decision to leave factor into this transformation? I don't know if anyone can know for certain, least of all some poster on an internet message board.

What I do know is that I don't expect great leaders to be perfect in every detail. I find that a leader's entire body of work carries significantly more weight than does a single instance of perceived weakness or error. I find the most effective leaders to be those who admit they aren't perfect but instead inspire those under them to overcome individual shortcomings by making the group stronger and more united. And in this regard, LeBron passes the test with flying colors. To say he isn't a great leader bastardizes the very nature of the concept.

You, sir, need to stop demanding perfection from your leaders or else you will never be satisfied with anyone or anything.
 
lov3 said:
Windhorst is right though in that he was unfairly chastised for "quitting"
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I disagree. It's a body language thing. In that Celtics game, LeBron looked like he was just going through the motions. He was putting up pretty stats, but he looked checked out and disinterested. Two nights ago, that wasn't the case at all. He was tired, but he looked like he was giving it everything he had. If we had lost two nights ago, I doubt anyone would have blamed LeBron, because his effort was there.

Some things go beyond stats. You can tell when a guy is trying and when he's dogging it.
 
Cratylus said:
Is your claim that a great leader will always make the best decision possible in every circumstance? And to follow up, how can you possibly know at this point that LeBron's decision to leave the team for two weeks at the middle of the season wasn't the best possible decision he could make? Do you possess some knowledge of the inner workings of the organization that the remainder of us do not that would lead you to conclude that? Because I see a team that has evolved from one where chaos ruled to one where unity does. Did LeBron's decision to leave factor into this transformation? I don't know if anyone can know for certain, least of all some poster on an internet message board.

What I do know is that I don't expect great leaders to be perfect in every detail. I find that a leader's entire body of work carries significantly more weight than does a single instance of perceived weakness or error. I find the most effective leaders to be those who admit they aren't perfect but instead inspire those under them to overcome individual shortcomings by making the group stronger and more united. And in this regard, LeBron passes the test with flying colors. To say he isn't a great leader bastardizes the very nature of the concept.

You, sir, need to stop demanding perfection from your leaders or else you will never be satisfied with anyone or anything.
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Leadership involves putting the group above yourself. Posters are asking how we could question LeBron's leadership. He played at least half the season giving minimal effort including a two week vacation when the chips were down.

Look at his stats. He's a better player now than he was before he went to Miami. How are his stats this year significantly worse (even after the break) than the last time he was with the Cavs? Please explain that.

He's out here still giving possessions away, still air balling layups while some of his teammates are playing through actual injuries. It's crazy.
 
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