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PedroFlu said:
His basic numbers this season:

20.4 min a game - 4.5 pts - FG% .355 - 3P% .394 - FT% .679 - 1.9 RPG - 2.8 APG - 0.3 ST - 0.9 TO

If we had a decent to good backup PG and he presented these numbers - this would be considered a shitty to horrific season.

So for a NBA backup PG, this is far from being good enough.

For Delly it is actually good and expected, given his skills and lack of experience.

I don't see people bashing the guy. It's not his fault. But he is not good enough for the role he's put in. This makes the roster thin.
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Believe it or not, there are a few backup PGs on Eastern Conference playoff teams alone that provide just as much on offense as Delly, less defense, but cost their teams a lot more money or have cost them a 1st round pick...Hinrich, Sessions now that he is with Washington, Napier, Ennis now that he is with Milwaukee just off the top of my head.

You also completely neglected what Delly is on this team to provide...the ability to defend both guard spots effectively. Let's stop acting like he can't defend individually on this board:

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People also act like Delly is the primary ball handler when he is in the game. The top 11 lineups Delly plays in by total minutes this year have either LeBron or Kyrie (or both) on the court with him:
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He is being used as an off ball shooter and another ball mover, which he is doing very well this year...but people here keep thinking he is out there running the offense by himself.

As for the 2nd part I bolded, simply not true. The main reason people are frowning on Delly this year is because of the low FG%. It is a product of a ridiculously low 2 pt fg% that is not sustainable. Especially when last year, as an undrafted rookie on a worse team, he shot 46.1% from 2 pt range (compared to 30.8% this year). I'm not sure why his 2 pt fg% is down as far as it is, but given what we saw year 1, not hard to think with his improved 3pt % that he can be a high efficiency guard in the future to go along with already being an elite assist to turnover ratio guard and having the ability to defend both guard spots.
 
Just to clarify what I am getting at in that post...Delly is not a bad backup PG because we simply aren't using him as a back up PG...he's a backup guard and has been since Blatt tightened his rotations up once LeBron came back from injury and began staggering LeBron's minutes to where he is almost always out there starting the 2nd and 4th quarters with the bench players.
 
Undefeated for a month with eight All Pros or else Pedro is fuckin outta here, Griffin!
 
We should aim high for our back up pg's by getting Damien Lillard or CP3.

Anything less is unacceptable.
 
sorry but he looks nothing more then an emergency 3rd pg who should be spliting time in canton.
would seriously consider letting him go for bobby brown or another PG,
He is just brutal to watch with extended minutes.
As I say this he makes a good pass on the break, but still we really need to look to see if an upgrade is available.
 
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The thing is people love to say that he would be perfect in 10-15min (myself included see:bargaining stage) in such and such lineups but ignore the fact that you want your bench player to be able to extrapolate performance along with their minutes. Most bench players produce when given the minutes, albeit with a slight dip in efficiency.

But when you give Delly minutes, the only thing that's extrapolated is his obvious limitations. That alone should tell you we need a better player there.
 
Randolphkeys said:
Correct. I'm not worried about it right now, but he will be playing about 20 minutes per game throughout the playoffs. That is a lot of exposure, and it only takes one GM to overpay.
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Really? I was under the impression that only 1st round draft picks were eligible for restricted free agency, not undrafted players.
 
shoes22 said:
Really? I was under the impression that only 1st round draft picks were eligible for restricted free agency, not undrafted players.
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That rule changed after Arenas and Boozer bolted from Golden State and Cleveland, respectively. Chandler Parsons was a RFA for Houston last summer as a 2nd round pick, but Dork Elvis had other designs on the cap space.

Here's the NBA career numbers of Bobby Brown:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownbo02.html

I know Delly didn't look great in this game and the team looked like it needs another point guard to at least back up Delly and limit his minutes when Irving is out, but let's be realistic about the quality of who is available. That is a fringe NBA player at best, hasn't been on an NBA team for four years for a reason.
 
Randolphkeys said:
That rule changed after Arenas and Boozer bolted from Golden State and Cleveland, respectively. Chandler Parsons was a RFA for Houston last summer as a 2nd round pick, but Dork Elvis had other designs on the cap space.

Here's the NBA career numbers of Bobby Brown:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brownbo02.html

I know Delly didn't look great in this game and the team looked like it needs another point guard to at least back up Delly and limit his minutes when Irving is out, but let's be realistic about the quality of who is available. That is a fringe NBA player at best, hasn't been on an NBA team for four years for a reason.
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Yeah, that is true. There's really nothing out there. If Kyrie was out longer (I don't think he is), we'd be forced to look at someone else. Not cut Delly out of the rotation, but definitely limit his playing time.

I don't hate Delly, I know I ride him a lot, and think him playing as many minutes like he had tonight, show cases all his limitations badly. Playing 10-15 like he's supposed it, he's okay to have. Not horrible, not great, just manageable.

I think Kyrie will be back, and no need to cut someone to make room for someone that won't even play.
 
Delly did nothing wrong tonight. If you're gonna blame this loss on him shooting 1-4 despite playing great defense, getting steals when we needed them, getting an offensive board late in the game, and keeping the ball moving, you're crazy.

Find something else to bitch about...
 
Delly just isn't an NBA caliber starter. I think he's fine as backup but man these last two games have really exposed how dependent on Lebron and Irving to create offense. His jumper is too slow to pull off consistently off the PnR, doesn't have the speed to threaten at the rim, and he's not an exceptional passer.

You need a threat at PG and he just isn't one. Not too concerned if we stay healthy but it's pretty obvious why the Cavs were thinking about adding another body at PG.
 
All4One1ForAll said:
Delly did nothing wrong tonight. If you're gonna blame this loss on him shooting 1-4 despite playing great defense, getting steals when we needed them, getting an offensive board late in the game, and keeping the ball moving, you're crazy.

Find something else to bitch about...
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Great defense? Did you miss Beverly abusing him in the 3rd?
 
mps239 said:
Great defense? Did you miss Beverly abusing him in the 3rd?
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He hit some tough 3s. It happens. He still only had 12 points all game so it's pretty weird that you would call that being abused...
 
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