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An interesting question is whether Lebron can retire as the only NBA player ever in the top 10 for both scoring and assists. That would be an incredible record and a fitting tribute to the kind of player he is. But it won't be easy. Lebron needs 1592 assists to pass the *current* #10 in all time assists, Rod Strickland. But Chris Paul is currently at #15 in all time assists and it seems pretty clear that he will eventually make the top 10. If he does, that will increase the bar for making the top 10 list to passing the current #9 on the list, Andre Miller. Andre is of course still playing but I think he will pack it in soon; if he gets a few hundred more assists before he does that will put his line at about 8600 or 8700 assists, meaning Lebron will need about 2300 more assists to catch him. At 6 assists per game, that is 383 games more to play, or about five and a half 70 game seasons. At 7 assists per game, it is about four and a half seasons.

So it is kind of a 'stretch goal' for Lebron -- if he's still playing full seasons and being effective into the second half of his 30s, he will make it, if not, he won't.

A shame that playoff points and assists aren't counted into these records, they should be.
 
And -- Lebron is already almost in the top five for both scoring and assists in the playoffs (currently 4th in all-time playoff assists, 6th in scoring, will likely move to 4th this year barring some huge injury or something). There is a decent chance that if he goes deep into the playoffs for a few more years he could end up the all-time playoff scoring leader and likely third in playoff assists. (Magic Johnson's record in that area seems basically unbreakable).
 
cavsfever said:
And -- Lebron is already almost in the top five for both scoring and assists in the playoffs (currently 4th in all-time playoff assists, 6th in scoring, will likely move to 4th this year barring some huge injury or something). There is a decent chance that if he goes deep into the playoffs for a few more years he could end up the all-time playoff scoring leader and likely third in playoff assists. (Magic Johnson's record in that area seems basically unbreakable).
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If he goes deep in the playoffs a few more years he will have the playoff career points record by a huge margin. He has averaged 502 pts/year in the playoffs and is less than 1000 points from taking the record from Jordan. Two more trips to the Finals and he will almost certainly have the record, unless his scoring drastically reduces from where it is at now. He's a lock to have the all time playoff scoring record when he retires.

He will easily get to third in playoff assists and
7th in playoff rebounding. 6th in rebounding is likely and he has an outside shot at 4th (ahead of KAJ, Shaq and behind Russell, Wilt, Duncan).

He has a very good shot at being 1st in playoff steals (3-4 more seasons, he needs 91 more to pass Pippen and averages 30 per postseason) and top 20 in blocks as well.

The names on the lists he's going to be in the top 5 of are damn impressive for any one stat. To be ahead of Jordan in points, 3rd to only Magic and Stockton in assists, 1st in steals above Pippen, or sandwiched between legendary big men in rebounds is a great feat for a player. To have all of those spots is incredible. Not to mention top 20 in blocks.
 
Someone liked something inane I said earlier in this thread about the Curry v. Lebron thing and I had some meandering thoughts: Lebron is just a touch more than 3 years older than Steph, but he started his NBA career much earlier. This means no matter what Steph does, he will not touch Lebron's career stats. Right now Lebron has 25,000+ points to Steph's ~9,200, which is more than 2.5x times whatt Steph has. He's also got twice the assists right now (~6400 vs ~2950). Lebron also has more than twice the steals and 4x the rebounds (as one would expect). Steph will beat Lebron in 3 pointers made, 3pt percentage, and free throw percentage, but really no other meaningful stat.

This is basically meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but it just struck me that for all the love Steph is getting, he's not going to put up career numbers like Lebron. Time will tell what the ring count is. If the Warios run off 5 in a row, well, thats a different story.
 
LeBron's impact numbers are quite staggering right now.

ORtg with Bron: 115.3
ORtg w/o Bron: 96.6

+ 18.7 on offense with Bron on court

DRtg with Bron: 99.9
DRtg w/onBron: 110.4

+ 10.5 on defense with Bron on court

In total, Cavs are 29.3 points per 100 possessions BETTER with Bron on court than when he is off court.

With Bron: 115.3 ORtg, 99.9 DRtg for a NET + 15, equivalent to the best team ever ('96 Bulls were a NET +12)

Without Bron: 96.6 ORtg, 110.4 DRtg for a NET - 13.8, equivalent to the a little better than the worst team in NBA history, the 2012 Bobcats (NET -15.2).

Incredible impact.
 
priceFTW said:
LeBron's impact numbers are quite staggering right now.

ORtg with Bron: 115.3
ORtg w/o Bron: 96.6

+ 18.7 on offense with Bron on court

DRtg with Bron: 99.9
DRtg w/onBron: 110.4

+ 10.5 on defense with Bron on court

In total, Cavs are 29.3 points per 100 possessions BETTER with Bron on court than when he is off court.

With Bron: 115.3 ORtg, 99.9 DRtg for a NET + 15, equivalent to the best team ever ('96 Bulls were a NET +12)

Without Bron: 96.6 ORtg, 110.4 DRtg for a NET - 13.8, equivalent to the a little better than the worst team in NBA history, the 2012 Bobcats (NET -15.2).

Incredible impact.
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Incredible is right! Of course part of this is the team being pretty bad without Lebron on the court, a result of our injuries I think. Are there enough observations yet to be able to break out what the team looks like with KLove on the floor but without Lebron, or particularly the pairing of KLove and Delly without Lebron? They have looked very effective out there as well.
 
I loved this part of the last article;

James needs 21 points tonight to pass Reggie Miller (25,279 points) for 18th place on the NBA's all-time scoring list.

James was asked if he had a favorite moment from Miller's storied Hall of Fame career, and he said:

"Uh, no."

OK, then.

I don't have any favorite Reggie Miller moments either, unless it was times he failed.
 
If the Warriors have one or two injuries and their record comes back down to planet earth, and the Cavs challenge them for best record in the league, LeBron has a real shot at MVP. Dude is playing at an amazingly high level on both ends of the floor and he's missing an elite perimeter defender, an all-star point guard, his starting Center(who just so happened to outplay the shit out of Bogut in the finals), not to mention even J.R. and Mo have battled some more "minor" injuries to start the season.

Steph is the MVP as of today, but `1.) LeBron's still the best player in the league and 2.) It's November, once GS comes back to reality, LeBron can easily have an MVP case.
 
buzzdog said:
I loved this part of the last article;

James needs 21 points tonight to pass Reggie Miller (25,279 points) for 18th place on the NBA's all-time scoring list.

James was asked if he had a favorite moment from Miller's storied Hall of Fame career, and he said:

"Uh, no."

OK, then.

I don't have any favorite Reggie Miller moments either, unless it was times he failed.
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I'm no Reggie fan, but his 8 points in 9 seconds thing was amazing. I remember it like it was yesterday. I was watching the game live in my dorn room at UofA. Amazing ending.
 
90s Bball sucked after the first Bulls run. Expansion diltuted the per team talent level and the European imports hadnt started coming in full force to counteract.

Add in Riley essentially trying to use the Bad Boy model with less talent which essentially led to fouling as much possible as the refs cant call a foul every play strategy killed the game compared to it heyday in the late 80s
 
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Yes, late 90s basketball was the worst period for the NBA in my memory. It was stylistically horrible. Even in the early 2000s, although you had some really interesting teams/players emerge (the Lakers dynasty, Alan Iverson at his best, the Dee-troit basketball days of the Pistons dominating through great team defense) game play was still slowed-down, sludgy, too physical, and too much reliance on superstar iso plays+ referee double standards.
 
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